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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:47 PM
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Dear President Hugo Chavez.
A lot of people in America, know that you are a good man getting attacked by the US government. Even though, our leaders of both parties, attack you, we know the truth. You an honest decent man, a good Christian who wants to help the poor in your country! We applaud you! We know how dangerous that is. I for one found the book, "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins very informative. Since Noam Chomsky's book has shot up to number 4, on Amazon.com, do you think you can mention, "Hitman" too? The American people STILL don't know it's US policy to kill leaders of other countries, who FEED the poor!

If that doesn't get them off your back, maybe you should try showing the Alex Jones video, "Order of Death" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2500924140588760933&q=Alex+Jones&hl=en
On Venezuelan Public Television. The world needs to know that George W Bush, worships a gigantic OWL, every year in the middle of July in Bohemian Grove. If you showed this video and the "Cremation of Care" ceremony, the American people, especially the Christians, would have a better understanding about why you called Bush the Devil!
Thankyou you your time Mr. Chavez. I know you must be very busy fighting off attacks from the Republicans, the Democrats, the American Media and the OWL GOD!

Yours Truly Joanne98
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:49 PM
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1. Dear Hugo,
Thanks for the heating oil.

God bless,
Bornaginhooligan.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:03 PM
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8. Wasn't that nice of him!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:50 PM
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2. LMAO. Alex Jones is an insane rightwing crackpot.
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 03:50 PM by geek tragedy
Yes, accusing Bush of worshipping a giant OWL will be really helpful.

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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:58 PM
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5. "Alex Jones is an insane rightwing crackpot."
Link?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:59 PM
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7. He thinks Clinton bombed Oklahoma City and had
Vince Foster murdered.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:04 PM
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9. SO! The "Cremation of Care" is still credible.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:09 PM
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15. Well, go on telling yourself that. eom
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:34 PM
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27. Are you saying the film is fake?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:39 PM
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35. Do you have proof the video is not real?
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:23 PM
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43. More importantly, do you have proof the video *is* real
?
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:20 PM
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19. Link?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:29 PM
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21. Here you go:
http://www.infowars.com/deaths.html

Both of Harwell and Allard were to be key in proving that the Federal Government premeditatedly murdered the Branch Davidians and then systematically obstructed justice and engaged in huge cover-ups. Now Allard is fighting for his life and Harwell is dead.

The numbers of dead surrounding the Clinton administration and all of its crime syndicate scandals has swollen to legendary proportions: Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Jim McDougal…the names go one and on. (Please go to Clinton’s Body Count for a list of related links)

Gennifer Flowers stated on CNBC last year that the reason she was going public about the other deaths surrounding people that tried to expose corruption in the Federal Government was that she knew that it was one of the only ways to protect herself from the most deadly of reprisals.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:35 PM
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28. BTW I hate Jennifer Flowers. I'm only talking about ONE video!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:06 PM
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11. Here it is and it's NOT in question!
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:19 PM
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17. I've seen it...
I am very familiar with Alex's work. I just don't like it when people accuse him of being a right-winger or a lunatic when all he does is source mainstream news sites, declassified govt documents, uncensored tv coverage, and personal interviews. Of course he puts his own narrative on everything, but as far as raw information goes he gives it to you straight.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:29 PM
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23. I don't care if he is RW! I'm talking about one video!
As far as I know nobody is denying it's real! In fact, they've already admitted sort of, that it is real. They even have guest lists, and programs they hand out. So what's the problem. I say let's talk about it. There's nothing else to do. It's interesting. Maybe we can get Rosie O'Donnell to mention it on, "The View". She's going to get fired anyway, she might as well go out big.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:58 PM
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6. The video is credible! The "Grovers" made a statement!
"It's just entertainment" or something like that. It's still a great flick and Chavez should shove up up Bush's ass!
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:19 PM
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18. David Gergen looked like he wanted to punch Alex
When he told him he was the one that infiltrated and taped their party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuNMQL_o3-A
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:22 PM
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20. I KNOW! He thinks it's funny at first but whoa.........
He flips when the COC comes up!
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:11 PM
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47. delete
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 08:12 PM by FoxOnTheRun
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:05 PM
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10. Even RW crackpots can be right some of the time!
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:02 PM
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34. Watch the video.
It's legit. It's not just RW. The elite of both sides meet annually at Bohemian Grove for all kinds of mischief.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:07 PM
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38. Thank you!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:22 PM
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49. Well, that "crackpot" predicted 9/11 and that Osama bin Laden
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 08:23 PM by file83
would be blamed. Call Alex Jones want you want for laughs, but he called it and it's on the record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8

What about that broadcast is "crackpot" now?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:51 PM
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3. Ha ha!
Nicely done!

Bohemian Grove is just up the coast from me. Damn, one of the Julys it might be fun to go Owl hunting up there -- who know what (who?) I'd find. :)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:07 PM
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13. If you need company let me know!
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:57 PM
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4. Charlie Wrangel Outfoxes Bush AND Chavez
On the other hand, maybe Chavez is just a clown who was playing to the non-aligned movement. He senses Castro is old and ill, and is grabbing Castro's mantel with both hands. There's no such thing as a power vacuum . . .

Charlie Wrangel tore Chavez a new body orofice today, and in my book Chavez richly deserved it. It was also a VERY canny move by the Democratic leadership.

We can only hope this is a return to the old "politics stops at the water's edge" doctrine, which served this country so well during the Cold War.

It's stupid and impractical to defend Chavez if he does something really stupid, just as it always has been to defend Castro.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:42 PM
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29. There will never be a return to "all politics stops at the waters edge"
Chavez is a democratically elected President which is more than I can say for Bush! SHAME on the Democrats for being herded like cattle once again. I'm expecting to see them all run out to the capital steps and sing "God Bless America" ANY DAY NOW!
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:07 PM
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12. Really, worshipping an OWL?
Okay...is this a joke? Kinda like SnipeHunting?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:08 PM
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14. It is NOT a joke! See link above!
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:29 PM
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22. The owl represents Moloch...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

Moloch is also on every single dollar bill in print currently. He is on the front right of the bill perched near the "1"

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=molech+dollar&btnG=Search


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:30 PM
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25. Isn't that Poppy's nickname?
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:28 PM
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50. Bush 41=Magog
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:19 PM
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16. You know what really pisses me off about Bohemian Grove
There is a picture of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon at Lakeside in 1957! The Grove has Redwoods Trees that are thousands of years old. During the 80's fucking Raygun sold almost all the Redwood trees in California to the fucking Japanese for, get this, 5 dollars a foot. About 300 per tree. We now have a tiny line of Redwoods to enjoy, but at the Grove, they still have theirs. Everytime I see those trees, my head explodes. The "Grove" is privately owned. Let's nationalize it and sell THEIR TREES to the fucking Japanese for 5 dollars a foot. See how they like it!
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:30 PM
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24. Bohemian Grove
What pisses ME off most about Bohemian Grove is that I'm not (and never will be) a member. (Negative net worth is such a social TURN-OFF, don't you find?)

How'd you get there to see those posters? Inquiring minds want to know . . .
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:32 PM
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26. Are you a woman? There's NO girls allowed!
Just watch the video. It's on google. It's not a secret.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:46 PM
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31. I'm a White Male. An impoverished White Male.
Good education, no money. Hence my certainty I will never be invited to join.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:55 PM
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32. You're absolutely right and you know what?
You should be pissed about that. Frat boys are running our country into the ground. I would rather have YOU making decisions for me than a bunch of 5th generation trust fund degenerates! ALL the money, ALL the power, ALL our problems and this is what they do. They're old and decrepit FOOLS! I want my country and my world run by serious people. This STUPID ceremony proves, SERIOUS, they're not. Bravo to you for being pissed.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:00 PM
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33. Eat the Rich
I DO try to have a sense of humor about the Bush health care system, which has impoverished me and my family.

On the other hand, I remember Dorothy Parker's line about the rich: "I hate all rich people. But I think I would be simply darling at it." :-)
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:44 PM
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44. Prostitutes are allowed and I think the Queen did attend once
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:46 PM
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30. I also have a message for the MSM...
Including Lou Dobbs who I love. SHUT UP ABOUT HUGO CHAVEZ. I mean SHUT UP! He isn't important. We have BIG problems. Global warming and a 49 trillion dollar debt. BTW! The Treasury Secretary is in CHINA! Now that's an important story. IS HE BORROWING MORE MONEY? DUH!
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:03 PM
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45. As long as you have the private Federal Reserve
it's not going to be better..

The US has to borrow 2.2 billion a day to pay the interest
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 05:43 AM
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53. From Freedom to Fascism coming soon to theatres.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:50 PM
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36. Wow, that video is really something! I laughed all the way
through it! Incredibly entertaining!! To think that any cogent human being could could believe any of this truly adds to the hilarity. I wish I had a picture of bush I, bush II, John Kerry, Walter Cronkite, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger and David Gergan running around naked in the woods performing human sacrifices! What would the Inquirer pay for that one? I am CERTAIN that this video is the most stupid thing I've seen in my lifetime! Just Incredible.....sigh. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to show up on Venezuelan TV. I would be willing to bet that Alex Jones doesn't take himself seriously...he appears to be having to fight back the laughter while doing his narrative.Bless you for sharing this it's has everyone in the office rolling on the floor!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:13 PM
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39. Ridicule! Won't work here. I'm talking about TEN MINUTES
Laugh if you want but those TEN MINUTES! Are worth talking about. BTW! They are NO human sacrifices! You must NOT have watched the video. Nice try though.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:30 AM
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55. I watched the entire video and captured it on my pc. You would
have to have an IQ below 80 to fall for this one. FUNNY! I hear that paranoid schizophrenia can make life a struggle but I hope it's not as bad as they say....:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:53 PM
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37. LOL
funny, naive, and inane. The need to find politicians to worship is simply alien to me. Have fun.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:14 PM
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40. I am having fun!
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:05 PM
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46. Chavez has all his 911 videos
I'm not sure if he has the Bohemian Grove stuff


Greg Palast told this Alex about his visit to Venezuela
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:23 PM
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41. Well. I have to go to bed...
If you think the TEN MINUTES of the "Cremation of Care" video should be put on Venezuelan Public Television, than feel free to keep kicked or fight the good fight. The truth is NOBODY, not even "The Grovers" is disputing the authenticity of the TEN MINUTES of the "Cremation of Care" film. It's not my fault that our leaders are assholes. If you don't like it, take it out on them. I'm just trying to prove a point. Shut up about Hugo Chavez OR talk about Bohemian Grove. It's simple! Goodnight and sweet OWL dreams!
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12string Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:48 PM
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42. chavez
It would seem that people went off on some tangents that
really have nothing to do with your original post Joanne,so I
am going to reiterate what I think you intended.THANK YOU
PRESIDENT CHAVEZ for saying in a public forum what so many of
us would say if we had the floor.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 05:45 AM
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54. Thank you!
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:12 PM
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48. John Conner had a show about Satanism
some days ago and he mentioned that he send stuff about Bohemian Grove to Keith Olberman.
Keith said it opened a whole new perspective for him, but he isn't going to show it on TV.

http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:04 PM
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51. OUCH - when you mention Alex Jones, they send the post straight to the...

September 11 DUNGEON!!!

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 05:41 AM
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52. I'm surprised I lasted long enough to go to the greatest!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:33 AM
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56. I voted for you.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:13 PM
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57. Thanx!
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:27 PM
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58. Woo! Owls rule! In your face, Owl haters!
Hoot!
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Brainster Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 05:06 PM
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59. So Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter Are In On It Too?
Don't get me wrong, the film is a hoot (sorry), but this film implicates the only two living Democratic ex-presidents as well.

Loved the bit about the local California protestors, though; apparently Jones is able to recognize wacky behavior in others if not in himself (e.g., his bizarre performance on 9/11/06 where he claimed that Queens Elizabeth and Beatrice were the real masterminds.
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 06:34 PM
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60. Zbigniew Brzezinski Jimmy's adviser bragged about creating Al Qa-eda
Edited on Fri Sep-22-06 06:44 PM by FoxOnTheRun
Here you can listen to JFK'S speech about secret societies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdEu7wFaaK0
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