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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:21 PM
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About all those dead microbiologists... Kestrel? Anyone?
Most all of them were working on gene sequencing. I’m looking for the why in all this . Why were they killed?

Likely scenarios:

1. They were working on some black-ops program, making designer microbes which would be used to wipe out half the population of the US. But if they knew what they were doing, then wouldn’t someone have tried to blow the whistle? If they didn’t know, i.e. the whole operation was compartmentalized, then why kill them?

2. They’re being killed so that when Bushco launches Operation “No one left standing” there won’t be anyone with the knowledge base to formulate effective vaccines. This doesn’t sound too plausible either, as you’d have to murder a lot of scientists around the world.

Well, I’m not a microbiologist. So there are factors I’m sure I don’t understand. Anyone have any ideas? What’s being planned?
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:26 PM
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1. try this link
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:47 PM
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5. Ok, but I'm interested in why they're killing them off.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:19 PM
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49. It is safer being a Knight Ridder journalist in Bagdad!
That is a frightening list. I wonder if they are killing off the people who might potentially develop a cure for what they plan to unleash...or who might spill the beans that there is a possible cure (that the elites might have but the rest of us won't.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:26 PM
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2. Oh, oh, now you've done it.
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 06:29 PM by Carolab
I think we're in Alex Jones territory here.

There is a lab in upstate New York that has been engaging in some rather eerie experiments. It is associated with the Manhattan Institute. Has something to do with eugenics. I can't remember the name right now but read some rather strange things about it last year.

On edit: Now I remember. It is associated with James Watson. Called Cold Spring Harbor.

http://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/0403/watson/excerpt.html
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:32 PM
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3. Kick!
:kick:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:44 PM
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4. Shameless kick!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:53 PM
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6. mystery kick -- anyone have a set of master links on this?
as avian flu is being kicked around as reason to "call up the troops," it might be worth a lookie.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:01 PM
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8. Who's benefitting? Because?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:34 PM
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12. at the least: someone fears what these scientists are capable of doing
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 10:36 PM by nashville_brook
another basic fact is that "the government" has no interest in finding answers.

common threads:
DNA sequencing
"harsh environment" microbiology -- astro, arctic
viruses including influenze, ebola, AIDS
patent and consultant work
immune response
Iraqi nuclear physicists
and
free energy (the odd guy out)

the list:

November 6, 2001: Jeffrey Paris Wall, 41, was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property. It had been alleged that Jeffrey Wall had a connection to Biofem.

November 16, 2001: Dr. Don Wiley, 57, disappears during a business trip to Memphis, Tennessee. He had just bought tickets to take his son to Graceland the following day. Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis. His body was later found in the Mississippi River. Wiley was one of the world's leading researchers of deadly viruses, including HIV and the Ebola virus. He was an expert on the immune system's response to viral attacks.

November 21, 2001: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector Dr. Vladimir Pasechnik, 64, succeeded in producing an aerosolized plague microbe that could survive outside the laboratory. He was connected to Britain's spy agency and recently had started his own company. "In the last few weeks of his life he had put his research on anthrax at the disposal of the Government, in the light of the threat from bioterrorism.

November 24, 2001: Three more dead microbiologists: A Swissair flight from Berlin to Zurich crashes during its landing approach; 22 are killed and nine survive. Among those killed are Dr. Yaakov Matzner, 54, dean of the Hebrew University school of medicine; Amiramp Eldor, 59, head of the haematology department at Ichilov Hospital in Tel Aviv and a world-recognized expert in blood clotting; and Avishai Berkman, 50, director of the Tel Aviv public health department and businessman

December 10, 2001: Dead microbiologist: "Dr. Robert Schwartz, 57. Schwartz worked at Virginia's Center for Innovative Technology on DNA sequencing and pathogenic microorganisms.

December 14, 2001: Dead microbiologist: Nguyen Van Set, 44, dies in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia. The lab had just been written up in the journal Nature for its work in genetic manipulation and DNA sequencing. Scientists there had created a virulent form of mousepox. "They realized that if similar genetic manipulation was carried out on smallpox, an unstoppable killer could be unleashed,"

January 2002: Two dead microbiologists: Ivan Glebov and Alexi Brushlinski. Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack and Brushlinski was killed in Moscow. Both were well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.

February 9, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Victor Korshunov, 56. He was the head of the microbiology sub-faculty at the Russian State Medical University and an expert in intestinal bacteria.

February 11, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Dr. Ian Langford, 40. He was one of Europe's leading experts on environmental risk.

February 28, 2002: Two dead microbiologists in San Francisco: While taking delivery of a pizza, Tanya Holzmayer, 46, is shot and killed by a colleague, Guyang Huang, 38, who then apparently shot himself. Holzmayer moved to the US from Russia in 1989. Her research focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine. Holzmayer was focusing on helping create new drugs that interfere with replication of the virus that causes AIDS. One year earlier, Holzmayer obeyed senior management orders to fire Huang.

March 24, 2002: Dead microbiologist: David Wynn-Williams, 55, was an astrobiologist with the Antarctic Astrobiology Project and the NASA Ames Research Center. He was studying the capability of microbes to adapt to environmental extremes, including the bombardment of ultraviolet rays and global warming.

March 25, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Steven Mostow, 63, was known as "Dr. Flu" for his expertise in treating influenza, and expertise on bioterrorism. Mostow was one of the country's leading infectious disease experts.

November 12 2002: Dr. Benito Que, 52, was "an expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School.

June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman, a UC San Diego expert on infectious diseases and, since Sept. 11, 2001 a consultant on bioterrorism. He was 47. Rickman died while on a teaching assignment in Lesotho, a small country bordered on all sides by South Africa. He had complained of a headache, but the cause of death was not immediately known. The physician had been working in Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews, director of the UC San Diego Medical Center's Owen Clinic, teaching African medical personnel about the prevention and treatment of AIDS. Rickman, the incoming president of the Infectious Disease Assn. of California, was a multidisciplinary professor and practitioner with expertise in infectious diseases, internal medicine, epidemiology, microbiology and antibiotic utilization

July 18, 2003: David Kelly, a British biological weapons expert. Kelly was the Ministry of Defence's chief scientific officer and senior adviser to the proliferation and arms control secretariat, and to the Foreign Office's non-proliferation department. The senior adviser on biological weapons to the UN biological weapons inspections teams (Unscom) from 1994 to 1999, he was also, in the opinion of his peers, pre-eminent in his field, not only in this country, but in the world.

November 20, 2003: Scientist Robert Leslie Burghoff, 45 was studying the virus plaguing cruise ships

April 2004: Mohammed Munim al-Izmerly, a distinguished Iraqi chemistry professor dies in American custody from a sudden hit to the back of his head caused by blunt trauma. It was uncertain exactly how he died, but it was discovered that US doctors had made a 20cm incision in his skull.

May 5, 2004: A Russian scientist at a former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia died after an accident with a needle laced with ebola. Scientists and officials said the accident had raised concerns about safety and secrecy at the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology, known as Vector, which in Soviet times specialized in turning deadly viruses into biological weapons. Vector has been a leading recipient of aid in an American programme.

May 14, 2004: Dr. Eugene F. Mallove, a Norwich Free Academy graduate, 56. Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an “open letter” outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of “new energy research.” Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device.

June 22, 2004: Astronomer and physicist, Austrian born Thomas Gold famous over the years for a variety of bold theories that flout conventional wisdom died of heart failure. Gold’s theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. He was Professor Emeritus of Astronomy at Cornell University and was the founder (and for 20 years director) of Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research. He was also involved in air accident investigation.

July 3, 2004: Dr Paul Norman, 52, of Salisbury, Wiltshire, the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence’s laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire.

July 21, 2004: Dr Bassem al-Mudares' mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq. He was a phD chemist and had been tortured before being killed.

July 29, 2004: 67-year-old John Mullen, a nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas. At the time of his death he was doing contract work for Boeing.

August 12, 2004: Professor John Clark, head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep, Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world’s leading animal biotechnology research centres. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame. Prof Clark also founded three spin-out firms from Roslin - PPL Therapeutics, Rosgen and Roslin BioMed.

September 5, 2004: Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani Iraqi was a practising nuclear physicist since 1984.

December 21, 2004: Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher Iraqi nuclear scientist

January 7, 2005: Korean Jeong H. Im, retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri - Columbia and primarily a protein chemist.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:46 PM
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14. Ok...all these individuals couldn't have been involved in black ops,
so what's going on? Why does someone want them dead?

Is it to ensure there will be no one to provide vaccines when they get ready to cull the population? :shrug:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:52 PM
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15. maybe duplicate research that couldn't be controlled
use the researchers long enough to get the gist of their work, replicate it with people beholden to the PTB and erase the originals.

whenever the subject of bio-weapons comes up you have to consider issues of population control, too. the fact that a good percentage of the microbiologists worked in the field of immunity should at the very least raise flags that the PTB don't want cures. an effective weapon can't have a cure.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:01 PM
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17. "PTB don't want cures." I think you're exactly right...
That's what really creeps me out. They're laying the groundwork. I don't think this is too :tinfoilhat:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:04 PM
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18. when asked about how history would view his presidency, Bush said
"we'll all be dead."

odd response. had a ring of wistfulness.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:10 PM
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22. Bush, Guiliani, Jesus and the Manhattan Institute
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 11:12 PM by Carolab
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45c/180.html

{snip}

Downsizing and selecting the subjects for an entire society, Hitler promised to create a New Germany and a new humanity. He originated the term, New World Order that later became President Bush's buzzword. As Mayor Giuliani and Governor Bush have done-to an admittedly much lesser degree due to the fierce opposition they have encountered-the harassment, persecution and elimination of the least fit and those least wanted by society substitutes for costly social programs for the disabled, the hungry, the abandoned and the homeless.

G.W. Bush's father-former CIA chief and President George Bush-brought us the corporate-sponsored Gulf War and its after effect-Gulf War Syndrome which has destroyed the health of hundreds of thousands of American service personnel and their families. Accompanied by the same military and intelligence advisors and with the able assistance of American high-tech industry, the son is poised to bring us a play-at-home version of that fiasco.

Here in NYC we are being exposed to genetically-altered mosquitoes bred in nearby bio-warfare labs, sprayed with a rotating cocktail of organophosphate and pyrethroid nerve gas pesticides originally invented by Nazi chemists and will soon be given the chance to become test subjects for the government's latest experimental live virus vaccines, courtesy of Oravax, a private company directly associated with the U.S. Army bio-warfare lab in Ft. Dietrick Md. http://baltech.org/lederman/spray/>

G.W. Bush and Giuliani are not only friends and fellow Manhattan Institute puppets; they have many political associates in common and often pursue similar policies despite the vast difference in their constituencies. At the same time all of NYC is being subjected to an unprecedented exposure to toxic nerve gas pesticides, Texas is simultaneously being doused with even greater amounts of neuro-toxic chemicals.

http://baltech.org/lederman/spray/ for detailed reports on the spraying in NYC>.

(snip}
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:06 AM
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26. That Vector lab freaks me out!
:scared:

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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:53 AM
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31. I believe there is something fishy going on, most definitely
but Thomas Gold (whose name popped out at me because I'm interested in astronomy) was 84 years old. I take my tinfoil hat off for that one.

However, I remember reading an article in Vanity Fair about microbiologists around the world dying in very mysterious circumstances. So I do not doubt at all that something is, or at least was, very much up.

I just went looking for that Vanity Fair article but apparently it's not online, but as I looked I found an article stating that David Kelly was a biological warfare weapons specialist.

Hmmmmm.

And our suspicions about dead microbiologists are apparently not partisan:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1389513/posts
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:43 PM
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42. Could you give me a time frame
around when that article was in Vanity Fair? I'll have someone in Reference at the public library try to find it for me. Thanks.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:27 PM
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47. fascism goes after the intellectuals among its first victims
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 04:27 PM by melody
So if they wanted a populace that couldn't avail itself of cutting edge scientific discovery and would be stuck in a Biblical "dark age", that might explain the wholesale slaughter over a great range of disciplines.

Looks like the average microbiologist, et al, has a shorter lifespan than a Kennedy.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:55 PM
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7. Probably not related but I still have a funning feeling about
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:50 AM
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30. Brucellosis/bison research is entirely plausible, but I wonder also if
this has something to do with research on Chronic Wasting Disease in deer/elk? Just a hunch, no evidence.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:43 PM
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9. Do you have any links?
I remember the issue even made it to one or two MSM publications but can't find them on the web.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:35 PM
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13. What got me thinking about this again was
re-reading Mike Ruppert's article in his book, "Crossing the Rubicon. p. 509.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:09 PM
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20. Ruppert makes a good case
I'm still reading Crossing the Rubicon for the first time...it's really creeping me out.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:57 PM
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25. can you paraphrase -- i don't have the book
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:49 PM
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50. Here's the link to the article by Ruppert
which comprises most of chapter 29 - Biological Warfare, in "Crossing the Rubicon." Parts of the article, covered elsewhere in the book, are not included in Chapter 29.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_14_02_microbio.html

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:13 PM
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11. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm
Several recent and old headlines come to mind:

1) CDC supressing flu and vaccine data

2) Trying to attach DNA bill to funding VAWA

3) Bush wanting military to handle flu outbreak

3) Model Emergency Health Care Act (untested vaccines mandatory)
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MetalFingersDOOM Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:31 AM
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29. How about the strange smell popping up all over the country...
http://www.sploid.com/news/2005/10/stench_of_ameri.php

About 1,000 workers were evacuated and one hospitalized because of reports of a strange odor at a Warren County business Monday afternoon.

The stench is everywhere, it seems.

Los Angeles, Washington, San Jose, Detroit ... now it has cleared a building in Cincinnati.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:01 PM
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51. page 72 in the PNAC's "Building America's Defenses" paper
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 08:14 PM by hootinholler
Might shed some light. States that a genetically engineered virus to attack specific genotypes could be politically useful.

Another Hmmm.

Edit to link this DU thread.

-Hoot
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:55 PM
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16. Interesting thread ...
Kicked and nominated.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:10 PM
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21. Thanks. I'm not trying to ramp up the hysteria,
which is what those who discussed the Tuleremia issue were accused of doing by some. But I can't think of a plausible, benign reason for all those deaths.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:57 PM
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24. what about pharma corp profits? it's been mentioned a bit that some of
these guys were on to cures that would render big pharma useless in the treatment of certain widespread viruses.

just thought i'd throw that out there -- not very persuasive, imo.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:09 PM
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19. interesting factoid: odd of mortality among such a social group in 30 mos
It does not matter what the individual circumstances of each death are. Probably a couple of these deaths are innocuous. The insurance industry uses scientific tables to accurately predict death rates. Based on the 1997 CSO Mortality Tables, the odds that all of these men could collectively die during a 30 month period is a staggering 14,000,000,000:1

http://gatorpress.com/badsam/page7.html
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:20 PM
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23. an interesting quote, "In the world of espionage, there is a saying...
... Twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action."
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:17 AM
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27. If they spewed out this many deaths, this close together
in a movie plot, we would call this dramatic device cheesy and "unbelievable" or "unlikely to happen in real life."

Here, we have it happening in real life, right in front of our noses, and some think it's "tinfoilish" to discuss the underlying reasons these deaths have occurred.

Freaky.

I apreciate all who have contributed to this thread. The chronology has been given here before, but always got lost in the story of the day. Now it seems these deaths have relevance.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:24 AM
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Ten people dead as mystery virus hits Toronto home
http://reuters.myway.com/article/20051004/2005-10-04T221144Z_01_YUE479794_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-HEALTH-VIRUS-DC.html


By Matthew Chung

TORONTO (Reuters) - Ten people have died from a mystery viral outbreak at a Toronto nursing home and another 40 are in hospital, public health officials said on Tuesday as they raced to contact anyone who visited the home recently.

The outbreak, an unidentified respiratory virus, has sparked memories of the SARS outbreak two years ago that killed 44 people in Canada's largest city.

But health officials said the latest outbreak, which was first detected on September 25, is under control although they warned that more deaths could be expected.

Four new deaths were added to the toll on Tuesday, all of them elderly residents at the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged. All of the dead were aged between 50 years to 95 years.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:24 AM
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28. Ten people dead as mystery virus hits Toronto home
http://reuters.myway.com/article/20051004/2005-10-04T221144Z_01_YUE479794_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-HEALTH-VIRUS-DC.html


By Matthew Chung

TORONTO (Reuters) - Ten people have died from a mystery viral outbreak at a Toronto nursing home and another 40 are in hospital, public health officials said on Tuesday as they raced to contact anyone who visited the home recently.

The outbreak, an unidentified respiratory virus, has sparked memories of the SARS outbreak two years ago that killed 44 people in Canada's largest city.

But health officials said the latest outbreak, which was first detected on September 25, is under control although they warned that more deaths could be expected.

Four new deaths were added to the toll on Tuesday, all of them elderly residents at the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged. All of the dead were aged between 50 years to 95 years.
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AintIgreat Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:56 AM
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32. Kicked and Nominated
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:56 AM
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33. I have always been curious about this list of the so-called dead
microbiologists, but have never seen documentation of the facts. It could be urban myth, for all I know. But if it's true then there is an unsettling situation here.

Possibly somebody wants to make vaccine development difficult? Like you said, either so only some corporations can do it, and make all the money, or maybe so SOMEBODY can use a virus against SOMEBODY ELSE and the SOMEBODY ELSE will have no way to develop vaccines for it??? I get a weird tinfoilhatty feeling here, and don't know if maybe I should just chill.

I am too many years away from school to have any functional grasp of the genetic engineering aspects of this. It was in its infancy when I was in school. And remember, I am a cat vet and not a working microbiologist.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:52 PM
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43. Thanks, Kestrel. I know you're a cat vet as well as
undergrad in microbiology. I was just interested in your take on this. My sense right along was that someone wants to get rid of whatever knowledge base there is in regard to vaccines.

If you look elsewhere on this thread, someone said there was an article in Vanity Fair some while back. That would add more credibility, I guess. I'm going to try to find it. Apparently not online.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:58 AM
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34. This story continues to fascinate me.
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 12:58 AM by ReadTomPaine
Others here have said it already, stranger than fiction. Like some X-Files plot for real.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:55 AM
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36. I think there is a race on
A bio warfare race
to do with killing people according to their ethnicity
each side in this race is killing World renowned microbiologists.
They the scum sucking motherfucking fascist pigs talk about this in PNAC

Just a guess.

I'm not sure about the "sides"
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:25 AM
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40. NEVER FORGET THIS PNAC QUOTE:
...And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.


SIGNED by (among others):
William Kristol
I. Lewis Libby
Paul Wolfowitz

PDF: http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:03 PM
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46. I know
If that doesn't grab your attention not sure what would

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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:59 PM
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48. When you think of it from a PNAC perspective...
it doesn't sound very far-fetched to think they might like to test it out on those pesky Sunnis. God, this is creepy.
:yoiks:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:59 AM
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37. Reading through the info and number of dead Microbiologists is creeping me
out....too many dead in a short period of time to be coincidink....
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:10 AM
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38. in all the time this story has been around, this is the first time
it's lasted this long as a DU thread w/o being challenged. have times changed? are we worried, now?

NPR's "On Point" is doing Avian Flu in the first segment this morning. on right now in my market.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:16 AM
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39. oh, i see this is a 9-11 issue...nice
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:59 PM
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44. Yeah, I just got home and found it's been stuffed in the 911 forum.
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 03:23 PM by truth2power
I guess that means it's too tinfoil for most people. Denial...a wondrous thing.

typo. Nevermind.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:17 PM
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53. it's a problem, ya know.
certainly we don't want to appear to be in need of meds. but if you want to get good discussion and active participation, there's going to have to be a measure of tolerance afforded to, well, discussion.
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nelbert Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:04 PM
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41. There was something like this in the 80s
I remember the stories about the mysterious deaths of scientists allegedly working on star wars projects in the UK during the 80s.

It was in the computer press because a lot of them were computer scientists. At the time I thought it might have been a form industrial sabotage.

This page has lists of both then and now

http://www.miqel.com/text/microbiologist-death-mystery.html



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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:24 PM
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45. Does this mean this thread can't go on the greatest page?
because of being in the 911 forum?
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