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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 08:40 PM
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Richard Gage speaks to his largest audience ever
This was in Wellington NZ and it shows the New Zealanders were not fooled by Kim Hill's attempted hatchet job in her on air interview with Gage prior to his speaking engagement.


The Hard Evidence Tour Down Under hit a high note on Saturday afternoon at the Te Papa Museum in Wellington, when over 650 turned up to hear Richard Gage, the spokesperson for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, (AE911Truth), talk about what really happened to World Trade Centre (WTC) 1, 2, and 7 on 9/11. It was the largest crowd the architect and founder of AE911Truth has ever spoken to since he began spreading the truth – what he calls the Blueprint For Truth, about the evidence of 9/11, and revealing the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, not by jet fuel and fires.

Gage, who opted not to show any films, spoke during the entire two-and-a-half hour long, information-packed event. Says Jeremy Morrison, who videoed the highlights, which will be posted on YouTube: “It was a great presentation, even for someone like me who knows a lot of this stuff already. I still got a lot out of it, mainly about the science behind the controlled demolition. It’s come a long way and he covered a lot of ground.” Morrison, who kept a watchful eye on the proceedings on the stage, as well as in the audience, said he was aware of only one person who loudly voiced his disapproval, and the heckler, which Morrison caught on camera, looked emotionally shaken by what he had learnt about 9/11. “Apart from him, the audience loved Richard. There was a really good atmosphere,” offers Morrison.

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As fewer than 300 had been expected to attend, the Wellingtonian 9/11 truth activists involved, had booked the 300-seat Soundings Theatre at Te Papa. It wasn’t until the day of the presentation, did they realise a far larger venue was needed.

By 1pm, an hour before the presentation’s scheduled start, 328 had registered and a multitude more expected to attend, largely owing to the fact that Gage had received good media coverage. As well as a fair and balanced article in the Wellington paper, The Capital Times, he was interviewed by veteran radio interviewer Kim Hill, on the day of the presentation. Although Hill made repeated attempts during their 36 minutes-long exchange, to throw a wet blanket over the flames of truth he was throwing, her efforts were ultimately thwarted by his steely resolve to convey the facts. As one listener put it, it was very obvious as to who was invested in getting to the truth of the matter and who was invested in obfuscation.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/21937


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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 08:46 PM
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1. "the New Zealanders were not fooled"
Care to do a little comparison of the number of people at that event vs. the total population of New Zealand?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 08:58 PM
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2. It's called the snowball effect
And just keep watching to see the little snowball grow to become the avalanche that wipes the smug, self-satisfied looks of the faces of the debunkers.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 09:15 PM
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3. Any day now, dude....
Let us know when the avalanche is coming. I wanna get a snowsuit.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 06:59 AM
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15. It's coming
As soon as enough people get to see the type of blatant lying and ignoring of evidence that NIST investigators engaged in while conducting their supposed research into the causes of the buildings' collapses.

As demonstrated here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg

and here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_ogSbQFbM
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:03 AM
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18. John Gross didn't lie.
John Gross was responding to a specific statement - "pools of molten steel". No one has reported anything of the sort under the Pile.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:19 AM
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19. Dude...
if it was blatant lying and ignoring of evidence, why isn't the engineering community up in arms?
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:44 AM
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20. Question:
How many people is 'enough people'?
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 09:15 PM
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4. in that case, throwing flames of truth might be a bad play on Gage's part
hth,
OTOH
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 09:31 PM
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5. You have no idea what look is on my face.
You're projecting.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:00 PM
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23. More like snowball's chance in hell
Jeez, I am constantly amazed that "truthers" are completely unconcerned that Gage spews easily debunked crap, and that any serious, competent, objective investigation into his claims could not possibly avoid that conclusion. I wouldn't make any bets on his chances of getting that reinvestigation, but if it ever happens, I'll take really short odds on the outcome -- and the future of the "truth movement" after that, btw. Be careful what you wish for; you just might get it.

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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:25 PM
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31. Care to do a comparison of the # of people at the event vs. the capacity of the arena?

Gage probably attracted more people to his event than Kim Shill attracts to her radio broadcasts - even if they can
be picked up all over NZ.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:07 PM
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32. If Hill's audience is so small, why did Gage do the interview? n/t
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:52 PM
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33. Ask him. Maybe to put that arrogant be otch in her ignorant place?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 05:07 PM
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34. Why would it matter if her audience was so small? That sounds petty of Gage. n/t
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 05:13 PM
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35. Gage is quite lonely
Since his wife left him because of his fraudulent ways, and that incident with the young man at WAC. He needs constant supervision, and the spanking he received Ms. Hill from was probably part of his therapy.
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 05:26 PM
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36. I wish she had a larger audience so that more people...

would realize that Bushco lied about 9/11 and that Shills like her are part of the conspiracy to hide and suppress the truth.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:15 PM
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6. She didn't fool Jan Utzon
well I guess it would be kind of hard to fool an architect when you're just a hack radio host, eh?




11/22/2009

Richard Gage, AIA of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, talks to architect Jan Utzon, son of Joern Utzon, the architect of the Sydney Opera House. Like 965+ other professional architects and engineers, Mr Jan Utzon has signed the ae911truth.org petition demanding of Congress an independent investigation into the collapse of the 3 World Trade Center buildings in New York on September 11, 2001.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:26 PM
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7. How much controlled demolition experience does Utzon have?
PS: I'm told the acoustics in the SOH suck.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:33 PM
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8. How much CD experience does Kim Shill have...err Hill?
how much engineering or architectural experience does she have to pretend that she knows more about it than Richard Gage? oh, that's right, she's just a hack radio host...so the answer is zilch.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:36 PM
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9. Brent Blanchard's worked in the industry all his life, documenting CD's.
What's he say about it?
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:54 PM
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11. Brent who?
was he the one interviewing Gage? or involved with this event in anyway? I must have missed that one.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:56 PM
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12. Hmm, you haven't ever heard of Brent Blancherd.
Never ever ever. Never ever.

Hmm.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:10 PM
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22. Here - a real CD expert
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tetedur Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:20 PM
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25. What are your accomplishments in architecture?
Or did the person who told you the acoustics suck ever design an opera house?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article5260041.ece

Mr Utzon began drawing up plans for the Opera House with its iconic sails in 1957. But he quit the project in 1966, seven years before it was finished, after a battle over its cost and his grand vision led to a bitter falling out with the New South Wales government.

He never did see the finished building, which was completed by Government architects who redesigned his interiors so they had no bearing to his original designs. To this day, the Opera House is criticized for the poor acoustics in some of its most important theatres.

The rift between Mr Utzon and Australia was healed, eventually. Although he turned down any invitations to return to Australia, he did, latterly, collaborate at a distance on the most recent plans to alleviate acoustics problems.

In 2003, he was awarded the Pritzker Architecture Prize, the most prestigious in architecture, for the sculptural building that the jury singled out as among the most iconic buildings of the 20th century.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:20 PM
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28. Who's trumpeting the son of the designer of the Sydney Opera House as a big catch?
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 02:35 PM by Bolo Boffin
The person who told me the acoustics sucked in the SOH had just attended an opera there the night before.

ETA: So now the appeal to authority is open to nepotism?
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:38 PM
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29. Pls. stop hijacking this thread

It's about the large size of the audience which Gage attracted and you seem to want to change the subject. Why would that be?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:53 PM
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30. I didn't bring this guy up. Talk to the person that introduced the topic. n/t
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tetedur Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:18 PM
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37. PS.

(Mr. Otzon was) recognized as one of the Twentieth Century's most brilliant architects...

"Amongst other awards during his lifetime are the Sonning Prize for contributing to European culture, and the Order of Australia."

Mr. Otzon is survived by his wife Lis and sons Kim and Jan, with whom he collaborated on a number of projects in Copenhagen.



And the tidbit of snark about the acoustics is relevant how?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:25 PM
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38. Yes, but Mr. Otzon's prizes have nothing to do with his son's ability to understand controlled demos
Why do you imagine that they do?
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:38 PM
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10. I didn't realize we were making arguments from authority.
Because if we are, Gage should shut the fuck up.
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:26 AM
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13. Gee, I wonder how much biased information he recieved
Edited on Mon Nov-23-09 02:33 AM by KDLarsen
:eyes:

ETA: I see Boxboy Gage is heading to Japan next. I wonder, if he'll be able to repeat the trick he pulled the last time he went there, where he actually managed to reduce the number of 9/11 Twoofers! :rofl:
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:02 AM
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14. No, that was Griffin n/t
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:33 AM
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24. Bugger :(
Dunno why I keep confusing Gage & Griffin :/

Oh well, one can hope he repeats Griffins trick ;)
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 12:18 PM
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21. Think she's honest enough to admit she made a fool of herself?

Probably not. After all, she's a TC.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 07:57 AM
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16. ad-populum. Surveys say the emperors nose is 5 inches long with an N over 1 million.
doesn't make it any more accurate.

Gage is a joke. His arguments are laughable at best.
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:15 AM
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17. I disagree
Richard Gage is not a joke. He is a fraud, a huckster. He is a con man, literally selling lies to make his living. He is a picking the pockets of the gullible, a modern day Moses Pray.

I would say the truthers are getting what they deserve, but that would be cruel. Gage has perfected his technique more so than any other TM leader, and he is reaping the benefits. For now. So go ahead, Gage supporters, fill up that collection plate when Pastor Rich passes it around. He's got the world to see.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:24 PM
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26. Fair enough.
I wonder if he is crazy enough to believe his own BS or not. I honestly don't know. But I can see a solid argument that he knows he is lying.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:07 PM
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27. Richard Gage Destroyed Kim Hill
Can't recall where I read it :web: :shrug: but apparently Gage schooled Hill. :radio: :applause: :woohoo:
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:36 AM
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39. Well you have it backwards but someone did get schooled. n/t
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