Have You Ever Read A Birther Thread At Freeperville?

[jberryhill]

I don't know why, but I find birther threads at freeperville to be fascinating.

Using the keyword "birthcertificate" you can pull up pages of threads.

The content is not as interesting as the personal sniping by birthers a other freepers who aren't birthers.

Rimjob used to ban non-birthers, but a few have stuck it out there.

If a non-birther shows up in a birther thread, I get such a kick out of how he/she/it is assailed as an "Obot", "Obama worshipper", etc., as if simply not agreeing with birther theories makes that person a radical leftist.

It's fascinating to watch.

[Neily]

1. What I find odd is...

I always find it amusing that questioning anything means you are racist, biased, etc... I voted for Obama and I do not see anything wrong with questioning anything related to him, or GWB, or Clinton, etc...

Since when did questioning things make you Un-American?

[jberryhill]

2. There comes a point.....

At which one wonders more about why a person cannot understand "Hawaii" as the answer.

Birthers are not driven by some overwhelming impulse to figure out where Barack Obama was born.

Figure - someone who wants to know where he was born will seek an answer to that question, if it was simply about finding an answer to the question. That's not what birthers do.

What birthers do is to invent theories about why the answer is not correct. From legally impossible ones - "he lost US citizenship as a child because he became an Indonesian" (a child cannot lose US citizenship) - to factually incorrect ones - "he couldn't travel to Pakistan in 1981 because there was a travel ban" (there was no such ban).

Those are just two examples, but if you follow birtherism you find out that they have constructed a vast body of "facts" like the ones above, and have a pile of bizarre lore that has accreted around something other than trying to figure out the answer to a dead bang simple question.

What drives birtherism is something other than simply asking a question. There is a conclusion they have reached, and they are not seeking an answer to a question, but bulding up a body of contorted reasoning for the purpose of rejecting an answer.

Yes, there is something deeply unAmerican about someone whose understanding o the Constitution makes them believe a federal court is empowered to remove a president. If one defines what is "American" by the standard of the document which defines "What is the United States", then demanding that a court order removal of the president is certainly unAmerican, and reflects a profound contempt for the separation of powers and Constitutuonal mechanisms.

Do you think that, deep down, birthers are genuinely trying to get an answer to a question?

[ijostl]

3. wow...

...proclaiming fascination by watching the squabbling amongst us lame proletariats, that's about as french-canadian as a drunk mime on welfare. Welcome to hell.

[jberryhill]

4. I was discussing Freepers... Are they "us" to you?

"the squabbling amongst us lame proletariats"

I am confused. I was talking about squabbling among Freepers.

I'd say "Welcome to DU", but it seems you've been here quite some months.

And, I'm not French or Canadian or both, but do I gather correctly that "French-Canadian" is some kind of insult on your planet?