Throw Away the Term "LIHOP", If You're Smart.

[Bonobo]

The term "LIHOP" has become a conversation stopper. It turns people's brains off immediately upon hearing it, so it should be tossed.

No, I have no alternative at this point, but it's clear that it doesn't work. Even people on this board are overwhelmingly put off by it.

It does no good, does nothing to spread the truth, so toss it and try again, if you want, to reach people.

Otherwise you're just masturbating monkeys.

[Sinti]

1. How about FFO - False Flag Operation

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own.

(snip)

Terrorist attacks may sometimes be in fact false flag operations, as in the Italian strategy of tension in which several bombings in the 1970s, attributed to far-left organizations, were in fact carried out by far-right organizations cooperating with the Italian secret services (see Operation Gladio). Elsewhere in Europe, the Mouvement d'Action et Défense Masada, supposedly a Zionist group, was really a neo-fascist terrorist group which hoped to increase tension between Arabs and Jews in France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

[pauldp]

2. Why not just use the phrase "They intentionally allowed 911" ?

I agree with you, although I think tossing it without an alternative will not work.
That's like telling someone to sit in a corner and NOT think about a pink elephant.

[Nozebro]

7. Do you have any proof? Can you make an argument for what you say?

"They intentionally allowed 911"

What exactly are you trying to say, and why should anyone take it seriously (I know, I know - you don't "care" if they do, but pretend like you DO care)?

WHO intentionally allowed WHAT to happen and how do you know it?

[pauldp]

8. Hold on there. Let me clarify.

I was talking about the term LIHOP and the perception of the term.
I was agreeing with the OP that the term probably turns people off.
In the past couple of days it looks like LIHOP is gaining
some mainstream visibility. While I think "Let it Happen" is rather naive,
and possibly a fall back position to mitigate the public response to the inside job reality,
if it lands the fuckers in prison I'll take it for now. Kinda like Al Capone being locked up for tax evasion.

Personally I think it was MIHOP but I think we need a better term for that
as well. I think "inside job" is pretty good unless we can come up with a better one.

[Nozebro]

10. WHO "intentionally allowed" WHAT? EOM

nt

[pauldp]

11. these threads discuss it.

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2309490&mesg_id=2309490
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2302369

[Nozebro]

13. I was hoping you might know the answer, since you brought it up.

nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. Inside Job

is what it should be called.

[mirandapriestly]

9. yeah, that includes everyone (except OCTS).eom

[rman]

4. Why do you think it turns off people's brains?

[Bonobo]

5. I think that's just what happens in any language.

It is not uncommon for perfectly good words to become so tainted by the prevalent atmosphere and cultural baggaage concerning a particular term that they can no longer be used in conversation. Examples that quickly come to mind are usually those that are culturally sensitive. example, squaw, negro, homo, zionist, the list is endless.

Same kinda thing here.

[rman]

6. AITH = Allowed It To Happen

"...why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"
-- Sen. Leahy
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/29/150254

[dailykoff]

12. Let's call it genocide,

because that's what it was and that's what it's enabling. "Mass murder" and "extermination" also come to mind.

LIHOP is the get-out-of-jail-free card they've been waving for the last five years and it's a disgusting lie. The sooner we face it the better.

[mirandapriestly]

14. Yes, because if "let it happen" is the charge, then

how do you determine between "incompetence" and intentional.

[dailykoff]

15. Exactly.

LIHOP is at best a euphemism and I understand why someone in Leahy's position would use it but I heard that interview last week and I'm pretty sure he knows the real score.

[Chomp]

16. Genocide?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) Article 2 (defines genocide) as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."




Could you identify the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group" in your version of events?

Whatever.

[file83]

17. I'm sure you speak for everyone, right?

:eyes:

[Bonobo]

18. Do you get paid per post? Cause that was worthless...

[file83]

19. And your opinion is just SO important.

:rofl: