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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:19 PM
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Noam Chomsky: Their View of the World is Through a Bombsight
Published on Friday, September 1, 2006 by the Guardian/UK
Their View of the World is Through a Bombsight
American support for Israel's unwinnable aim of destroying Hizbullah only boosts its support in Lebanon and beyond

by Noam Chomsky

In Lebanon, a little-honored truce remains in effect - yet another in a decades-long series of ceasefires between Israel and its adversaries in a cycle that, as if inevitably, returns to warfare, carnage and human misery. Let's describe the current crisis for what it is: a US-Israeli invasion of Lebanon, with only a cynical pretense to legitimacy. Amid all the charges and counter-charges, the most immediate factor behind the assault is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

This is hardly the first time that Israel has invaded Lebanon to eliminate an alleged threat. The most important of the US-backed Israeli invasions of Lebanon, in 1982, was widely described in Israel as a war for the West Bank. It was undertaken to end the Palestinian Liberation Organisation's annoying calls for a diplomatic settlement. Despite many different circumstances, the July invasion falls into the same pattern.

What would break the cycle? The basic outlines of a solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict have been supported by a broad international consensus for 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border, perhaps with minor and mutual adjustments.

The Arab states formally accepted this proposal in 2002, as the Palestinians had long before. Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has made it clear that though this solution is not Hizbullah's preference, they will not disrupt it. Iran's "supreme leader" Ayatollah Khamenei recently reaffirmed that Iran too supports this settlement. Hamas has indicated clearly that it is prepared to negotiate for a settlement in these terms as well.


more at:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0901-20.htm
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:24 PM
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1. Chomsky is a terrorist apologist and an anarchist.
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 01:27 PM by Selatius
His position is automatically discredited. :sarcasm:

On a more serious note: Israel was a fool for going off the deep end with Hezbollah. They just made Hezbollah that much stronger and more popular than it ever has been in the past.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:54 PM
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4. Is there a word that describes getting your dander up when you
read the post title, and then back down when you read the body of the text?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:05 PM
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5. Yup, sorta like going into Iraq to get rid of the terrorist!?
Just made matters worse. There is so much insanity running throught the minds of our present administration that only a turn over in November can help. If we could only replace those damn voting machines, with no possible verification of votes, with punch cards, at least there was some evidence that someone voted somehow.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:26 PM
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2. I'm glad you posted this -- k & r (nt)
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:53 PM
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3. thanks!
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:29 PM
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6. What does a Palestinian state have to do with Lebanon?
Oh, that's right, Hezbollah was firing rockets into Israel from southern Lebanon. Not that anyone would even guess that from reading the article.

And what is Iran's interest in a Palestinian state? Why is Iran more concerned with the Palestinians, than with the genocide in Sudan, or the conflict in Somalia? Is it because the Palestinians are more aggrieved? Or because in the other cases, it is Muslims committing the violence, and not Jews? Does that mean maybe, just maybe, that there are religious interests at play here? (Not that you could tell that from the article, either.) And if so, does that perhaps raise at least a little suspicion about the claimed interest of Ayatollah Khamenei and Hezbollah?

These are salient issues related to the problem. And obvious ones. Obvious, that is, except to Chomsky. Selatius is wrong. This article doesn't get dismissed because Chomsky wrote it. Just the converse: this is an example of the blind writing that gets Chomsky dismissed.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:25 AM
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10. That didn't happen until after the invasion and bombing
Same in 1982--ZERO rocket attacks for a full year before the invasion then. Remember that? It was the invasion that created Hezbollah. No 1982 invasion = no Hezbollah.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:34 PM
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7. The last bombing and excursion into Lebanon
was obviously a blunder from the beginning. Once they withdrew from southern Lebanon, who was there to try and pick up the pieces? Hizbullah of course. I could have saved Israel the trouble if I had influence with them instead of the administration. This foreign policy is nuts.
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:12 PM
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8. Has anybody heard of the TOW Missiles?
excuse me for posting a freeper link
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678137/posts



It's clear that 2001 is not from Iran-Contra...

ah anyway, just a tank division lost and over 1000 people dead, the christians now love Hezbollah.

Everything is wonderful :sarcasm:


I forgot

Bush 'viewed war in Lebanon as a curtain-raiser for attack on Iran'

The report by Seymour Hersh quotes an unidentified US government consultant with close ties to the Israelis who says: "The Israelis told us it would be a cheap war with many benefits. Why oppose it? We'll be able to hunt down and bomb missiles, tunnels, and bunkers from the air. It would be a demo for Iran."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081406L.shtml
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Generarth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:09 PM
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9. undergroundrailroad, Lithos
I suggest you put this thread back where it was. It does not belong in the 9/11 dungeon because it has nothing to do with 9/11 and just in case you hadn't noticed, Noam Chomsky believes the official 'story'.

Stop being pathetic.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:50 AM
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11. Oh that makes sense, putting this in the 9-11 forum
Chomsky doesn't even believe 9-11 was an inside job, and the article is basically a critique of Israel.

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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 05:47 AM
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12. Chomsky 911 gatekeeper?
We know he gets Pentagon funding and that makes him a gatekeeper in the eyes of many people.

He can't question the Osama cave myth... the left wouldn't buy a used car from Bush but believes him on 911.
Just incompetence , yeah right.



(EDITOR'S NOTE: According to John Coleman, author of "Conspirators Hierarchy," Noam Chomsky is the chief theoretician of "the Committee of 300's most notorious Washington based left wing think tank, the Institute of Policy Studies," also known as Phony Pregressives 'R' Us. By the way, how did this guy ever become a cult figure/icon when he's been an Illuminati shill since the begining?)

"In 1955, Chomsky's friend Roman Jakobson arranged for him to work as a researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Chomsky, in his own words, `had no identifiable field or credentials in anything', but MIT, `a scientific university which didn't care much about credentials,' was willing to overlook his lack of certifiable `professional competence'.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=109&contentid=678&page=2


Chomsky himself says the funding from the Pentagon has declined since the 70's

In fact a striking example of all this which we see very clearly at MIT, a main technological scientific university, is a recent shift in funding. When I got to MIT 50 years ago, it was Pentagon funded, almost one hundred percent. That stayed true until about 1970. Since then, however, Pentagon funding has been declining and funding from the National Institute of Health and the other so called health-related national institutes has gone up.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=7885
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:31 AM
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13. you think that's the reason why the mod put it here?
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