A little about UBL - the forgotten mastermind

[Sinti]

First know this:


In Sep-Oct of 2001 Pakistan's two Islamic parties negotiated bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to
stand trial for the September 11 attacks. Usama agreed to this. The offer was that he would face an
international tribunal, which would decide whether to try him or hand him over to America. Musharraf
declined the offer. Later, a US official said that "casting our objectives too narrowly" risked "a
premature collapse of the international effort if by some luck chance Mr bin Laden was captured".


So who is this Usama that we're not interested in catching?


On background, the family appears to have had CIA ties for a while. On September 3, 1967, Mohammed
bin Laden was killed when his company airplane, a Beechcraft flown by James Harrington, a pilot
employed by the Central Intelligence Agency and who had the rank of colonel in the US Air Force,
crashed during landing at Hamis Musayt, in southwest Saudi Arabia.
Usama had a religious, yet westernized upbringing. He went to a Western-style Saudi school and
received four one-hour English lessons a week in '68 and '69. Apparently he called himself Sammy and
wore Western-style clothes. He worked for the Saudi Bin Laden Group for more than a decade utilizing
his civil engineering skills. The Saudi Bin Laden Group that was building our bases. The bin Laden
Group even submitted a bid with Enron for a Saudi power plant.


In college he made friends with Prince Turki bin Faisal, a young royal and the future chief of Saudi
intelligence services. Later, UBL was chosen by Prince Turki as the chief recruiter, and fund raiser
for the Afghan struggle against the Soviets. The CIA furnished the mujahedeen with weapons and money
(via Pakistan's ISI) and trained the mooj to destroy the Soviets.
In 1990, after having spent time at home working for the Bin Laden Group, he dashed off to Sudan and
started spending money, building roads, digging wells, and opening a a trading company called Laden
International, a civil engineering company and a firm running farms. In October of 1996 Usama bin
Laden was back in Kabul to meet the Taliban, a month after they had conquered Kabul, with the help
(guns and money) of the ISI and the encouragement of the CIA.


August, 7 1998, the Nairobi, Kenya, embassy bombings took place and UBL got famous. UBL denied
involvement. Three months later Prince Turki, head of Saudi Arabia's security services, went to the
Taliban for his old friend UBL's head, and returned home empty handed. Prince Turki is now the head
of Saudi Arabia's Intelligence service.


The reasons for UBL's original fatwa are completely nonsensical. He claims we have been "occupying"
SA for 7 years, plundering its riches, and dictating to its rulers. We have no place in the "Holy
Land", etc. We have in fact been there since 1945, primarily at Dhahran Airfield (run first by our
military, then by a private American company called Vinnell Corporation with CIA ties) under a
"security for oil" agreement. At the Saudi’s request in 1971 the U.S. Corps of Engineers supervised
Saudi military and development projects, military facilities in Khamis Mushayt and Tabuk, as well as a
naval base at Jubayl on the Saudi Gulf coast and a military academy in Riyadh. We're military allies
and have been for a very long time.


He complains that we are using SA as a base to fight Iraq, when he apparently got his knickers in a
twist because the King wouldn't let him fight Iraq. This reasoning is highly suspect, and
rather schizophrenic. All of a sudden after all those years in Afghanistan he has a problem cooperating with the US in a military effort? HUH?


It's a tenuous relationship we have with the Saudis. Every time the Saudis are threatened they bring
us in closer, when they are not threatened they push us away to appease the ultra-conservatives in
their midst. It was obviously not a surprise to anyone that we were there to protect them. It was
typical behavior. The bin Laden family, while not royalty, are the King's architects. They are close,
and gain greatly from our involvement with them. Usama knew this all his life and even worked in the
family business.


The Royal Family uses the "Arab street's" hatred of Israel and the US to protect themselves. They have
good reason to fan these flames. As long as the peasants are focusing their hate on "The Great Satan",
they're not looking up at the palaces with guillotines in mind. If this sleight of hand fails, our
military will happily put that Arab street down. The Royal Family counts on this - we need that oil
and will kill for it.



From the FBI's own web site: Usama bin Laden is Left Handed and Walks with a Cane

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm


In fact, here he is firing a gun left-handed.





In this video that your government says is Usama he is writing with his right
hand. His left arm is obviously not injured, he gestures with both of them. Why is he writing
with his right hand? Because this is NOT Usama.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6593724134285089683&q=osama&hl=en


Now, we know this is not UBL, it's a cover created by your own government, or they would not have said
it was him. The thing I can't figure out is, if UBL is still an asset, why did they US government say
this film was him? Why didn't they get him to make the film himself? If he was no longer an asset, if he really had gone off the reservation, they would have killed him - I personally have no doubt about this, why did they US government say this film was him? Remember, he offered himself up to be tried, both we and the Pakistan government (our great ally in the GWOT) said "no thanks."


Source Links:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=11427607&method=full

http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/fisking-war-on-terror-once-upon-time.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/webinator/search/?query=khanaqin+Arabization&pr=defaul
t&order=r&cmd=context&id=42b635433

http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_15/eilts_hart1.html

http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2002/issue3/jv6n3a7.html

http://www.theworldjournal.com/2002/osamabusiness.htm

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntm80429.htm

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/11/01/osama_profile/print.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=1702168543&sType=1

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. The US will never kill Usama

The bin Laden family is the 2nd most powerful family in Saudi Araba. They have had very close ties to the Bush family for decades. The bin Laden family will not stand for the US killing Usama.

(I got this from someone who knows)

[sabbat hunter]

2. i know quite a few

lefties that write with their right hand. mainly older people (40+) because they were forced to learn that way in school. this it is just possible that osama was forced to write with his left hand when younger and is more comfortable that way?