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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:42 PM Original message |
The 9/11 Conspiracy Nuts- |
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ryanus (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sometimes I feel like a nut... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. My best guess is that they knew exactly what was going on. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. They only bungle the things they want to bungle. They get the money by the |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
62. "I know they're not smart enough to have pulled it off themselves" |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. How many people do you think kept The Manhattan Project secret? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. What leads you to belive the the accused hijackers were religious |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Inside help is possible, but..... |
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michael_1166 (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. There are secret military bases no one is allowed to talk about, |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
100. Like Area 51? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. There's a "no planes" theory that's been going around for a few months. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. i never heard that one before |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:54 PM Original message |
Here's some threads about it from the 9/11 forum. |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. A few months? That theory was thrown out years ago by the real 9/11 Truth |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. The threads I give above are recent. n/t |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Sure there are fools out there keeping those idiotic ideas alive...but |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. NoPlaners vs Thermitians vs Smithereeners...... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. If these people put all this energy toward something credible... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. Cage Death Match! |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
75. Mervin, you appear to be a one trick pony. n/t |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. No, but I find a good trick, I practice 'til I get it right. nt |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
70. There are truth seekers and there are nuts |
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DaDeacon (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Well, yeah |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. Ummm..There are thousands of people who saw the second plane. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
89. your post is wrong!! |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Yeah. It's called "disinformation". |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. That's a funny one. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
74. One bad theory does not a debunking make. It's easy to shoot down a straw |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. What a condescending hit piece that was... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. You're Welcome! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. Cockburn doesn't mention the wargames of 9-11 nor S.O.P. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Look, if you start looking into details, you'll become a conspiracy nut... |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. None of these self-proclaimed "debunkers" EVER mention the real meat |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Palast exposes NSA's 'policy shift', Palast under investigation... |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. This admin IS responsible...same as putting a burr under a sadle then |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Cockburn says that this administration and the administration before |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Nixon's '73 plans. Substitute "Iraq" for Saudi Arabia and voila ! |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. how about Johnson covering up the |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Time had a decent |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. That article in Time was HORRIBLE. It was just another condescending |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Yeah, I'm familiar with all the |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Oh, contraire - what ever helps you sleep better, believe what your Gov't |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. look... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Ok so now asking questions is the same thing as conspiracy theory? |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. no, |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Is there a simple answer to the war games? |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. they certainly |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. You have no idea what you are talking about, and you don't even know it... |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
88. So How About Showing Us Some Proof of the Official Conspiracy Theory? |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Can't prove what didn't happen. Will you settle for a PR report? NO? |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. And what, i suppose you think that they did not dissect alien bodies |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Hey! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. What do you think about the wargames of 9-11, tom ? |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. .. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. I know what I think about it. |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
77. "Wargames" aren't evidence of anything. And.... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 02:24 AM Original message |
So let me get this straight... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 02:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
98. So let me get this straight... |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. And what exactly is IPPS that supports Znet where this appears.. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. oh god.... absolutely no connection with scientology. |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. Oh, Alex. |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'm glad to learn none of our military systems work. |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. On the Nose! And, by a Lefty of the most impeccable Leftness. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
32. Cockburn doesn't believe in global warming & does believe in abiotic oil. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. Amazing. He claims Clinton was a murderer, but rants about 9-11 CTs. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Don't get him started on Stalin either ! nt |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. How does his positions on Clinton correspond to RW? The RW |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 05:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
69. The "Clinton Death List" |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. There is a huge difference... |
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
35. Supports "Wanted Something to Happen" |
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RufusEarl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
36. Well these people aren't crazy, take a look at this link. |
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TheFriedPiper (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. The craziest theory I have heard is the one that claims |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
66. Amen. |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
90. Notice How Hard They Are Working To Keep Adding To the Ridiculous Story |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. I just ordered three conspiracy books |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Cheney looks remarkably like Alan Dulles btw no CT just fact nt |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. These people are bad... therefore, if bad things happen... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Regardless, the Warren Commission's physics were dead on. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. What people don't seem to get, conspiracy or no conspiracy... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Yes, let's get at the underlying causes, and change US policy! |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. You're not insinuating that anyone who thinks JFK was not killed by Oswald |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. That i am not. just say what i believe. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. war games |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Kennedy was killed by someone standing where Oswald was. |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. Dear Mr. Cockburn, |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. I hear that.... What is the big deal in asking questions? |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
78. You need to read one of the MANY 911 PCT debunking sites. QUICK! |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. No, Most of your posts are BS! |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
71. ARGUMENT AD HOMINEM: It's a logical fallacy. |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
72. Alex Cockburn: Sees evil everywhere except at the CIA & Scientology |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. ARGUMENT AD HOMINEM: It's a logical fallacy. |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. He raised NO real issues. He did what OCT'ers here do all the time. |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. He raised the ESSENTIAL issues. |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. All that he raised fell faster than the exploded WTC buildings. KaBOOM. |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. If the arguments are weak, ADDRESS THEM. And..... |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. No case to answer. It was all typical Cockburn rantings. |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-15-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. It's not -Bush's- version. It's a shared reality constructed from the |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
83. The Left Gatekeepers. |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Fascinating. The Secret Government? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Money talks. |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. exactly... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
94. Great article... |
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Montauk6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
96. Well he throws in a lot of straw man arguments (JFK, the MOONWALK???) |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Airline incompetence.... |
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Montauk6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Not for nothing, Mervin, but if a plane gets delayed on the runway |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-15-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. But, you're on the plane. |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-15-06 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
102. It's all going to come out one day |
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