Nobody seems to notice and nobody seems to care

[Twist_U_Up]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_kasBlnLY&feature=related

First Time I Heard 9/11 Family Member Bob McIlvaine Speak

[seemslikeadream]

1. Thank you very much

I've seen this before, it is a must see. We are one.


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

[HamdenRice]

18. Everytime you post that picture, it gives me vertigo cause it's an impossible perspective

I keep trying to figure out from what perspective that picture could be drawn, and frankly there is no place in Manhattan that one could have seen the attacks from that perspective.

Because of the building in the foreground and perspective, it looks like Broadway, around City Hall, looking southwest. But that can't be because the second attack was on the south tower. So this has to be from the south looking northeast. But the south tower was hit from the south, at an angle, emerging from the eastern side, and this drawing has it being hit from the east.

I realize it's just a cartoon, but if you know the area, it always just throws me into this brain freeze.

Ctrl-Alt-Delete.

Ok, I'm better now.

[seemslikeadream]

19. Here this will make you feel better

[Flatulo]

2. Very moving. I can't imagine what these parents have gone through.

I think he speaks to a bigger truth than most 'Truthers' do; he is talking about the history of American imperialism going back to the Cold War days. How many enemies have we made in the world? Millions? Hundreds of millions?

[seemslikeadream]

3. You do know who Bob McIlvaine is aligning himself with don't you?

"On or around the beginning of October 2004, 4 audio tapes were released. They were a partial release of the 9/11 Omission hearings that took place on September 9th, 2004 in New York City. Chaired by then Former Representative Cynthia McKinney, and people like Dr. Faiz Khan, Paul Thompson, and a man sitting here tonight that I both admire, and respect, Bob McIlvaine. Those recordings was the first time I was exposed to a 9/11 Family member crying. That family member was Bob McIlvaine. Bob will be the first to tell you that when he talks about his son Bobby, he can't help but to cry. I felt such anger from that. I knew from Bob's tears that what I was doing was right, and I had to continue. Ever since then, whenever Bob McIlvaine speaks, I listen. This past November, I got to spend 4 hours in the car with Bob, and it was a very pleasant, and educational experience. Thank you Bob for being here tonight, and for your amazing determination."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_kasBlnLY&feature=related



Bob McIlvaine wants the bigger truth of 9/11 just like some of us do here


Have you seen all 25 videos?
The 9/11 Commission Report One Year Later - Part 1/25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_d-AIseBPI

[seemslikeadream]

4. Here's more of Bob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjBXX5edHTw&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErHfTQAvDnw
Father of 9/11 victim Bobby McIlvain talks to Jon Gold of 911blogger.com about the 9/11 commission and how he has come to the conclusion that the US government orchestrated 9/11.

[Flatulo]

5. I can't say that I agree with his conclusions, but I do empathize with

his suffering.

I am the father of a wonderful young man and cannot imagine such a burden to bear.

[seemslikeadream]

6. and wouldn't you agree that you might feel differently if your son had died

in the tower and you were not given the truth about what had happened?

[Flatulo]

7. I can't imagine how I'd feel. Bitter, angry, vengeful. But isn't

it also possible that some people might take advantage of those emotions to push an agenda? I have seen enough intellectual dishonesty and outright lying from the Truth movement to convince me that many are no better than the government liars who they so detest.

I don't believe we will ever know the entire truth of 9/11. For the victims' families there will never be closure.

[mhatrw]

8. And whose fault is that?

Nobody's right? Just like nobody was at fault for anything concerning the lead up to or the events of 9/11.

[Flatulo]

10. It's the fault of the persons who perpetrated or willfully allowed the act.

Now we know that the government had the necessary warnings and bits and pieces of information to put the plot together if things had happened differently.

What I believe we will never know for certain is whether the failures to act properly were due to institutional incompetency or willful intent, and how far up the chaain of command the fault lies.

I believe that there is good case for, at the very least, criminal negligence, but beyond that, I don't think there's evidence of criminal intent that would meet the standards of a court of law.

If there is, lets see it.

[mhatrw]

13. Exactly. It's all Osama's fault and we will never know. n/t

[Flatulo]

14. That's not what I said.

[greyl]

15. Taking cues from Bill O'Reilly, mhatrw? nt

[noise]

16. It would take 24 hours for the government to give the

victims' families and the rest of the country some answers. George Tenet knows what went down on 9/11.

So the reason we don't know the truth about 9/11 is because officials like Tenet hide behind a mask of patriotism, national security and the like. We have the same officials involved in the suspicious pre-9/11 conduct, the post 9/11 exploitation of the attacks for reasons of political/economic agendas and the post 9/11 coverup.

[Flatulo]

17. Yeah, I would agree that 'slam dunk' hasn't been forthright.

I still can't believe that blowhard got the Medal of Freedom...

[Falcon_Lights1916]

12. I Think All Many 9/11 Families Want...

Is an honest, open investigation into what really happened that day. Neither Bush nor Giuliani wanted an investigation--the government only capitulated because of pressure, especially that from 9/11 Families. You can believe that Bush kept a tight leash on the Keane Commission thus ensuring that only the OTC theory would be upheld. If the government is truly innocent, it should welcome a new investigation, one that will clear its name.

I think that people in the 9/11 Truth Movement have learned that the government cannot be trusted to tell its citizens the truth about ANYTHING, or if it does, it is years later. Personally I haven't trusted the government to tell the truth about anything since 1971 (I know that dates me--lol).

My heart goes out to Bob McIlvaine--I can't even begin to imagine what he is going through. Not only has he lost his son, but he lost him in the horror that was 9/11.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

9. Tough to watch, but everybody should see this -- thanks for posting.

[balantz]

11. Thanks for that.

Anyone who attempts to keep the truth from the light of day holds the hands of the evil perpetrators.

[Bassman66]

20. How can anyone not want a proper investigation

of 9/11 without the Whitehouse obstruction in the last one?