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Not gullible Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 05:33 PM
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SEARS TOWER, April 19:th, NEXT?
Truly Amazing sites regarding Sears Tower and a possible staged terrorattack there April 19:th:

http://www.breakfornews.com/sears.htm

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread40528/pg1


Will we let it happen again?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 05:40 PM
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1. Hard to say
My Ouija board says "yes", but my Magic 8-Ball says "Answer Unclear".

When was the Sears Tower completed? We may need to run its astrological chart before we can be sure.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 05:52 PM
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3. But wait -
MY magic 8-ball says "Outlook Not So Good." Clearly further research is called for. Anybody have any tea leaves?
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 05:57 PM
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5. Hey, wait, MY magic 8 ball says: "Yes"
Holy shit.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 05:52 PM
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2. Who are you?
Always wondering about newbies with their profile turned off shouting about the sky falling.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 05:57 PM
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4. Since you've posted this material
in GD and now again here in 9/11, you should be made aware that this sort of material usually finds a more receptive home in the board called "The Meeting Room."
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 06:16 PM
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6. Think I'm going to Chicago on April 19
And I think I'll visit the Sears Tower. Do you have an exact time that this "attack" will happen? Not Gullible? Wrong handle.
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Not gullible Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 06:29 PM
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7. 3:26 PM
Just read the article, and there you have it to the second:

http://www.breakfornews.com/sears.htm


"Now, if you want to get REALLY serious and super technical, I'll figure out the EXACT time, but with the exact decimals.

911 minutes equals 15.1833333333333333333333333333 hours (Simply divide 911 by 60)

Now, to be precise: .18333333333 is in terms of hours, not minutes (like 15:18) so technically the time of 3:18 is off - but watch and see what the EXACT technical numbers are:

15.183333333333333333 hours is equal to 15 hours and 11 minutes, exactly.
15 hours and 11 minutes in military time is 15:11 or 3:11 PM
The Spain attacks were on 3-11.

Again, simply multiply .1833333333333333333 X 60 to calculate the 11 minutes.

911 Hours AND 911 minutes included, the exact date and time after September 11th would be 3:11 PM on 4-19-2004

3:11 PM on 4-19-2004 is exactly 911 days and 911 hours after September 11th.

But we have to include the exact seconds as well to finish out the exact time...

3:11 PM + 15.18333333333333333333333333 minutes (911 seconds) equals 3:26 PM and again, the .1833333333 turns into 11 seconds.

So, finally we have the EXACT date and time:
911 days, 911 hours, 911 minutes and 911 seconds after September 11th
is EXACTLY (to the second) 3:26:11 PM on 4-19-2004"


It says 3:26:11 PM on April 19:th...
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 06:37 PM
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8. You don't actually believe that crappola
do you? :scared:
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:13 PM
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10. Did you know?
Did you know that the bombings in Madrid were 911 days after 9-11?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:28 PM
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11. Did you know?
The winning lottery number in New York on 9/11/02...

...was 9-1-1?
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:05 PM
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12. really??
That's interesting but not comparable. :smoke:
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:17 PM
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13. Coincidence is coincidence is coincidence...
:shrug:
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:07 AM
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14. Sears Tower might be as fragile (or more so) than WTC
Better close the Sears Tower and "pull it". If it were "attacked", it would be very hard to explain it away as "just a coincidental" that the same doggone forces ("a little of this, a little of that, and maybe something new in the mix") that caused the very fragile WTC to just collapse into its footprint as though the result of a controlled demolition, caused the Sears Tower to become a huge recycling event.

Please, that kind of coincidence should only happen about once every 60 years. Try something different this time. We've had anthrax, the Federal Building in Oklahoma City (those FEMA teams must be pschic, the way they manage to show up the night before they're needed), and on and on. I'm predicting they won't trust their luck (coincidence, I mean)
by bringing down the Sears Tower. Look to the oil refineries in Texas. bush doesn't need the state to win, but if you want maximum sympathy for our Dear Leader, what better state to "hit" than his very own?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:54 PM
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15. I'll pass your concerns on.
:eyes:
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:26 PM
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21. To Hill & Knowlton?
I've always felt like you'd have good contacts.

Thanks for the offer.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. No, to File 13.
Show me your contacts and I'll show you mine.

Now that's an offer.
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:05 AM
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27. DEAL. Here's mine. Now, KEEP YOUR WORD.
Duane Lewis

Dan Purett

Bill McWilliams

Isaac Gonzalez

Henry "Coach" Powers

David Lennox

Pete Billac

Bill Wylds

Jennifer Erwin

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:25 AM
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28. Here's mine.
Space for my contacts:
___________________________________________________

*this space left intentionally blank*

___________________________________________________

I am exactly who I say I am, Abe.

I'm a local theater actor here in Nashville with ABSOLUTELY NO TIES to a public relations firm, the military, the Bush Administration, or anyone involved in committing the 9/11 attacks.

I am fully committed to seeing John Kerry become the next president of the United States.

These snide little accusations against me and my character from you and your contacts must cease immediately. Every post of yours that alludes in any way, shape, or form to my being anything other than what I am will be alerted and deleted. Do you understand that?
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:06 PM
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33. Chill, bolo.
WHAT "snide little accusations against you and your character" from me and "my contacts" are you talking about?

What exactly is it that you're accusing me of? First, it was DD. Now, me. Wassup?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:59 PM
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16. Except for one problem
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 06:17 PM by LARED
911 days after 9/11/2001 is 03/10/2004 -- a day before the Madrid bombing?
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:08 PM
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17. In Spain?
In Spain?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:11 PM
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18. The last time I checked
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 06:18 PM by LARED
Madrid is in Spain.

Did you have a question?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:43 PM
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19. i think demodewd means
madrid is about a half day ahead of us in time, could take it to 3/11.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:06 PM
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20. I'm not sure what he means
but 911 days added to 9/11/2001 takes you to 3/10/04. Spain is about 7 or so hours ahead of us so what difference can it make
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:36 PM
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22. Question
Yes I have a question. Can you discuss anything without being condescending and snide?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:43 PM
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23. Sure
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 07:48 PM by LARED
I didn't realize I was being condescending and snide. How am I supposed to know what "in spain" means?

So what's the question?

While you at it perhaps you can answer my questions from the other thread regarding the seismic activity
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:46 PM
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24. Ever heard of "good cop, bad cop"?
n/t
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:48 PM
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25. I have
what about it?
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:50 PM
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32. "What about it"?
Isn't it obvious?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:30 PM
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34. No n/t
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:38 PM
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40. to be more exact
The Madrid bombing was 911 days and 17 1/2 hours(approx) after 9-11.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:56 AM
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29. 912 days, actually.
But who's counting?

Oh, wait. Me! :D
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Not gullible Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:15 AM
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35. 911 complete days, and 911 complete hours!
Between 9/11 2001 and 3/11 2004, there was 911 complete calendar days.

(And btw, Spain is +6 hours compared with the timezone of New York and Washington)

And between 3/11 and 4/19, there is 38 complete calendar days, which makes 911 hours, since there was 1 hour daylight saving!

38x24= 912

912-1= 911
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:02 AM
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36. Not what I get, sorry.
78,796,800 seconds, 1,313,280 minutes, 21,888 hours =

912 days. :shrug:
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:50 AM
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38. correction
911 days for those in MST and PST. A six hour difference between Spain and New York.
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Not gullible Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:50 PM
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41. From 9/12 to 3/10 = 911 days!!!
From 9/12 to 3/10 = 911 days!!!

These COMPLETE days BETWEEN 9/11 and 3/11, totals 911 days!!!
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:47 AM
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37. The link says
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 10:55 AM by LARED
On a spring day in 2004, two linked events made news. The first was spectacular and horrifying. The second was surprising, irritating to some --and ominous to others. Both happened exactly 911 days after the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.



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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:59 AM
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39. Blame it on Incompetence and Negligence. No big deal.
Also, intelligence failures & bureaucratic snafus.
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 07:43 PM
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9. If at first you don't succeed
Edited on Sun Apr-11-04 08:12 PM by NecessaryOnslaught
purchase the building and try again.........

"October 1, 2001
The FBI may have thwarted an attempted terrorist attack on the Sears Tower......According to ABCNEWS, the FBI and federal agents made the discovery after arresting five people across the Midwest last week. One of the suspects was arrested in the Chicago area, three in Detroit, and a fifth person in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

The FBI found materials on the suspects that indicate they may have been planning a truck bombing on the Sears Tower. Four of the five people arrested had fraudulent licenses to drive trucks carrying hazardous materials, agents discovered. The FBI and other federal agents also seized computer disks and drawings related to the Sears Tower, according to ABCNEWS. ....ABCNEWS is sticking with its report even though the FBI has denied its validity."


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/100101_ns_searstower.html


....Same persons??

"FBI seeking 6 men seen in Midwest
BY MARTIN MERZER, CURTIS MORGAN AND LENNY SAVINO
mmerzer@herald.com

OCTOBER 3,2001 WASHINGTON -- As the nation stands on high alert, the FBI is searching for six men stopped by police in the Midwest last weekend but released -- even though they possessed photos and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and the Trans-Alaska pipeline, a senior law enforcement official said Tuesday. The Federal Aviation Administration imposed new flight restrictions around nuclear plants nationwide Tuesday, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission advised the nation's 103 nuclear plants late Monday to fortify security. On Tuesday, agency spokesmen said the FAA's flight restrictions and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's security recommendations were based on Ashcroft's general alert rather than a specific threat. Ashcroft warned that Americans could be struck by another terrorist attack this week. The incident in the Midwest apparently contributed to the new warning. The six men stopped by police were traveling in groups of three in two white sedans, said a senior law enforcement official, who requested anonymity.
SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL
In addition to the photographs and other suspicious material, they carried "box cutters and other equipment,'' the official said. They appeared to be from the Middle East and held Israeli passports. They were let go after the Immigration and Naturalization Service determined that the passports were valid and that the men had entered the United States legally, the official said. The FBI declined to comment. An INS spokesman called the report unfounded. ``We have absolutely no information at this point in time to substantiate that story,'' said the agency's Russ Bergeron. It could not be learned in what state the six men were stopped or how they aroused suspicion. It was not known whether their true identities matched those on the passports, or why the FBI was not releasing their names or descriptions. Investigators think the men almost certainly have changed cars by now and have fled to Canada or elsewhere. Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were ``furious'' that the INS allowed the men to be released without consulting the FBI, the official said. Ashcroft and Mueller appeared Monday evening at a news conference to announce that the government had ``credible'' but vague information that another wave of terrorist attacks could strike Americans within a week."


Enter urban moving systems inc.....Remember these guys? The same company whose "employees" were filming the wtc attacks from liberty state park in Jersey. HI-FIVE! mission accomplished!

October 17, 2001

"PLYMOUTH -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago.

...The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read "Moving Systems Incorporated" and included a phone number, police said.

.....Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera.

Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police."

http://www.zwire.com/site/mercury_101801.html

Well I was gonna post the link to the chicago sun times regarding the purchase of the Sears Tower by the same consortum that purchased the WTC in June 2001, but alas the story has gone down the memory hole......http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-fin-tower12.html















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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:27 AM
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30. One more attack on US soil
will demonstrate just how utterly USELESS the Busheviks are to humanity.

And if they then choose to implement the martial law they have been hinting at, I give it one short year, and then the US will turn insurgent just like Iraq.

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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:14 PM
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31. Politely disagree...(semantics)
In my opinion, the "Busheviks" will ONLY have an attack on US soil if it appears that they might lose the Presidential election and might encounter insurmountable problems if they try to steal it. To me, it does look increasingly like they WILL need an attack on US soil.

Regarding the imposition of martial law; I think it will be done in such a manner that the vast majority of people will accept it and right-wing radio habitues will vociferously condemn and slander anyone who says we live in a country where martial law has been imposed. They'll cite Lincoln's action during the Civil War, and the more aggressive ones will even cite Jeb's actions just prior to the 9-11 self-attacks. The "willing accomplices" will rationalize it all and condemn others as being unpatriotic for preferring freedom to security against foreign and domestic terrorists.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:39 PM
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42. Thanks to intrepid numerologists everywhere....
...we managed to foil yet another terrorist attack. Obviously the attention brought to these celestial events frustrated the terrorists and the attack was called off. Pat yourselves on the back, folks - job well done.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. LMAO!
Yes, you guys are amazing. America thanks you.
So what do the numbers show now? Where's and when's the next strike?
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gogu Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 05:51 AM
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43. Sears towers must have been Plan B on 9/11
Some israelis has been arrested on 9/11 filming
the Sears Towers in Chicago.
They were set free afterwards....due to the US-Israel spy agreement.

I guess this was Plan B of the 9/11 in case the WTC doesnt fall...
Military always has a plan B just in case something goes wrong.

Israelis have been arrested also in NY filming that day.

If there will be a major terrorist attack in the US, it will be only
shortly before the presidential election. Guess why ... ?

Bush is too confident about Irak right now and he should not be
the way the things are running there.

But there was never an intention of US to leave Irak, the intention is
to stay in Irak and Afhganistan. That's why the US went there, to stay, not because of Saddam. That must be clear by now to everyone.

If no arab terrorist was in charge of 9/11 is easy to assume the
most of the terrorist attacks after 9/11 are not made by arab terrorist hand either.

Take a look at the nice and clean explosions of the trains in Madrid.
It looks like military explosives, not like terrorist stuff.
I have read that the way the wagoons exploded shows the bombs were
placed under the floor and not inside the waggon in backpacks.
Cannot verify this, but the clean explosions with very few smoke and flames and burning show military high-energy explosives.

Take a look at a IRA or spanish terrorists bomb explosion to compare.

The story with the forgotten cellular in the backpack and the video tape shows clearly everything was done to manipulate
the european mass-media and governments.

The alleged terrorists have been caught withing hours, too fast.
Again, too stupid terrorists caught too fast and before nobody had any clue.

Anybody heard of cellulars used to trigger bombs so far ?
I am curious if that happened before.

To whom does is serve ?
who knows... cooperation with US against terrorism,
exchange of data for controlling people in europe, many things.

Is a part of the whole crap is happening worldwide.


Fact is that no mass-media in europe is free to say what they want either.
And the terrorist bullshit on TV and radio stations does not stop anymore. Lately the european ministers even negociate with a dead Bin-Laden, whos tape has been found on internet and has been checked by CIA. Ridiculous !

I only can laugh about this nonsens,
too bad most people believe this brain-washing crap.

I make a prediction here:
Bin Laden will be caught dead shortly before US presidential elections. He must be dead long time ago and kept in a freezer .
For his DNA indentification CIA already arrested his brush-teeth some
time ago.

Just read the US-Press with the last things about Bin-Laden and you will see that you can make predictions too.
Here is a good site for this infos on a short form:
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/oddities/2004.html

GG




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