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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:35 PM
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Suspecting a 9/11 Media Hoax
Knowing that the story of "hijackers with boxcutters" came from the President's lawyer, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the eyewitness interviewed on Bryant Gumbel was ANOTHER one of the president's lawyers, who also just happens to manage the Bush family fortune, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that there were embedded military PSYOP operatives working at the CNN newsroom in 2000, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that plans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan had already been drawn up before 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that PUBLISHED military research advocates planting fake videos in television news in order to gain public support for a war, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that airplanes cannot fly through concrete and steel buildings as if those buildings offer no resistance at all, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the Bush adminstration has lied about everything else in order to justify a war, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that gag orders have been placed on the FBI investigators, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the president declares "we will never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the only evidence of plane crashes at the Pentagon and Shanksville is FAKE, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that Operation Northwoods advocated fake plane crashes you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that giant skyscrapers disintegrated, and the only file cabinet found was melted into a basketball-sized glob, yet the newspapers report finding rows of passengers strapped to their seats, and finding the cockpit intact along with someone not wearing a pilots uniform, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the "black boxes" were never officially recovered from gorund zero, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that they lied and said the air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing about Mockingbird and COINTELPRO, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that terrorists would not leave cars full of "Arabic How-To-Fly Manuals" and put their last wills and testements into their checked baggage which mysteriously doesn't make it onto the plane, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the terror-alert level goes up when the president's support goes down, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the bin Laden family was escorted out of the USA right after 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that Osama bin Laden, who ever he is, can't both be a tall skinny religious guy on dialysis who denies orchestrating 9/11 AND SIMULTANEOUSLY be a fat guy who wears gold jewelery and takes credit for 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that the published passenger manifests for the airplanes, and the flight 77 autopsy lists contain no Arab names, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that two airplanes supposedly used in the attacks were not scheduled to fly on 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Knowing that one of the eyewitnesses to "flight 11" was none other than a CNN bigwig who said "it was definitely a 767 airliner", you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

Finally, knowing that the mass media ridicule every aspect of 9/11 Truth, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.


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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:41 PM
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1. Knowing that the compliler of this list burned down a bunny cage --
Priceless.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:46 PM
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2. Ha ha, you got me, didn't you?
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 09:45 PM by spooked911
Actually, I didn't write that. Someone posted it on my blog, but I thought it was very good.

Anyway, what exact points are you refuting on my post?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:05 PM
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3. none as usual sppoked....
he's just trying to distract.
:hi:


Excellent post by the way! keep up the good work.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:45 PM
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4. Thanks, and howdy to you too!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:01 AM
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5. So many people just can't let that evil-Arab thing go.
That's what all this baloney is stuffed with. The US has some scary pathologies.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:27 AM
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9. Racism against Arabs is what made the 9-11 myth possible
same with iraq...and ignorance....and apathy....
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:36 AM
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6. Kind of a bogus list.
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 01:42 AM by G Hawes
Knowing that the story of "hijackers with boxcutters" came from the President's lawyer, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- there were reports from passengers about knives, bombs (whether fake or real), violence (slashing and stabbing)

Knowing that the eyewitness interviewed on Bryant Gumbel was ANOTHER one of the president's lawyers, who also just happens to manage the Bush family fortune, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- there were hundreds, if not thousands, of other witnesses besides this one

Knowing that there were embedded military PSYOP operatives working at the CNN newsroom in 2000, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- so what? and there are lots of other newsrooms besides CNN

Knowing that plans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan had already been drawn up before 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- so what? how does that equate to a "media hoax"?

Knowing that PUBLISHED military research advocates planting fake videos in television news in order to gain public support for a war, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- so, they got to ALL of the media outlets in the world, did they?

Knowing that airplanes cannot fly through concrete and steel buildings as if those buildings offer no resistance at all, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- airplanes did NOT fly through concrete and steel buildings without resistance, though

Knowing that the Bush adminstration has lied about everything else in order to justify a war, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- this one, i agree with, except that it has nothing to do with a "media hoax"

Knowing that gag orders have been placed on the FBI investigators, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- FBI investigators aren't generally in the business of spouting off everything they know or blabbing to the media about their work, and how would this equate to a "media hoax" anyway?

Knowing that the president declares "we will never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- and he somehow controls the world press? i don't think so

Knowing that the only evidence of plane crashes at the Pentagon and Shanksville is FAKE, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- the evidence is not fake, though

Knowing that Operation Northwoods advocated fake plane crashes you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- operations northwoods was never carried out and it has nothing at all to do with 9/11

Knowing that giant skyscrapers disintegrated, and the only file cabinet found was melted into a basketball-sized glob, yet the newspapers report finding rows of passengers strapped to their seats, and finding the cockpit intact along with someone not wearing a pilots uniform, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- the towers did not disintegrate and there were lots of items found in the rubble, and none of this would equate to a "media hoax"

Knowing that the "black boxes" were never officially recovered from gorund zero, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- so what? how does this equate to a "media hoax"?

Knowing that they lied and said the air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- it was the media that reported that in fact the air was not safe to breathe

Knowing about Mockingbird and COINTELPRO, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- again, how does this equate to a "media hoax"?

Knowing that terrorists would not leave cars full of "Arabic How-To-Fly Manuals" and put their last wills and testements into their checked baggage which mysteriously doesn't make it onto the plane, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- how can anyone "know" what terrorists would or would not do? this does not support the "media hoax" suggestion

Knowing that the terror-alert level goes up when the president's support goes down, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- the terror alert level hasn't gone up for quite some time even though bush's support level has absolutely tanked

Knowing that the bin Laden family was escorted out of the USA right after 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- it was the media who reported on the bin ladens leaving the country

Knowing that Osama bin Laden, who ever he is, can't both be a tall skinny religious guy on dialysis who denies orchestrating 9/11 AND SIMULTANEOUSLY be a fat guy who wears gold jewelery and takes credit for 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- the "fat bin laden" story is a myth as is the gold jewelry thing, and again has nothing to with a "media hoax"

Knowing that the published passenger manifests for the airplanes, and the flight 77 autopsy lists contain no Arab names, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- the manifests did contain the arabic names, and the autopsy lists didn't for good reason

Knowing that two airplanes supposedly used in the attacks were not scheduled to fly on 9/11, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- another myth, the flights were scheduled to fly that day and did in fact fly that day

Knowing that one of the eyewitnesses to "flight 11" was none other than a CNN bigwig who said "it was definitely a 767 airliner", you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

- so what? there were hundreds, if not thousands, of witnesses so it's not surprising that some of them would be "bigwigs" of some sort

Finally, knowing that the mass media ridicule every aspect of 9/11 Truth, you should suspect a 9/11 media hoax.

-- maybe they ridicule only the ridiculous

edited to give it some formatting
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:04 AM
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7. I was going to post that link,
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 03:31 AM by mirandapriestly
but I didn't want to deal with the "illusion of progressive opposition" we see above.
I would also recommend the "As It Happened" Videos. They are on Youtube, but you can get the complete CNN version on CNN pipeline. You can get a free pass for two weeks then they charge a couple dollars a month if you don't cancel. The quality is a lot better.
you can see for yourself that:
the planes look fake. It doesn't matter if more convincing , (but still bad) ones show up later, the ones that were shown THAT DAY look fake. Slow it down, zoom in. They are fake. I found one with no plane and posted it, but the video was removed right after that so hopefully I will find the footage on CNN. The guy who removed it from Youtube won't answer my email asking why he removed it, oh well.
The witnesses who were right there did not see a plane, and are surprised to hear there is one, including two reporters. One later says he was on the wrong side to see it but c'mon, you would know. The other insists that it is not conclusive that there was a plane , many were saying it was a missile, and they cut him off -Dick Oliver. In several cases they try to trick them into saying what they saw. The people who saw planes are people connected to CNN or suspicious in some other way. One who said she saw a plane, said she saw it AFTER she heard the explosion, and she also said that she worked in WFC 1 and that the first hit was in wtc2 after a pause because she really didn't see anything.
If you watch a lot of the footage, it will become apparent that it was a planned fake.
you can see the camera equipment in some of the shots. I saw some of the footage and it is Wescam which is very sophisticated (military) equipment yet never do you see any closeup or details of the "planes" - or buildings. this is ridiculous considering they had such expensive equipment. On CNN the camera will start shaking and rumbling, then they will quickly cut it off or refocus. I bet FEMA was somehow involved with the media for their "drills" - but considering how bad CNN & others are all the time (fake Osama tapes, etc..), they are probably just pure government propaganda.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:42 AM
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10. Miranda, as long as you keep pushing this no-plane nonsense
you cannot be taken seriously as a discussion participant.

It really is that simple. The no-plane hypothesis invalidates anything else you have to say. Planes flew into those buildings.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:57 AM
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11. Prove it
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 04:06 AM by mirandapriestly
and I'm saying the plane footage is faked, I'm not saying "no planes".
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:08 AM
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12. What in the hell??
You think that the plane footage was faked, all of it...

...but you think planes hit the building?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:12 PM
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17. Bolo, I wouldn't talk if I were you!
Your credibility is no higher than anyone else's here! How's that blog going? Readership up?
It's really that simple!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 05:35 PM
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18. If the transmission of the events of that day depended on my readership...
You might have something.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:13 PM
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15. WESCAM - Electronic News Gathering
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 08:20 PM by Make7
mirandapriestly wrote:
If you watch a lot of the footage, it will become apparent that it was a planned fake.
you can see the camera equipment in some of the shots. I saw some of the footage and it is Wescam which is very sophisticated (military) equipment yet never do you see any closeup or details of the "planes" - or buildings. this is ridiculous considering they had such expensive equipment.

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piobair Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:27 PM
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19. Sorry but
I'll take the majority, no not all, but a majority of the eye witnesses who said a plane hit the towers and the evidence of actual plane parts found in surrounding streets over your perception that the videos "just don't look right". In order to move forward with a real investigation I think you have to at least stipulate the most obvious elemants of the attack. I've yet to hear any reasonable explanation as to why a convoluted series of actions makes more sense than just flying the planes into the buildings.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:24 AM
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8. Excellent list, Spooked.
It's taken a long time, but I have realized that the media was and is involved. It was just too hard to fathom, at first, even though I knew it didn't seem right for very good reasons, I couldn't believe it, I still have a hard time believing it, yet I know it. That is the effect of being basically brainwashed by imagery 24-7. That sounds corny, but that is what it is. I didn't take anyone's word for it and I thought people who went the full 9 yards with 911 fakeness were disinformationists, so I found out for myself, and I looked and evaluated the material on my own, and eventually realized it. People who watch a lot of tv are going to have a harder time.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:06 AM
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13. one minor point:
If it is a hoax (which it probably is) it is done by the interests to whom the media are an instrument: the
media owners and their buddies.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:02 PM
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14. you mean as opposed to individuals
on the various stations?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:19 AM
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16. as opposed to "the media"
The buck doesn't stop at "the media"- it stops at the owners of the media and their cronies; the same interests that staff the executive branch of the government; the actual rulers.
Not that this is supposed to be particularly insightful, just pointing out the obvious, i think.
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