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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:44 AM
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& what would the punishment be for u.s. officials who did 9-11,allegedly
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 10:54 AM by mopaul
'allegedly'
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:46 AM
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1. Life imprisonment, civil forfeiture...
...and their name becomes a curse word for all time.

As in, "Oh Bush! I dropped my toast!"
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:49 AM
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2. No punishment for republicans...
It doesn't work that way. They are above the law.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:50 AM
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3. Several years at Gitmo, incommunicado, before any proceedings.
"Oh, yeah -- he really Cheneyed up that one."
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:52 AM
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4. Death
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:07 PM
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36. I second Death.
We need to set an example. To show the world and the families of those killed, that this will not be tolerated.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:52 AM
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5. You know, I have had this discussion with my family as well...
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 10:54 AM by bush_is_wacko
Have we EVER put a sitting president and half of an administration behind bars for life? Truly, they deserve the same sort of punishment Saddam Hussein gets. Iraq isn't likely to stop at life imprisonment I would bet, but maybe America can study these criminal minds behind bars for the rest of their natural lives?

Psychiatry as an industry might learn some very interesting information in regards to serial killers and narcissists by studying them. Of course we would likely have to build them their own prison to be able to house them safely from the world they have tried to destroy! Maybe mars could be useful in that endeavor?

On Edit: I mean to protect the world from them NOT them from the world just in case that was confusing!
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:54 AM
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6. As a general rule I oppose capital punishment. But in this instance
guillotines on the White House lawn, complete with Corporate Owned News coverage beamed around the world, seems appropriate. We need to set a precedent regarding crimes against humanity that the elite will remember for a long long time.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 10:55 AM
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7. hundreds of thousands of deaths came from this event
not just the original 3,000
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:05 PM
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35. I'm with you mo...this was a crime against humanity, not just the US
DECEPTION of this magnitude, deception which leads the deaths of thousands upon thousands of human beings, including children, can NOT be allowed to go unpunished.

HOW can we as a nation, as a people, HAVE ANY INTEGRITY WHAT SO EVER--either personally or socially--if we allow this deception to persist and continue? It is our DUTY as citizens to end this deception and bring those who have perpetrated it upon us and the world to justice.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:01 AM
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8. No, not guillotines, gallows
Not even waste a bullet. Public execution by hanging so everyone can watch the piss run-off their knees and toes as their necks snap.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:07 AM
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10. I go back and forth with this. it just seems to "humane" to put them out
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 11:08 AM by bush_is_wacko
of their misery this way you know. Maybe their trained torturers should be allowed to show them what that feels like. I'm sorry I just don't think a quick and virtually painless death by guillotine is enough. The message may be there for those that "witness" it, but it isn't harsh enough for THEM IMO! Sometimes I think the best punishment is just being humiliated in a public venue. they seem to ride so high on their veiw of integrity I just can't really figure out what would be the most painful and humiliating experience for them.

Years of torture isn't really even enough. These people have been the driving force behind the deaths by any means possible of SOOOOOOO many human beings, you know?
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:11 AM
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14. Torture? No.
that makes justice just like them. Send them to their God, for whatever torture He may decide.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:21 AM
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20. we don't torture terrorists, we send them to another nation for that
much the way pontious pilate washed his hands
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:34 AM
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24. Yep, you are right on the mark. I sort of think God has his hands full
discussing the details with the devil right now you know? a little sarcasm there but His wrath is worse than anything a human being could ever imagine. Death and sending them to their maker is, of course, the best option by far!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:01 AM
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9. I thought about this a great deal
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 11:09 AM by MissWaverly
In "The New Pearl Harbor" by David Griffin he talks about "Operation
Northwoods" this was a plan that would justify US intervention in Cuba, "...in this and some of the other plans, although casualty lists would be published in US newspapers to "cause a wave of national indignation" the subterfuge would not result in the actual loss of life. But this was not true of all the plans, such as the plan to "sink a boatload of Cubans." At least one plan, furthermore, would have taken the lives of Americans...Kennedy rejected this plan, even though it was approved by all the joint chiefs." pgs. 102-103 book available thru www.interlinkbooks.com

What we need to do is to set a precedent that this behavior is
unacceptable, anyone who is responsible for 9-11 should be tried in
a world court, since 9-11 killed many who had come to our shores to do their jobs and trusted our country to keep them safe. The saddest thing is that this means that everyone tortured and beaten
and imprison with no trial was innocent, and this is tied to all the
Iraqi deaths as well. It truly needs to be the focus of a world trial.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:07 AM
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11. Just for a start . . .
1. exposing them for what they are
2. making sure that their PNAC plans do not succeed.
3. Life in Prison under very very very difficult conditions. Conditions that would make death seem preferable.
4. Distribution of all of their assets, their family's assets, any and the full assets of any corporations that were complicit with this, including cover up by the msm to the families of 9/11 victims, and to the families of victims of the war in Iraq and to organization whose sole purpose would be to make sure that nothing like this could ever happen again. This would be billions and billions, methinks.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:08 AM
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12. i would prefer life in prison....
and lots of community service. Before dying i would like them to have the opportunity to witness the results of their actions, as well as to meet a new reality.. where they might actually come to understand what faith really is. i would like them to witness humanity...
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:20 AM
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19. they iced timmy mc veigh for only killing 168 people
in a bombing. and little terry nichols gets life for just being in on it, not the actual bombing.

if any crime qualifies for the death penalty, ESPECIALLY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNOR BUSH'S RULES, 9-11 is it.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:29 AM
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21. Timothy McVeigh is in a different universe.....
than these guys. I have sympathy for him...he saw the injustices and rather than use his anger as a force for good, he went the other route, not surprising with military training. These people, of which the cabal is only the front, need to see the error of their ways, and more importantly, expose all corporations involved in the power grabbing business...otherwise the only thing changed would be the logo.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:08 AM
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13. Uh......the Medal Of Freedom...from bush*
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:12 AM
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15. Trial in the Hague first and then life in prison. Also, all
their assets need to be frozen and eventually turned over to the US Treasury to replace the stolen money for war profiteering. Also, corporations like Halliburton need to be put on trial for war profiteering and all their assets garnished and put back in the US Treasury. Since corporations like to think of themselves as persons these days, they can go on trial as people as far as I'm concerned.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:12 AM
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16. I don't think you have to use the word allegedly anymore
I should hope that by this time the vast majority of us
know they made it happen on purpose.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:17 AM
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17. Humanely treated...
... as they tour the country in a bullet-proof glass enclosure mounted on flat bed trailers.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:19 AM
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18. A very close friend was shot 14 times while he stood
with his two young daughters. I wrote to a couple of "disreputable" cousins in the state pen. My understanding is that the killer had an extremely unpleasant time in jail, particularly since Billy (the victim) was also friends with one of my cousins.

I like that approach. A lifetime as someone's bitch.



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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:29 AM
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22. Old-fashioned chain gangs
Forever shackled dragging a ball and endlessly paraded throughout the country for humilation before crowds of citizens.

Whew. Okay, I did get carried away.

:-)
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:32 AM
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23. they obviously DON'T believe in Hell, or they wouldn't have done it
that keeps most believers from becoming murderers.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:46 AM
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25. I said it about Saddam and I'll say it about Bushco
Put them in a cage, travel acoss the country and around the world charging a small fee to view and ridicule them. Pay a little more and you get to slap Saddam with a shoe (soft sole ok) or let's send Bill O'Lielly too coz his lies has contributed more than any other media outlet to the shrub agenda, and you can hit him with a falafel for a buck. Pinch Rummy, give Cheney a noogie (sp) and indian head burn for Abramoff, purple nurple nipple twist for Rove and an atomic wedgie for shrub.

It would make enough money to build back up our surplus plus maybe provide health care for all.

ok the aclu won't like it but really it's quite humane in light of the crimes and an atomic wedgie is not really that violent.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:51 AM
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26. The punishment should fit the crime. And it ain't gonna be pretty. eom
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:38 PM
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29. Yes sir. n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:59 AM
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27. a multi-trillion-dollar windfall
and seizure of ultimate power for decades
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:47 PM
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31. That was their 'reward'. Their punishment should be .....whatever
the punishment for treason is.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:01 PM
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28. Public shaming
Put the bastards in cages, drag their sorry asses around the country and put them on display in every mall in America so the populace can spit and throw rotten vegetable and eggs at them.

Toward this end, please check out the link in my sig line and DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE!

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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:39 PM
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30. Guantanamo Bay
Fitting
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:48 PM
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32. I've been wondering the same thing lately...
...and must admit that I've imagined some rather lurid punishments.

I honestly believe that it was a "CIA-within-the-CIA" type thing. There are just too many signs of it being black ops, which I won't bother detailing here because we've all seen them.

I've avoided so-called conspiracy theories for all of my life until recently. My resistance started to crack when the movie JFK came out. Not because I saw it -- it was a few years later that I actually sat down and watched it -- but because of the loud, long squeals of outrage that came from pundits and critics all over the media. It was obvious at that time, that a nerve had been touched. And that was just a little nudge to my thinking on these matters...

The 9/11 happenings stink to high heaven, and the close ties between the Bushes and the Saudis and bin Ladens should give everyone pause, even Republicans.

I'm not holding my breath.

But back to the topic at hand. I have daydreams where the real truth is exposed, undeniably, for all the world to see and in particular for all U.S. citizens to see. IF it turned out that the truth is as some of us suspect, and IF it were exposed in a way that it could not be denied, I think there would be hell to pay. I don't think the laws of the land would be enough to hold back the rage.

And that is why even the "good guys" (I use the term loosely) will help to suppress the full truth if it comes to that. It's the old "you can't handle the truth" thing, they'd tell themselves they were "protecting" us all from revolution or something.

All I want to know is the unvarnished truth about 9/11. And I know, I just feel it in my bones, there was government complicity in some way, shape or form.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:56 PM
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33. Hanging
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:58 PM
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34. if it were actually proven, and the media were to air it,
things might get VERY ugly here.
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