So I am listening the Sibel Edmonds testimony... All about Turkish infiltration of US govt.

[Bonobo]

Dennis Hastert and others are strongly, very strongly implicated by Sibel wrt to accepting gifts, being bribed, extorted, etc. in exchange for votes and other influences.

She goes on to testify that the Turkey govt. was supporting the Mujahadeen for many years (later became Al Quaeda). The US then went on to support the Mujahadeen.

So the relationship here is quite clear, as is the fact that the modus operandi for the Turkish govt. (and other countries I am sure) was to blackmail, coerce, bribe etc our lawmakers into working for them essentially.

So this brings me to my question:

If Al Quaeda was responsible for 9/11, and if the forces behind it were ultimately more closely allied with out lawmakers than would be acceptable, wouldn't you EXPECT a coverup of that fact?

If there was a coverup for that motivation, how MUCH has been covered up and doesn't this IN AND OF ITSELF demand a further investigation EVEN IF IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH "NO PLANES", "THERMITE", or anything else being thrown around in this damned dungeon!!!

Why are we fighting each other when it seems APPARENT that our own government is deep in the weeds in some manner or another?

Can I get ANY agreement on this from the my worthy opponents on this board?

[Bolo Boffin]

1. I submit that you should also read Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower."

Osama's Afghan Arabs during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan were never funded by the U.S. They had their own money, raised by bin Laden in Saudi Arabia.

The Taliban arose in Afghanistan in opposition to the mujaheddin the US funds supported. The Taliban did have Pakistan support, though, so it might be possible that something happened there.

[Bonobo]

2. Thank you for the suggestion. nt

[vincent_vega_lives]

13. That account is also corroborated to some extent

By the then head of the Pakistani ISI. Pakistan supported the most fundamentalist of the mujahadeen, while the CIA supported what later became the Northern Alliance, which was more friendly to western powers.

[BeachBaby]

3. Are you listening to it via radio/TV?

Tapes?

I want to listen to it. Thanks.

[Bonobo]

4. Here is the link.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7374#more-7374

If wrong, just go to bradblog.com and find it.

[BeachBaby]

6. Thanks.

I just posted the link to my Facebook page as well.

[Bonobo]

7. Great!

[Bonobo]

8. I too am a beach baby.

From L.I.

And I posted it on my FB as well.

[BeachBaby]

9. Check your pm in a few mins. n/t.

[Ohio Joe]

5. I have not been able to listen yet

I tried and only got the first maybe... 10 minutes of the first video. As an aside, it absolutely cracked me up watching Sibel try not to crack up because of whoever the guy was that kept objecting. I have no idea if the objections were valid or not but he came across as a wicked asshole and Sibel trying to keep a straight face was priceless.

Anyway... I think it is fairly common that funds the US gives out end up in hands that should not have them. I also think money ends up in the hands of people that use it against our interests happens far to often. A large part of the problem, IMO, is that the government spends/gives such vast amounts of money that proper auditing is not possible. Even worse, I don't think they try anywhere near as hard as they should to see that these funds are properly audited. There are a lot of reasons for this... none of them good... some down right criminal.

Bottom line. I think ALL allegations of official misconduct by whistle blowers should be investigated completely.

[OnTheOtherHand]

10. the transcript is handy

BradBlog PDF here.

[Ohio Joe]

11. ahhhh, Thank you - nt

[wildbilln864]

14. You're exactly right!

If they won't tell us exactly where all the money goes then cut them off!

[PufPuf23]

12. Just finished reading the transcript

Half yesterday and the second half today.

The media silence is deafening.

One hopes that the testimony can be verified by other witnesses and the wounds cleaned.

Turkey is a critical geo-political ally.

Campaign finance and lobbying reform is critical.

[defendandprotect]

17. I'm only a bit more than half way thru it . . . we really needed someone to give a recap . . .

I think the fact that there was so much reading to do has held it up and limited

response at DU --

[defendandprotect]

15. US/CIA is chin-deep in creating all of this "terrorism" . . . beginning with

Taliban/Al Qaeda which they financed/created via ISI-Pakistan --

They used these religious fanatics as elites have always used them --
we set up the whole Russia/Afghanistan thing --
We were financing Taliban/Al Qaeda with hundreds of millions of dollars -- tens
of millions right up to 9/11.

WE were the ones creating religious fanatics -- printing religious text books with outrageously
fanatical ideas and shipping them in.

I can only imagine that the first attack on the WTC in '93 -- and Oklahama City were all part
of the same insanity -- the "terrorists" did it!!!

Yep -- the right wing terrorists in control of our government!



PS . . . AND I FORGOT TO GET TO THE POINT . . . that, who knows, but possibly these
Congress people were being used to further that cause -- and therefore they didn't want
them exposed?

Also, note the use of blackmail -- info on family -- wiretapping -- sexual issues -- financial --
Nixon was doing the same thing -- way back then!

[Why Syzygy]

16. If the People don't do it.

It will never get done. And we will continue to live in this democro-fascism. Our grandchildren will never know the liberty of the Republic.