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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:21 PM
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Sleep, soldier, sleep.
``Soldiers in a slow-moving convoy kept nodding off at the wheel,'' read one US despatch from Tallil Airfield in southern Iraq. ``Their military vehicles drifted off route, vanishing into a swirling sandstorm until comrades from behind caught up to shake the drivers awake.''
About a week into the second Gulf War, reports from American journalists embedded with advancing forces were replete with detailed accounts of utter exhaustion, of soldiers in heavy combat helmets dozing wedged between ammunition, rucksacks and bottled water amid the roar of trucks and the clatter of weapons.
Even when light rain fell, some turned their faces away and slept on.
http://afr.com/articles/2003/07/02/1056825452903.html

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is searching for ways to create the "metabolically dominant soldier." Among the projects it is pursuing is the creation of a warrior who can fight 24 hours a day, seven days straight. "Eliminating the need for sleep while maintaining the high level of both cognitive and physical performance of the individual will create a fundamental change in war-fighting," says the Defense Sciences Office on its Web site. As usual, DARPA did not comment directly for this report.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A61282-2002Jun16¬Found=true

The Defense Department has spent nearly 70 years trying to find ways to help its military personnel fight off the effects of and the need for sleep. The Defense Advanced Research Project Agency -- the organization responsible for stealth technology and the internet -- may help the Pentagon eliminate its reliance on medication and amphetamines to keep service members awake during combat.
The agency is harnessing Electro-magnetic energy to externally stimulate brain cells in hopes of repelling sleep deprivation effects.
"Eliminating the need for sleep during an operation will create a fundamental change in war fighting and force employment," said Dr. John Carney, director of the agency's Continuous Assisted Performance program. "This program is really out of the box. We want to look at capabilities in nature and leverage it so we can apply it in ways that no one thought possible."
http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/pentagram/8_17/national_news/22999-1.html

The Pentagon has launched a series of remarkable medical experiments to find a way to keep its soldiers and pilots awake and alert for up to five days at a time.
<snip>
The idea now is to identify the genetic material which allows this, and find it in human "junk" DNA - those parts of the human genome which have no so-far identified function. Genetic codes could then be modified to create soldiers who run and run.
But as Dr Stern points out, this raises considerable ethical issues with a permanent genetic change. His own work - "zapping" brains with electro-magnetic energy - does no harm, he insists.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F01%2F05%2Fwpent05.xml

A more recently developed stimulant, modafinil (sold under the name Provigil), was approved by the Federal Drug Administration in 1999 and has been shown to keep people awake and alert for two days straight. More than 250,000 people now use the drug, although it was created mostly for people suffering from narcolepsy, a condition that triggers overwhelming impulses to sleep.
The military has tested modafinil for its usefulness in operations, but Carney says the program is seeking a better drug.
"Most drugs are developed for clinical diseases," he says. "This is not a clinical disease, this is a need. We want to select which effects we want a drug to employ."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/nosleep021218.html

It is fascinating to see that several countries armed forces have studied (and use!) modafinil for military operations. The use of stimulants to keep troops awake and alert is not a new one. In fact, British troops used them during the Falklands conflict and that USAF aircrews took amphetamines during the Libyan air strikes. More recently the French government admitted that its crack Corp, the Foreign Legion, used modafinil during covert operations inside Iraq during the Gulf war.
In fact. Professor Michel Jouvet, an authority on sleep, claimed during an international defense meeting in Paris that, "modafinil could keep an army on its feet and fighting for three days and nights with no major side effects."
Not surprisingly then, we have heard that modafinil is in use in some sections of the Belgian, Dutch and US airforces.
Side effects in 3 years continuous studies of modafinil have been minimal and usually noted as nothing more than headache or nausea, at therapeutic dosages (17,18).
In rare cases there has been hyper-salivation (19) and moderate tachycardia (increased pulse rate- 20), this probably accounts for modafinil's instruction sheet, which states that those suffering from a heart condition must consult their physician before use. However, blood and pulse rates usually remain unchanged at normal therapeutic doses.
http://smart-drugs.net/modafinil-adrafinil.htm

Modafinil / Adrafinil been used for?
US Army, USAF, Special Forces, (as recently as Afghanistan and Iraq) French Foreign Legion, Dutch and Belgian military.
http://www.modafinil-adrafinil.com/

Researchers in Belgium have reported a new study showing a deterioration in sperm quality in young Belgian men since1977........The new finding follows on a report earlier
this year in the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE, that sperm from men in Paris, France has deteriorated in quantity and quality during the past 20 years. .........In the U.S., chemical-industry-sponsored researchers have begun to attack the original study which suggested that sperm density is dropping among men in industrialized countries.
http://www.monitor.net/rachel/r448.html

More recently, concerns have been raised about aggression and violence among soldiers returning from Afghanistan. In three of four cases in which men killed their wives, the accused husbands were in special-forces units based at Fort Bragg, N.C.
"It is quite obvious that someone needs to pose this question in the context of the business at Fort Bragg," says Pike. "This sort of hyper-aggressive behavior is just what one would associate with excessive use of such drugs or from withdrawal from using them."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0809/p01s04-usmi.html

14,000 cases of Modafinil were shipped under a false name while at the same time the French army refused to disclose to its soldiers what they were ingesting (and many refused to do so).
http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du_colloneng.htm

Modafinil is also being tested on those with sleep apnea.
"But this is all very early. No one knows what the longer-term effects of this will be," she said. "The biggest problem is drug interaction effects about which nothing is known."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA011203Stay_awake_pill.html

In "Faster: The Acceleration of Just About Everything" (Vintage, 2000), author James Gleick writes about our changing notion of time. Reached by e-mail, he was dubious about using a drug to lengthen our days. "In a time-obsessed age, this is the Holy Grail," said Gleick. "Cheating sleep is the closest thing we have to cheating death." However, until scientists better understand the phenomenon known as sleep, he was quick to add, "Beware of miracles."
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-041502sleep.story

US soldier dies in sleep in Iraq
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,6941076%255E401,00.html
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:32 PM
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1. Solution to manpower problem?
No sleeping, work a triple shift.

<"Even if the drug is safe, it seems dangerous to mess with your body's sleep needs," Scammell said. "Aside from the obvious effects on brainpower, which modafinil does seem to counter, there is evidence that lack of sleep hurts the endocrine system and the immune system.">

Maybe it hurts mental health too. Maybe if you don't get enough sleep you shoot more civilians "by accident."




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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:35 PM
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3. might have something to do

with panicking. Shooting civilians due to panicking I mean. Between the sleep Sleep deprevation and the amphetamine any trauma already sustained, etc. Seems would explain an inclination to panick.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:33 PM
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5. And speaking of sleep deprivation....
Pentagon dark lord Donald Rumsfeld is shoveling billions of tax dollars into the research furnaces of federal laboratories and private universities across the land in the wide-ranging effort to spawn "super soldiers," fired by drugs and electromagnetic "brain zaps" to fight without ceasing for days on end. The work is being directed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) – yes, the same outfit now laboring under convicted terrorist-conspirator John Poindexter to build the "Total Information Awareness" network that will allow the government to monitor the electronic records and communications of every citizen.
The DARPA "war fighter enhancement" programs--an acceleration of bipartisan biotinkering that's been going on for years--will involve injecting young men and women with hormonal, neurological and genetic concoctions; implanting microchips and electrodes in their bodies to control their internal organs and brain functions; and plying them with drugs that deaden some of their normal human tendencies: the need for sleep, the fear of death, the reluctance to kill their fellow human beings.
http://www.makethemaccountable.com/floyd/030110_MonstersInc.htm

Since HUMANS REQUIRE ONE HOUR OF SLEEP FOR EVERY TWO HOURS OF BEING AWAKE, early symptoms of sleep deprivation are common among almost all of us. They range from irritability and the inability to concentrate to the loss of sense of humour, major mood swings and a reduced immunity to disease and viral infections. As the sleep debt increases, so do the symptoms.
"After that, you've got a whole laundry list of cognitive functioning reductions," Maas said. "You can't remember. You can't do complex things. You reduce your ability to think logically. You can't think critically. You make bad decisions. Your ability to communicate goes down. You become paranoid, irrational and will begin to hallucinate."
SCIENTISTS KNOW THAT AN ANIMAL SUCH AS A HAMSTER OF MOUSE WILL DIE AFTER BEING KEPT AWAKE FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS. IT WOULD TAKE LONGER TO DO IN A HUMAN, but for obvious reasons, this experiment goes unconducted.
http://www.globeandmail.com/series/sleep/

This research was supported by NIH NINDS contract number NS92367.
1 Advanced Brain Monitoring
2 Pacific Sleep Medicine Services, La Jolla
3 Naval Health Research Center, San Diego
4 Veteran’s Affairs Greater Los Angeles Healthcare System
http://www.b-alert.com/press6.htm

It is one thing to do this to the GI Joe, but look at what happens when they try the same stuff on Iraqis, Afghans and whoever else they use to populate Gitmo.

MALINOWKSI: Look, there is a basic point here about torture. It is a wonderful way of getting false concessions out of innocent people. It is a terrible way of getting the truth out of guilty people. And we all want to get the truth out of this guy.
Now I'm glad to hear you say that you would reject this kind of nonsense because that's terrible and it is not what we stand for as a country. Sleep deprivation -- look, no one is against waking somebody up in the middle of the night; no one is against interrogating someone for the whole night. BUT IF YOU DEPRIVE SOMEONE OF SLEEP FOR THREE OR FOUR STRAIGHT NIGTS, LIKE SOME OF THESE GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD DO, THAT IS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS YOU CAN DO TO THE HUMAN BODY.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/04/cf.opinion.torture/

Uncooperative prisoners are being exposed for prolonged periods to tracks by rock group Metallica and music from children's TV programmes Sesame Street and Barney in the hope of making them talk.
<snip>
"In training, they forced me to listen to the Barney "I Love You" song for 45 minutes. I never want to go through that again," one US operative told the magazine.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3042907.stm

I never liked that Barney.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:37 AM
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8. Wasn't WWII the first speed war?
A lot of Germans and Americans were on pep-pills, weren't they? I once met a kid who claimed he was in his 17th day w/o sleep due to methamphetamine use.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:32 PM
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2. What a nice collection of articles

There are a number of issues here, and I haven't gone through all the links in your post. Just curious, but there seems to be a small tempest brewing regarding the Anthrax Vaccinations. Anthrax could have a correlation to this pneumonia stuff. And then there is the use of Amphetamine which I know for a fact is being disseminated to more than the airforce, though I have yet to find any real articles addressing this, but for historical retrospectives and the use of methamphetamine going as far back as WWII.

I placed a number of Anthrax Vaccine related articles in the post on this topic that was in LBN.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 05:56 PM
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4. The US Air Force
appears to be discontinuing amphetamines in favour of modafinil.

I guess that this is why they seem to think that they do not need a bigger force in Iraq.

Also, there seems to be someother stuff they want the grunts to take that will reduce the need for food and - get this - WATER.

Those soldiers will be coming home all right.
Sooner than we think.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:30 PM
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6. shit

I have a friend who's step son is over there. They are calling the stuff "energy pills" What can we do? It just gets more and more rotten.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:57 PM
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7. YABA daba don't
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 02:48 PM by DulceDecorum
yaba
(crazy medicine, pronounced yar bah)

ORIGINALLY MANUFACTURED BY THE NAZIS TO HELP KEEP THEIR TROOPS AWAKE FOR DAYS, Yaba has become increasingly popular in the Far East amongst claims that the drug is now bigger than heroin in Thailand.
Yaba is a derivative of synthetic amphetamines such as speed and can be manufactured far more quickly and easily than traditional forms of amphetamine. The recipe has spread from the Far East by word of mouth and on the Internet (no, don't ask us).
We've experienced some difficulty getting a consistent description of ingredients and effects, with some reports stating that the drug is mostly methamphetamine, running 80% pure with much of the cut being castoff from heroin production
<snip>
Side effects:
The drug is claimed to create an intense hallucinogenic effect and can keep users awake for days on end, although some users have reported that the only visuals come as a result of sleep deprivation after binge sessions.
Health risks:
Addictive and/or habit-forming. Regular use of the drug has been linked to lung and kidney disorders, hallucinations and paranoia. A frequent hallucination is 'speed bugs' or crank bugs' where users believe that bugs are crawling under their skin and go loopy trying to get them out. In Thailand, the number of students entering rehab to deal with yaba addiction has risen by nearly 1,000% in the past two years (source: Observer 17.10.99) Those coming off the drug are also susceptible to severe depression and suicidal urges.
http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/yaba.html

Hmmmm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=155325

During World War II, Hitler wanted to generate a perfect soldier who could fight without rest, twenty-four hours a day. To facilitate this, Nazi chemists created the drug now known as Yaba and distributed it to German troops. As a stimulant, the drug was highly effective, providing Nazi soldiers a distinct endurance advantage during lengthy battles. The additional hallucinogenic effects of Yaba, though unintended, were certainly not an unwelcome property of the drug. As any effective general knows, it never hurts to psychologically position your troops a bit to darker side of the sane/insane continuum. Whether this "positioning" is achieved through chemicals, brainwashing, or religious rhetoric is irrelevant - as long as it can be sustained throughout a soldier's tour (or at least until he freaks out and charges naked, strapped with explosives, into an enemy bunker).
http://www.circling.org/articles/10.99/nazidrugs.html

The so-called Nazi method of making yaba was first noticed in Thailand more than 30 years ago. At the time it was legal and would be sold at petrol stations alongside soft drinks and cigarettes. Long-distance lorry drivers would pop the pills to help them work through the night. Possession and supply of yaba was criminalised in 1970, but the market simply went underground.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Story/0,2763,201044,00.html

Even as terrorism frightens the region, an equally menacing threat looms on the horizon, a danger that has the potential to do more damage than even Islamic militancy. During the past five years, a newly available illicit drug, a methamphetamine and caffeine based stimulant nicknamed yaba (pronounced yar-bah and meaning "crazy drug," "crazy pill," or "crazy medicine" in Thai), has swept through Asia. Yaba, which can be more addictive than heroin and can be eaten, injected, or smoked, has contributed to East Asia's skyrocketing HIV rates and has caused other potentially catastrophic problems.
http://www.moaa.org/todaysofficer/OnlineEdition/Military/yaba_1.asp

Maybe the obedient, ruthless automaton will have to replace the citizen-soldier in order to man the far reaches of the Empire. We can’t have soldiers like Cincinnatus, who dealt with the present danger so he could return to tend his land. No, running the world is a full time job, and we can’t let anachronisms like longing for home, love of peace, and conscience get in the way.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/mckracken2.html

Go figure.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:55 PM
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9. ah the Drug Wars
lock people up at home, create a prison industry from the Drug War. Feed your troops meth and modafinil and send them to their deaths with a smile on their face.
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