Hope for all 9/11 truth seekers. The guilty are beginning to crack.

[Demeter]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_william__060808_hope_for_all_9_2f11_tr.htm


By William Douglas

Hope for all 9/11 truth seekers. The guilty are beginning to crack. Today's AOL poll 50 percent of voters now believe the government is involved (AOL was a few months ago filled with Bush lovers). Today's CNN Poll showed 70 percent believe 9/11 was an inside job. Professionally I teach stress management for corporations. I have observed Rumsfeld and Rice's behavior lately on TV. They are terrified. They can barely breathe. There is a defeatism and terror in their eyes and frantic speech patterns, that were not long ago so arrogant and proud.

Why? Because as we've all realized, the 9/11 lies are so incredibly transparent, once people get thru the media blockade of propaganda and realize how absolutely transparent the 9/11 fraud was. Millions have done that. The few thousand of us that were bouncing off the walls to get the truth out, have now been replaced with reinforcements. People not burned out from our years of struggle. People with fire and energy, and a burning need to get truth out far and fast.

Bush, is a different story. He's too stupid to be as afraid as he should be at this point, but even he is now terrified. However, as Rumsfeld, Rice, etc.s fear grows . . . he too will become increasingly frantic and frazzled. Cheney is AWOL, probably because he most of all is terrified. Which I think is why he got drunk and shot a guy, because he was smart enough to see they were caught before any of the others fully realized it.

Even the most conservative 9/11 poll shows one in every three people you meet on the street in America know the Administration is complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Most polls show between 50 percent and 70 percent do.


Gandhi said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

The last weeks have seen their clumsy attempts to fight us, futilely, as the truth is so much more powerful and real than any tricks they might pull out. We all know what the next step is now that they are fighting us. Media that once attacked viscously is softening their attacks. They don't want to end up looking like accomplices.


"There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible. But in the end they always fall. Think of it. Always."
-- Mahatma Gandhi



Authors Bio: William E. Douglas, author of "The Amateur Parent - A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe."

[Warpy]

1. As a nurse whose education included an in depth study

of the stress reaction, I fully agree with your assessment. Any of them with more than one active neuron (it takes two to make a synapse) is fully aware that their dreams have all blown up in their arrogant faces and they haven't a clue what to do to repair the damage. This is where a leader would step in and formulate a plan but this bunch is essentially leaderless, just a fractured, compartmentalized administration in which the separate parts do not communicate with each other and which lacks central leadership.

Expect them to try to become leaders on their own, going of half cocked with plans that have been made in what is essentially an information vacuum. Expect to see the various non communicating departments contradicting each other. Expect to see the supposed leader try to give more women drunken massages in important meetings.

This is the self destruction a lot of us predicted in the beginning. We knew their information was faulty and their policies completely wrong headed. We knew they would evenutally implode.

If our country is to survive, the incoming Congress will have no choice but to remove them.

[MissWaverly]

12. he ran over an armadillo today on his bike

and fell off trying to negotiate a steep hill

[mom cat]

17. That poor wittle armadillo .... How the hell can you run over an armadillo

with a bike? That is dumber than dirt.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. Poor little armadillo

my ass. The only good thing Bush would have done has President would have been to kill the damn thing and he couldn't even get that right.

[indepat]

21. Hallelujah, hallelujah, halleluhah

[grannylib]

2. Halos need slip only a few inches to become nooses...these

shameless fuckers will end up hanging themselves with their own lies, arrogance, theft, war-mongering, fear-mongering, and smear tactics.
The accusations they level at others are those things of which they themselves are most guilty.

I pray that the American people are finally waking up from their brainwashed slumber...
Our current 'leadership' is anything but.

[mother earth]

5. Go, granny! My kind of granny...I am in total agreement and awe

of you. Granny, I wish I could shake your hand!

[grannylib]

6. Well thanks...I am pretty ordinary, actually....just another citizen, wife

mother and grandma who cares about the future of our nation and our kids/grandkids!

:hi:

[mother earth]

8. Me too, granny, I'm with you!

:kick: :thumbsup: :hi:

[Maraya1969]

3. I am really not there but I have not done the type of research you

and others have done. However there have been times, like when I try to reason in my head how building 7 imploded, that I become filled with an awful sense of foreboding.

I do believe that 9/11 would never have happened until Clinton's watch. And I am more inclined to believe that rather than make it happen they let it happen. Especially when I see all the terror plots that have been foiled since then. The United States certainly had the intelligence to stop 9/11 if they were either paying attention or cared.

[petgoat]

13. 9/11 would not have happened under Gore

Clinton had ordered the CIA to kill Osama, but they hired
Afghan tribesmen for the job who lacked enthusiasm.

Clinton wanted cruise missile strikes, but the Navy put in
the impossible impediment of demanding 10 hours notice.

Sandy Berger on 11-7-00 asked the Pentagon for commando raids
on the al Qaeda camps--Secretary of Defense Wm. Cohen and the
chairman of the Joint Chiefs opposed him.

Richard Clarke developed a plan to go after al Qaeda militarily
and through interfering with their financial networks. Had
the Supreme Court not intervened, Gore would doubtless have
gone forward with Clarke's plan. Expecting reprisals, our
government would have alerted the airlines, and would have
heeded warnings from 11 countries (including Taliban) and three
FBI offices of upcoming attacks.

Clarke presented his plan to Condi late in January. Sandy Berger
went along to underscore its importance. Condi's response was
to demote Clarke so he no longer had cabinet-level access. The
Predator drone stayed on the ground, and a "policy review" was
instituted that was still ongoing when 9/11 happened.

And of course W's response to the delivery of the "Bin Laden
Determined to Strike in US" memo was to say "OK, you've covered
your ass." Then he went fishing. But he had fighter cover 24/7
while he was in Crawford.

9/11 would not have happened under Gore. Why no one made this a
campaign issue, I don't know.

Much of the story appears here:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020812/story.html

[flyarm]

23. under Gore John O'Neil would have connected the dots ...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/view/
" THE MAN WHO KNEW"

AND NOT BEEN THWARTED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY EXPOSING bIN lADEN
or the secret government...

fly

[Bolo Boffin]

37. Another thing you and I agree upon completely, petgoat

The first thing being that the 9/11 attacks were not "unthinkable."

[Slaughtermeyer]

39. 9/11 would have happened, Lieberman would have been Pres.

I'm sure the Neocons would have arranged for Gore to have contracted a fatal illness or 'accident.'
Lieberman has demonstrated that he is just as willing as Bush to use the US military for the benefit of Israel.

[Mnemosyne]

16. If they let it happen, then why were

there fbi agents taking the videos from the gas station and hotel within minutes of impact of the Pentagon?

Just something to think about.

MIHOP.

[Maraya1969]

22. The FBI would not have been in on it or directed to not pay attention

In my opinion.

[Mnemosyne]

32. It's a well-known fact that

the FBI showed within minutes.

[Maraya1969]

33. Just like our military jets could have shown up to block the hijacked

plans - in minutes - if they were not diverted by some war games dreamed up by Cheney.

I'm still confused but I do believe that these planes should never have hit the Trade Center or the Pentagon.


BTW - WHERE IS THE BLACK BOX FROM THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON?

[Mnemosyne]

35. 4 crashes and supposedly not a

single black box found. Sounds like BS to me.

You are right, it never should have happened.



MIHOP, still, since 9/11 when I saw the Pentagon lawn.

:hi:

[Blue Belle]

40. The towers falling made me a MIHOP since the morning of 9/11...

It didn't feel right when I saw it - it looked too clean, too organized. Pretty damned convenient way for the two largest buildings on the East Coast to come down in the most expensive business district in the world. The only other building to get demolished was building 7 (which didn't make sense either) - out of the WHOLE building complex. It just didn't make sense to me.

It also didn't make sense that there were no wings left on the Pentagon lawn. Where are the wings?

Call me a conspiracy nut if you like.. I don't care. The media's version of 9/11 doesn't pass the smell test for me.

[sarcasmo]

25. Find the missing Gold and you may solve most of the puzzle.

If I am not mistaken it's around 167 billion Dollars in Gold. This could have been a cover for the greatest robbery in the History of the World. It's just my opinion, but Google Pull it 9/11, Put Options 9/11, and Gold 9/11.
167 Billion Dollars is a good motive to kill 3000 or so people.

[Sinti]

38. 167 Billion Dollars is pocket change compared to what they've taken

out of or national treasury in the name of terra.

[respublicus]

4. got a link to those polls?

I don't see any poll at aol.com home page
cnn is running this poll :
Have you recently changed your travel plans to avoid flying?

[cosmicdot]

10. the OP's linked article isn't dated "today"

so, you probably won't see any poll at aol.com home page today, 13 August


I did a simple search of 'AOL poll 911', and found ...

this AOL article dated August 6, which includes two polls
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/911-conspiracy-theorists-claim-momentum/20060806160209990003

Are you satisfied with the 9/11 commission's investigation?
No 69%
Yes 31%
Total Votes: 8,137


Whose version of 9/11 comes closer to what you believe happened?
Conspiracy theorists' 55%
U.S. government's 45%
Total Votes: 8,432

These may not be the polls the article's author, William Douglas, is referencing, but they are recent.

[mother earth]

7. Thank you, Demeter, for posting this it gives us great hope that the truth

is starting to shine through. Some of us have been waiting a long time. I can see it & find encouragement in each little bit of coverage and attention this unbelievably important issue commands.

Whatever ANYBODY believes about 911, the truth has not even been touched upon. How does one fight the war on terrorism when one does not look it straight in the eye, uncovering each and every bit of truth, so that we can say NEVER AGAIN!

We owe the truth to every victim of the 911 perpetrators. We owe it to ourselves.

Major kudos to William E. Douglas!

Major, major kudos to the Jersey girls and each and every person who demands full disclosure & reopening the 911 investigation by an "independent" commission. It is completely shameful that after 5 years we still don't have the whole story. WHY? WHY? WHY?

[RufusEarl]

9. Here's a good read on the subject!

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1098.shtml

[mother earth]

20. It certainly is. I've bookmarked the site to check daily.

Thank you for pointing this out & I encourage others to read the article you have kindly posted the link to. :kick:

His article is thought provoking & I believe it is exactly what we are witnessing. This could get a whole lot uglier. But one thing is for certain, at the same time it is going to be their downfall. We may not have transparency in gov't, but we sure as heck are seeing it in their propaganda and tactics. They are leading the way to their own backlash. They may have forgotten what democracy is, but where I sit the people still expect it. Time is on our side. They are truly pitiful if they think we buy their BS.

[eleny]

11. Kicking this to the Greatest

Thanks so much for your professional assessment. And I enjoyed the replies you received as well.

[sarcasmo]

14. Kick to the top for the truth.

[i miss america]

19. Hopefully it'll still be found now that it was moved down into the dungeon

http://www.worldtradecenter.com

[nashville_brook]

15. so much for that.

[John Q. Citizen]

18. I hope they crack quick!

This is cool, this thread exists simultaneously on the greatest page and in the 9/11 forum.

Thank you mods, thank you DU!

You rock!

[Grateful for Hope]

26. Hope for 9/11 truthseekers

This is currently posted in Editorials and Other Articles. If that thread is moved here, I will ask the mods to delete this one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x228853

By William Douglas

Hope for all 9/11 truth seekers. The guilty are beginning to crack. Today's AOL poll 50 percent of voters now believe the government is involved (AOL was a few months ago filled with Bush lovers). Today's CNN Poll showed 70 percent believe 9/11 was an inside job. Professionally I teach stress management for corporations. I have observed Rumsfeld and Rice's behavior lately on TV. They are terrified. They can barely breathe. There is a defeatism and terror in their eyes and frantic speech patterns, that were not long ago so arrogant and proud.

Why? Because as we've all realized, the 9/11 lies are so incredibly transparent, once people get thru the media blockade of propaganda and realize how absolutely transparent the 9/11 fraud was. Millions have done that. The few thousand of us that were bouncing off the walls to get the truth out, have now been replaced with reinforcements. People not burned out from our years of struggle. People with fire and energy, and a burning need to get truth out far and fast.

Bush, is a different story. He's too stupid to be as afraid as he should be at this point, but even he is now terrified. However, as Rumsfeld, Rice, etc.s fear grows . . . he too will become increasingly frantic and frazzled. Cheney is AWOL, probably because he most of all is terrified. Which I think is why he got drunk and shot a guy, because he was smart enough to see they were caught before any of the others fully realized it.

Even the most conservative 9/11 poll shows one in every three people you meet on the street in America know the Administration is complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Most polls show between 50 percent and 70 percent do.


Gandhi said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

<snip>

more at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_william__060808_hope_for_all_9_2f11_tr.htm


Of course, there is no way of knowing if the fear the author is seeing can be attributed to fear that gov't complicity in 9/11 will be exposed, but, it is at least a little reassuring that so many people are now talking about it. The current online CNN poll (of course, unscientific) has it at 69% vs. 31% in favor of gov't complicity, with around 25,000 respondents. There is a thread here with the link to the poll.

I wish he had provided some links to the polls he is talking about. I would like to see the results for myself.

[canetoad]

27. Have we reached the tipping point?

Often wondered if we would ever reach tipping point. The point in time when it beomes more popular to press for investigation of 911 than doggedly stand behind the official story - because it is what the masses want to hear. Has 911 truth finally begun to sell stories and become attractive to the MSM?

[Grateful for Hope]

28. I think it is possible that it is beginning to happen

Lou Dobbs is an example. I think when we begin to consistently see polls with 50% or more respondents believing that we have not been told the truth, we may have a good shot at another investigation.

[petgoat]

29. Carol Brouillet reports from California that on 8/9 when she set up an

information table outside the opening of the "World Trade Center"
movie, she got on local TV news Channel 2 (a Fox affiliate) and
channel 4 (NBC).

http://www.communitycurrency.org/9-11.html#UP

Kudos to Grand Lake Theater owner Allen Michaan for his always-courageous
hospitality to progressive and/or truth groups!

[Grateful for Hope]

30. Thanks for sharing this, PG

Using "World Trade Center" as a window of opportunity is an excellent idea. And, it is great that the TV networks gave this some coverage.

I had not seen this website before. Thank you for passing it on!

edited to add that it's interesting that the movie isn't doing very well:

The film is painful to watch. When Nicholas Cage and Oliver Stone attended a packed pre-release premiere held in San Francisco, a stunned audience failed to even clap at the end, until prodded by the studio sponsors; Cage and Stone disappeared and no one was able to question them. A free premiere in the East Bay drew a scant 80 people. At the Grand Lake Theater, where I saw it, and was invited to table in the lobby, the audience was pitifully small, and the consensus was that despite all the hype, media coverage and reviews, the film would be a box office flop.

It was not without some redeeming qualities, after all two men survived a horrific ordeal; they lived because they had one another, and something to live for- wives, children who loved and needed them.

Perhaps Stone, himself, after being crucified by the press as a “conspiracy theorist” didn’t dare to go “there” (to challenge directly the official narrative) and left the hardest work of digging the public out of the traumatizing black hole that was 9-11 to activists. The film is an opportunity for activists to do direct outreach to theater goers who care about 9-11 and hope to increase their understanding of the days’ events, but are left in the dark.

[petgoat]

36. If the movie can be taken as a metaphor for the American post-9/11

condition, it's saying:

Americans just want to endure and be with their families,
they really don't want to know what happened, heroism
is futile.

[DoYouEverWonder]

41. It's just taken five years

for a lot of people to finally be able to talk about it. I think many were still in shock and mourning for that longer. The event was that big. Now we have 5 years and Bush's horrible record and criminal behavior, that there is no longer much doubt that even if they didn't do it, they would have if they had the opportunity.

[Grateful for Hope]

31. Mods

Can you combine this thread with the like thread that was just moved into the forum?

Thanks!

[Name removed]

34. Deleted message

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[orleans]

42. jerry springer's poll basically says that 79% of their respondents

think bush was more involved w/9/11. i believe it is phrased: did george bush kill 3000 of his fellow citizens on 9/11 for political gain?

http://www.airamerica.com/springer/node/8340