New Video? -- Atta/Jarrah from Jan 18, 2000

[RedSock]

The Sunday Times reports it has received a previously unseen video of Mohammed Atta and Zaid Jarrah. From the second link below:

Atta and Jarrah have never been pictured together before. Indeed, a key element of their tradecraft was that they steered clear of each other.

The silent video is about an hour long and its timecode stamp is January 18, 2000. A US source said lip-readers failed to decipher what is being said.


Short wire story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6116857,00.html

Long story and possible (?) link to video (no video link right now)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2382788,00.html



EDIT: I wonder which Jarrah is on this video?

[loop]

1. torrents

Osama bin Laden and his flying Circus 2000 January Part 1-5

torrents:
http://bitreactor.to/details_185849.htm
http://bitreactor.to/details_185852.htm
http://bitreactor.to/details_185853.htm
http://bitreactor.to/details_185854.htm
http://bitreactor.to/details_185856.htm

[Sinti]

8. Thanks for the torrent links, loop. And welcome to DU!

I'm hoping they're legal :toast:

[loop]

11. Part 3 fixed

fixed Part 3:
http://bitreactor.to/details_186377.htm

I uploaded a wrong Part 3 (it was actual Part 1 again), now it is fixed.

[seatnineb]

2. Here is a foto.

[RedSock]

3. 6:31 video at Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ghgCXFsnI

[kerry_s]

5. Atta?

Is that man the same as in this famous photo:

[mirandapriestly]

7. A different Jarrah's photo was in the "flight 93 wreckage"

so something is fake here.

[mirandapriestly]

4. So that's the different Jarrah

He is supposed to be Lebanese? I don't think so. It looks like they are practicing a script, they are pretending to be doing something.

[mirandapriestly]

6. This is the "real" Jarrah

It could be him, I was thinking of the other, who it is not

[mirandapriestly]

9. Thread with Kevin's research on Jarrah photos

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x86163

[Sinti]

10. Why do they say this was taken in Afghanistan, and seem to make

that assumption based on the fact that there's some random Usama video attached to the end of it? I must be missing something. Convenient how new video tends to just show up every election cycle, isn't it?

[seatnineb]

12. Original soundtrack to Atta video....

Assalam Ailukum .......

My Name is Atta.....this is brother Jarrah....we are both in hiding from the U.S secret services...help us.


The father of Mohammed Atta, the alleged ringleader of the September 11 attacks, said in an interview published yesterday that his son was still alive.
"He is hiding in a secret place so as not to be murdered by the US secret services," Mohammed el-Amir Atta, 66, told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag.
www.guardian.co.uk/septem...41,00.html

[mogster]

13. See also this thread in GD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2277310

[loop]

14. Video from an undercover agent

In the first video there is a freeze-frame but it shows not face, but a shoulder.

If the freeze-frames were inserted in post-production, so I ask myself, what this one should be good for.

as Sahab or al Sahab makes all the other videos for al Kaida and never ever used freeze-frames or time-stamps which are hardcoded in the video.

I say, this video is made by an undercover agent from Britain or elsewhere to film and identify the members of this terror-camp.

This agent focuses on some faces and then he shoots a foto with his video-cam.

The foto of the shoulder is just failed because the object is moving too fast.
All fotographers know this effect.


But when the filmer is an agent then there is a huge problem:
Mohammed Atta and Ziad Jarrah are totally relaxed just in front of this agent, so they don't know that he is an agent.

It is possible that this agent is giving the patsies some tipps and influenced them to do what has happend on 911.

Here in germany we have a right-wing party called NPD and this party was heavily infiltrated by the Verfassungsschutz, the national security agency.

This is fact and proven in court.

So if this can happen than that can also happen.

Do you agree?

[mirandapriestly]

15. Thanks for the information

I didn't tknow that about photography.