ATTEMPTS TO DIVIDE THIS COMMUNITY - WARNING!!!

[Rob Conn]

LIHOP v MIHOP is deceptive. Consciously or unconsciously.

I am responding to the sudden interest in this questionable social construct. This distinction is not only illogical, it also serves to create the perception of difference or contrast where there is none. People do have varying degrees of education and understanding regarding the event and its political and historical context. People also have social dependencies that prevent them from accepting certain conclusions. These hierarchies of awareness would all be really important if it weren't so painfully obvious, with even a cursory review of the outstanding evidence, that the case has been prematurely closed. We can disagree, and should debate everything. And maybe this distinction serves some purpose that has not been well defined. But those of us who question the official story must have some common basis by which we can agree on the necessity for specific action. This forum must result in action.

I think that our common base may be the simple fact that too many questions have been left unanswered. Questions that others are responsible for answering. We mustn't be so consumed with what we think happened that we lose sight of the fact that we must effectively introduce others to this skepticism, and that one of our basic goals should be pressing for further 'official' inquiry. These goals do not require 'plane pods' or varying degrees of skepticism. These goals in fact depend upon our more readily acknowledging what we agree upon. Any unity we can find will be our strongest asset. Don't get caught in the ego traps of 9/11 inquiry. Its not about you or me. Its about all of us inspiring the curiosity of others, and sharing what we know.

So please don't support this distinction unless you plan to defend it. - R.C.

[pauldp]

1. Touche...Thank You...n/t

[Rob Conn]

2. Thanks

By the way, what does n/t mean? Its driving me crazy no knowing. - R.C.

[Kesha]

3. n/t

...just means "no text" ;-)

[Rob Conn]

4. More thanks

Ahhh yess. All has been revealed. Welcome to DU9/11 - R.C.

[Woody Box]

6. Hi Kesha

and welcome to DU! :party:

How is your cellphone? :-)

PS Can't send you a PM yet, can you send me one?

[Woody Box]

5. Well said, Rob n/t

[oblivious]

7. Yes, good point. I've never felt comfortable with this distinction.

[Christophera]

8. The Spectacle Of Agreement & Common Ground

Posted by Rob Conn

We mustn't be so consumed with what we think happened that we lose sight of the fact that we must effectively introduce others to this skepticism, and that one of our basic goals should be pressing for further 'official' inquiry.

Good post and perceptions of function.
The critical aspect here is that what you say below comes before the above if it is to find function.

Posted by Rob Conn

These goals in fact depend upon our more readily acknowledging what we agree upon. Any unity we can find will be our strongest asset.

Agreement is a remarkable spectacle far under represented in America. Being a subject not taught and schools and only addressed by fiction/action films in major media, it has become perceived as necessarily "boring" when attempted by ordinary people. In reality it is the most exciting and powerful thing we can do.

Posted by Rob Conn

But those of us who question the official story must have some common basis by which we can agree on the necessity for specific action.

We do, but disinformation confuses and distracts.

[Old and In the Way]

9. LIHOP is like being 'a little pregnant'................

you're still pregnant.

[Rob Conn]

10. lol...n/t

[staticstopper]

11. Who is your avatar OaItW?

i've seen it around and always wonder.

eom (end of message?)

[MrSammo1]

12. Great point!

>>>People also have social dependencies that prevent them from accepting certain conclusions.<<<

So true!

[Christophera]

14. Dissociation, No Coping Skills For Political/Social Disaster

Lacking developed coping skills for political disaster, people feel helpless and are compelled to forget or dissociate serious events that have dire implications for our futures.

Instilling hope is key for success.

[ScamUSA.Com]

13. good point

HOP is descriptive enough