The movie made by the French brothers Naudet of NYFD (revisited)

[savemefromdumbya]

You've probably seen this many times but if the higher authorities were notified by this Fire Chief in Manhattan.......read on if you haven't

On March 11, 6 months after the September 11 destruction of the World Trade Center, CBS aired a film consisting largely of documentary footage on the firefighters of the FDNY's Engine 7, Ladder 1. Engine 7's firehouse is just several blocks from the WTC.

The footage was taken by a team of two French brothers, Jules and Gedeon Naudet, who'd begun their documentary on the life and times of these particular firemen some days before.

The firefighters of Engine 7 -- all of whom ended up at ground zero on September 11 -- by incredible grace, and maybe luck, all survived and lived to see another day... And many of their days since September 11 have been spent searching for the bodies of their lost comrades and the many, many other victims at ground zero.

Truly significant -- indeed crucial -- oddities, anomalies and flagrantly irreconcilable contradictions with the "official" "version" of the staggering WTC devastation are brought forth in this film, which serve to further prove the UTTER FALSITY of the federal government/Bush administration/mass media's threadbare official lies on nearly every single important aspect of this tremendous, horrific tragedy.

** First and foremost

Right off the bat, we smell something fishy in the fact that on September 11 at 8:30 AM Engine 7 -- the fire station closest to the World Trade Center -- received what turned out to be a spurious report of an "odor of gas" about a half-mile AWAY from the WTC to the north. This potentially serious but false report served to take the 7th Battalion's chief Joe Pfeiffer and a crew TRAINED in dealing with explosive/incendiary conditions AWAY from the Trade Center location... at the EXACT TIME the first plane impacted the tower.

However: nearly every member of this crew including filmmaker Jules Naudet, who filmed it, watched from the street with horrifying clarity at 8:46 as the first plane made a dead-on beeline for WTC tower one and smacked right into it.

** Second

Ranking NYC fire official Chief Pfeiffer notified higher authorities WITHIN MOMENTS of the plane's impact that the incident was CLEARLY a deliberate attack; an intentional act of mass death and devastation. As the small crew that had eye-witnessed the first plane hit the WTC was racing to the location, Chief Pfeiffer sounded red alerts over the radio and phone; specifically stating that what they witnessed was a "DIRECT ATTACK," that the plane was clearly being directed straight at the building and the incident was definitely NOT any kind of accident.

THUS: If, by some unimaginable combination of sheer stupidity, criminal incompetence, negligence, ineptitude and apparent MASSIVE concurrent near-unilateral failure of a number of (semi-)automatic air defense warning and alert systems, US government/military authorities charged with defending and patrolling the nation's airspace had somehow FAILED to have become aware of a SERIOUSLY suspicious and threatening ongoing situation occurring over the skies of the eastern US with a number of large, fully-fueled passenger jets OBVIOUSLY being in serious trouble and/or under hostile control and TOTALLY out of communication with aviation authorities, then they had a DEFINITE official report that this WAS the case once Chief Pfeiffer radioed in his red alert. The intervening TWENTY MINUTES that elapsed before the second plane hit the south WTC tower was MORE than enough time for interceptors to have reached ground zero from Air Guard bases barely TEN minutes away at LESS than maximum speed.

Now we have solid proof that a NYC fire official who EYE-WITNESSED the first plane hit the WTC DID inform higher authorities that the incident was CLEARLY A HOSTILE ATTACK!!

WHY, THEN, WAS OUR MULTI-TRILLION DOLLAR AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM NOT AT SUCH TIME IMMEDIATELY ACTIVATED, if it had somehow NOT been activated SOONER?!

What's also worth noting is that even as Pfeiffer and the others were speeding downtown, the main fireball from the exploding jet fuel had almost completely dissipated and the flames had subsided significantly, as is visible in the footage taken then by Jules Naudet.

** Third

When the above-noted fire crew and cameraman Jules Naudet arrived at WTC's tower one along with other fire crews and entered the building's ground floor lobby, they were to a one completely puzzled -- actually astonished -- to find SIGNIFICANT and widespread damage to the entire lobby area; although NOT of a deep, structural kind. Moreover, NOWHERE was there ANY indication whatsoever of an incendiary-type explosion or ANY kind of fire in this area.

Yet the incredible number of blown-out windows and other extensive though rather superficial damage throughout the lobby area was profoundly perplexing to these EXPERIENCED professional firefighters in relation to the impact of the plane eighty stories above. As one put it: "The lobby looked like the plane hit the lobby!"

But it DIDN'T: it hit EIGHTY STORIES ABOVE. There is NO WAY the impact of the jet caused such widespread damage eighty stories below. In a building which by design had easily withstood an amazing amount of flexing and swaying from high winds, the ground-floor damage witnessed by these men and recorded on camera could not POSSIBLY have been caused by that plane crash. Over and over, these professional firefighters expressed their complete puzzlement over the damage in this area. However, this glaringly anomalous factor was spin-doctored by the narrator, who said fire officials were later informed (OBVIOUSLY by "certain" federal officials) that the lobby damage occurred because "burning jet fuel" had poured eighty stories down the elevator shafts and then exploded in the lobby. Interesting fable -- but in fact there was not one SINGLE visible indication of ANY kind of burning, fire or incendiary-type explosion in the lobby area. The Feds' complete and utter fabrication about jet fuel having "exploded" in the lobby is thoroughly nullified by the clear visual evidence on the footage of the fire-crews in the tower one lobby.

According to this visual evidence, it is OBVIOUS and irrefutable that OTHER EXPLOSIVES (apparently of a non-incendiary kind such as concussion bombs) HAD ALREADY BEEN DETONATED in the lower levels of tower one at the same time as the plane crash -- before ANY fire crews and rescue workers arrived at the scene!

** Fourth

ALL the hundreds of professional firefighters massing at tower one AND their chiefs and superiors -- a number of whom had eye-witnessed the plane's actual impact -- along with other emergency services personnel familiar with and trained to deal with such disasters, were VERY surprised to find that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the north tower's elevators was OUT OF COMMISSION. Despite the obvious severity of the impact and the ensuing explosion and fire in parts of the building eighty stories above, these professional firefighters and rescue workers were at a loss to explain how EVERY SINGLE elevator could have been knocked out. Clearly, SOMETHING ELSE besides the plane crash was responsible for this truly dangerous state of affairs, which was a big factor in the large number of fatalities which ensued.

** Fifth

After the attack on the first tower, which had been reported by Chief Pfeiffer and other officials to higher authorities as a DELIBERATE AND HOSTILE ATTACK, the occupants of tower two were in the process of being evacuated. But THEN, obviously issuing from some diabolical source, word was spread throughout tower two's communications system that there was NO FURTHER DANGER and that ALL OCCUPANTS should return to their offices! Thus: Although clearly and SUSPICIOUSLY there was a VERY low attendance rate in both WTC towers that day, SOME agency or other took very deliberate steps to ensure that whoever WAS there that day was almost certain to die.

** Sixth

Clearly heard on the soundtrack of the CBS presentation of the Naudets' footage is the sound of a TV or radio announcer stating that there were reports of a FIRE and possible explosion having occurred at the Pentagon. Absolutely NOTHING was said about any PLANE having hit the Pentagon in these initial reports!


** Seventh

Explosions of varying loudness can be heard going off repeatedly throughout tower one during the time fire crews had set up their command post there after the first attack. WHAT WAS CAUSING THESE EXPLOSIONS? This is never even commented upon: but what else is there to SAY about this other than OTHER EXPLOSIVE DEVICES were DEFINITELY being detonated throughout the building after the plane had hit?!

** Eighth

ALL firefighters and rescue workers and their superiors and chiefs were FULLY CONFIDENT at ALL TIMES -- even after the attack on the south tower but before its unimaginable and unprecedented collapse -- that the dwindling conflagrations on the upper levels of the twin towers WOULD be fully contained, and that the majority of those people still up there WOULD be brought to safety. These trained and experienced professionals were FULLY aware of the extent and severity of the damage and destruction; yet not ONE of them even remotely envisioned something as catastrophic as the TOTAL, UTTER COLLAPSE of these two behemoth, tremendously solid structures. They knew they had a tough job to do -- and they KNEW -- every one of them -- that they COULD do it.

But then something they could never, ever have imagined DID happen. The buildings -- beginning strangely enough with the far less damaged and last to be struck south tower -- crumbled and sank from the Manhattan skyline in a vast and truly apocalyptic cloud of dust and rubble.

** Ninth

The south tower, which suffered far less damage than tower one, somehow or other crumpled to the ground. Professional fire and rescue workers on-site were in a state of near-total disbelief. THIS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY THE PLANE CRASH!

And THEN the same thing happened to the north tower.

And even MORE unbelievable: other than 3-4 inch thick steel beams jutting out everywhere which showed NO sign at all of having become softened, melted or anything similar, there was literally NOTHING LEFT of these gargantuan structures but DUST.

Moreover: EACH of the Trade Center's twin towers had a TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND+ GALLON water tank atop it. That's nearly a HALF-MILE gallons of water atop those two buildings. And not a single drop of it reached the ground.

In the words of Engine 7's Joe Casaliggi: "You have two 110-story office buildings. You don't find a desk; you don't find a chair; you don't find a telephone or a computer... . The biggest piece of a telephone was half of a keypad.

"There was nothing left of those buildings BUT DUST."

And we're supposed to believe that was caused by burning jet fuel -- THAT'S BASICALLY KEROSENE, folks -- which had LONG SINCE burned off in the initial fireballs.

We don't believe it. And neither do MANY, MANY other people, including a large number of New York City firefighters -- may God bless them for their selfless, honorable and heartfelt efforts to save others;

http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/03/912.shtml

[piobair]

1. Thank you

For a moment when I read the title of this thread I was afraid it was going to be another "Foreknowledge" thread with regard to the FDNY.
To any and all that think and promote the idea that the FDNY was somehow complicit in the attacks of 9/11 and the deaths of 343 of their brothers, a hearty "FUCK YOU". And to those who kick those threads may you be boiled in your own bile.
"Seid a Phiop"

[Feron]

2. In the lobby,

the cameraman points out that he walked by two burned people and decided not to film them. Obviously they must have been in the elevators because there wasn't enough time for them to walk down all those stairs and into the lobby.

I've also read accounts by survivors who were burned by the pouring jet fuel as they exited the elevator.

The elevators were probably all out because the fire fried some of the circuitry enough to trip a breaker. Rewiring to isolate the damaged elevators was probably the only way to get the working ones back online.

And I don't find it hard to believe that a building with a lot of sway can have all of it's windows shattered after:

1-Some of the building's support system severely damaged by

2-Being hit fast and hard by something larger than it was designed to handle.

As for the thick, black smoke that is always mentioned, it was most likely a burning of plastics and varnishes on the office furniture. I remember that from my minor firebug phase as a youth. And if the fire was minor certainly I wouldn't be jumping out of a building in order to get away from it.

As for the Pentagon, if it were simply an explosion, then why did many people see a plane hit it?? And where is the plane along with the passengers?? The Land of Oz??

The film pretty much demolishes many WTC myths, but I'm convinced that no truth will dissuade the conspiracy theorists.

[Ezlivin]

3. A few points to note about your observations

the cameraman points out that he walked by two burned people and decided not to film them. Obviously they must have been in the elevators because there wasn't enough time for them to walk down all those stairs and into the lobby

The only thing that is "obvious" is that two people who were "on fire" were in the lobby. Where they came from and how they got there is never discussed. Your point is mere conjecture.

I've also read accounts by survivors who were burned by the pouring jet fuel as they exited the elevator.

Although the firefighters discover that the elevators are inoperative people are burned "as they exited the elevator"? Could you provide a link to these accounts?

The elevators were probably all out because the fire fried some of the circuitry enough to trip a breaker.

You assume that fire damaged the elevators. Yet you claim that survivors were exiting the elevators. Which one is it? And please provide a link to the sources detailing fire damage to elevators.

And I don't find it hard to believe that a building with a lot of sway can have all of it's (sic) windows shattered after:

1-Some of the building's support system severely damaged by

2-Being hit fast and hard by something larger than it was designed to handle.

Please describe how a building can sway in such a way as to shatter windows on the lobby level, yet leave windows intact for the 70+ stories above that.

And the building did handle the aircraft that was slightly larger than a 727. In fact, here's a link to help you tell the difference between a 727 and a 757: http://www.ehow.com/how_7115_identify-boeing-757.html

As for the thick, black smoke that is always mentioned, it was most likely a burning of plastics and varnishes on the office furniture. I remember that from my minor firebug phase as a youth. And if the fire was minor certainly I wouldn't be jumping out of a building in order to get away from it.

More speculation on the nature of the smoke. It could also be from a smoldering fire that suffered from lack of oxygen.

People jumped for many reasons, but one would be the lack of oxygen because of the smoke. When you are choking to death, an open window and fresh air is extremely enticing.

As for the Pentagon, if it were simply an explosion, then why did many people see a plane hit it?? And where is the plane along with the passengers?? The Land of Oz??

Many people who have looked at the Pentagon's damage have wondered "where is the plane".

The film pretty much demolishes many WTC myths, but I'm convinced that no truth will dissuade the conspiracy theorists.

Maybe the "truth" will persuade people. Please list the ways in which the film "demolishes many WTC myths."

[RedSock]

4. another claim

Although clearly and SUSPICIOUSLY there was a VERY low attendance rate in both WTC towers that day

How many people were usually in each Tower between 8:45 and 9:05 on a weekday morning?

How many were in each tower on September 11, 2001?

Since the answer is "clear", I look forward to your response.

Thank you.

[One_Life_To_Give]

5. Where to begin

1) There is a fire station directly across the street from the WTC. E7, L1 is near but not the closest.

2) Who was supposed to do anything with what Chief Pfeiffer said? I never heard the Chief say to call the Airforce or any other Military unit. Do you think there was anything in the dispatchers written instructions on what to do with theat information? Who would you call? What would you say?

3) There were burning bodies in the lobby and all the windows were blown out. As this was two minutes after the impact, something flammable had been there.

4) I wouldn't say surprissed. More accepting that this was going to make there job very difficult.

5) With debries and bodies coming down from tower 1. You wanted to send peope out into the streets? There is alot to be said for the FD practice of defending in place.

6) HearSay, somebody said that somebody said, etc.

7) They did comment on this. It was the sound of bodies hitting the ground/building.

8) You saw only the front they put on. Those were not confident firefighters in those pictures.

9) Where do you hear the South Tower suffered less damage?

Try reading the NIST report on the collapse. It's not neccesary to melt or weaken all of the steel. Failure in a few areas will bring any building down.

[Pooka Fey]

6. This is a great post. Kicking for the Truth.