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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:08 AM Original message |
Flight 77 - What hit the Light Poles? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. At least the question isn't "what hit the pentagon?" |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That demonstration has nothing to do with Flight 77's FDR information |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No kidding. The link I provided does though. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. it's a friggin cartoon, but if it makes you happy, fine. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Your replies concerning this model are pathetic. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. how do you know it has nothing to do with the FDR? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Because of its date of creation. nt |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. That is a ficticious account. It is made to fit the "facts" |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Made to fit the facts? Made To Fit The Facts? MADE TO FIT THE FACTS!? |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
74. to fit the "made up facts" |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. What "made up facts"? nt |
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No DUplicitous DUpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
156. Thanks for pointing out that re-creation. It was good. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
52. One wonders how |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. Some light |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. The altimeters were reset at 9:24:16. See Columns CG and CH in the FDR |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Class A airspace - 29.92 alitimeter setting |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. "why would a hijacker *care* about following proper procedures" |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Not for a VFR pilot |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Are you a pilot? |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Yes |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I just edited while you were responding......So am I.... |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Responding to edit... |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Here is some info from the 911 commission: |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Some thoughts |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I think you are making my point. |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Who said anything about the go around smoking? |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. The VIDEO makes a lot of hay out of a simple turn. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. It's like 25 hrs right seat in type, right? |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. 2) is a really, really good question. |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. So - Are the people at pilotsfor911truth liars? |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Where is the problem ? |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
103. What utter bunk..... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Well, they're an offshoot of the loose change club so... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. are you saying the animation released by the NTSB is wrong? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Are you admitting that the FDR from Flight 77 is real? nt |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. Interview with JohnDoeX |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. No discontinuities at 18,000 ft suggests that the FDR is showing Press Alt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Based on the physical evidence, it did hit them. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. that is a cartoon and it is obviously disinfo |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. So, you want to use the FDR from a flight you say didn't exist |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why is everyone making a big deal out of the fact........ |
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QuettaKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. very interesting thread. |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. the fancy manouvering |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Um, he crossed his original flight-path. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
53. But he wasn't gonna land |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Why not take a nose dive? |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. You are seeing this in retrospect |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I'm seeing this as a private pilot who has flown for 20 years. |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:56 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. "Is it possible " -"not at all likely " - "these guys WERE " |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #70 |
100. I'll only speak to what I have some insight. The flight path... |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. "100% wrong. Not true. 100% the opposite. " |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. He was an instrument/commercial rated licensed pilot........ |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. You are quick to dismiss other opinions as bullshit |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:31 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. How long should one wait before calling bullshit? |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. True, but they were thinking beings |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:55 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. "Some of the passengers had spoken on mobile phones "? NO |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 02:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. No, you're incorrect. Renee May also called her mother. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 03:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Six individuals |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 03:38 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Do you think air travel employees were trained to fight back |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 05:47 AM Response to Reply #81 |
93. I remember seeing Ted Olson being interviewed |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 07:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
98. I counted 13 different versions in 2003 |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Even if they knew about the other planes, |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. No |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. But you weren't on the plane. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 03:32 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Well, we have the phone calls |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 03:45 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. The strength of my argument doesn't depend on bombs at all. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 04:25 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. No |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 04:31 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I said forget the bombs, and justify |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 05:10 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. It's the official explanation? |
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medienanalyse (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. "the passengers may have been told " |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. No, it's a reasoned, speculative hypothesis. nt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Hindsight is what? ;) nt |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 06:56 AM Response to Reply #63 |
96. You are assuming they didint try a nose dive first |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
72. rumsfeld time line scary - |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
125. There were trained ER personnel to help victims and Rummy is |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. That's the thing. It wasn't at all fancy. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yes. In addition, |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. I'm not sure what you question is re: ground effect. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Thanks, I see. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I suppose there would be a ground effect. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #21 |
126. In the words of Paul Wolfowitz |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
128. If one is not a pilot, it is hard to tell who to believe |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
16. can you say smoking gun? |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. So, what hit the polls? A missile? nt |
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boolean (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. ONCE AGAIN |
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bmcatt (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. What's wrong with just asking the questions? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Strawman. There's nothing wrong with asking questions. |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
73. You're right, and it's no strawman.eom |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
127. Have to agree. Those who say that would make terrible police |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Wouldn't hitting the lightpoles |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Combustion takes time to start |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Breaking of wings doesn't? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. The light poles are designed to break away, not the wings! nt |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Light poles designed to break away? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yes, designed to break away. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. So is there any proof |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Yes, in answer to your question: |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Do you ever get the feeling you are talking to a brick wall? nt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Hehe. I think I'd rather call it |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I don't have time for your wild goose chases |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Oh c'mon. I wouldn't call your original question a wild goose chase. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
122. to make it look as though a large plane came in very low, |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
123. Do you have any proof of how the light poles were brought down? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
35. What hit the Light Poles? - Was the landing gear down? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. Just a question |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
75. Knocked down by jet engine blow back maybe?? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 06:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
95. I think we've talked about that possibility before... |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 07:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
97. Nope |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #75 |
101. I'm confused. What would you have heard? |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. It would have been exceedingly out of the ordinary |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Wow. Your neighborhood goes in to a tizzy over a plane..... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Perhaps I'm mistaken, did he totally nosedive in the last 10 miles or so? |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. I'm not sure what you are saying but the graph seems to be a bit... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I see. There's a corollary map of the "final approach" from NTSB |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Was there a picture embedded? All I got was a "red X" nt |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Let me try again see if uploadfile.info works better than hotlinking |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-02-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. RE: map scale |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-02-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. There has only been one officially released flight path. |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-08-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Was 495 a typo? Yep, or maybe just a brain fart. I meant 395 and Rt. 7 |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
94. JohnDoeX in defense of analysis and anonymity |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 08:33 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Ask him how much atlimeter lag we should see 5400ft/min descent rate. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Do we even know, for a fact, that this isn't a radar altimeter? nt |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
113. The FDR column is labeled as "pressure alt" |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-02-06 06:51 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Thanks. I understand there are readings for the pressure alt. |
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johndoeX (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-08-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Kingshakabobo |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-08-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Welcome to DU! |
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johndoeX (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 04:50 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. 26 yrs old? |
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johndoeX (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 04:53 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. or perhaps you can debate the facts? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 03:48 AM Response to Reply #121 |
136. Perhaps I can. State one. nt |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. Funny stuff goin on at YouTube........ |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. And....Poof! It's gone! |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #120 |
129. CFII? Do you know what altimeter lag is on the 757 >5000ft/min nt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. according to the Youtube profile. nt |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. LOL. Another internet phony. 26 years old with 20 years experience. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 03:01 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Deleted message |
Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #117 |
139. Any comments on Hysteresis and its effect on an altimeter during... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-09-06 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
124. it was the ay-rab goat herder |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #124 |
132. "ay-rab goat herder"? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 02:12 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. someone took over those planes |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 03:46 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. "Don't you listen to the radio?" |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 07:36 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. I'm glad to be of help |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-10-06 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
138. There's no proof that ANYTHING "hit" the light poles. |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
142. Cabbie who was hit by a light pole supposedly |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. What is an "LC" guy? Is it too much to just spell it out? EOM |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
143. Bush Senior's plane clipped a pole & tore off a wing |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Of course - but disruptors will say "different kind of plane, ma'am". NT |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Sure, don't let the factinistas get in your way or slow you down.... |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. You neglected to mention about the poles. Remember the POLES? |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. I try to speak about only what I know............ |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #148 |
153. Now I understand why you didn't respond to the points I made. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. "where in my post is there any mention of a Gulfstream?" |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Your post is little more than an excuse for not being able to refute mine. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. I have no idea and neither do you! |
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Nozebro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. I'll stick with the proof/expert opinion. N/T |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Which would be........what? |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Good point, the poles were bigger too, 200 feet tall |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. I'm not sure what your point is??? |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. I'd expect more damage from larger poles/towers too |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-11-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. That's what I thought.... |
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johndoeX (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #152 |
160. Vertical Speed/Alternate Analysis/Fallacy of Lag issues |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-29-06 05:45 AM Response to Reply #143 |
162. wings of a large plane might not have torn off, |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-29-06 05:59 AM Response to Reply #143 |
163. And this is relevant because? (n/t) |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-29-06 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
161. kick nt |
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