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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:36 PM
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9/11 was an inside job
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 11:04 PM by reaper66
someone deleted this post before and I don't know why so I'm going to post it again.

If you don’t believe me that 9/11 was an inside job then here is the proof


Free online 9/11 Videos

Terrorstorm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3710767957407328313&q=terrorstorm

Martial Law 911 Rise of the Police State
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=martial+law

911 The Road to Tyranny
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358726890127819985&q=911+road

Loose Change 2nd Edition
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change


Video clips

New York firemen discuss collapse of WTC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6246148295258152003&q=WTC+collapseWTC collapse

WTC Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBL2oYdXWQ&search=WTC%20collapse

Larry Silverstein admitting that he pulled building 7. Keep in mind it takes days to wire a building for demolition. But magically they were able to do it on 9/11 in just a few hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A&search=Larry%20Silverstein

Alex Jones interviews actor Charlie Sheen who believes that the official 9/11 story is a fraud.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4559472852690653060


9/11 smoking guns

Don't believe me check out the facts for yourself

1. NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) stood down on 9/11 because they were running a drill of hijacked jets flying into the world trade center and pentagon.at the exact same time it was occurring in the real world.

2. The Twin Towers were brought down in what appeared to be a controlled demolition. When you watch video of the collapse you can see what appear to be blast points or squibs going off in a controlled fashion.

3. Jet fuel can not melt steel. Jet fuel is kerosene and only burns at 1500 degrees tops. Steal doesn't begin to weaken until after 2000 degrees of temperature, at about 2500 degrees it becomes red hot, and at 3000 degrees starts to melt. No steel building in history has ever collapsed from fire.

4. Building 7 which was never hit by a plane mysteriously collapsed later in the afternoon on 9/11. Building 7 only had a few small fires in it but it somehow collapsed. Later on a PBS documentary America Rebuilding the owner of the trade center Larry Silberstein admitted on TV that he blew up building 7

5. All of the supposed hijackers had their houses, cars, and credit cards paid for by the U.S. Government and some were living with FBI informants. They where in reality agents taking part in a drill.

6. Two months prior to 9/11 Osama Bin Ladin was treated at the American hospital in Dubai Pakistan where it has been confirmed that he met with the local head of the CIA.

7. Public officials were warned prior to 9/11 not to travel to New York. These include John Ashcroft the attorney General who stopped flying commercial citing a hijack risk. Mayor Willy Brown of San Fransisco was warned by the Whitehouse not to fly to New York on the day of 9/11. Author Salman Ruschti was warned by the FAA not to fly to New York on the day of 9/11. They even publicly banned him from flying. Oh and yes the Joint Chiefs of Staff had a scheduled meeting in New York City on the day of 9/11 but canceled their trip at the last minute.

8. Prior to 9/11 President Bush signed executive order W199i telling the FBI to back off Osama Bin Ladin and Al Qeida. He even fired agents that wouldn’t follow their orders.

9. On 9/11 there where a record number of put options placed on American and united airlines stock. A put option is a bet that a stock will fall.

10. The Bin Ladin Confession tape with the fat Bin Ladin has been proven to be a fake. The person in that tape who confessed to carrying out 9/11 was not Osama Bin Ladin.


Historical examples of government sponsored terrorism

Again don't take my word for it check out the facts yourself

1. November 27 1933, Documents uncovered from Nazi archives as well as testimonies from the Nuremberg Trials clearly admit that on the night of November 27, 1933 Adolf Hitler Burned the Reichstag Government building to the ground and blamed it on his political enemies

2. August 31, 1939: Adolf Hitler wanted to invade Poland but did not want to look like the aggressor. So the Nazis took a polish prisoner from one of the concentration camps, dress him in a polish uniform, and took him to the town of Glywits on the German Poland border and shot him. The Nazis then bombed a German radio station and blamed it on the polish saying that they had captured a dead polish solder as proof. Hitler then had his excuse to invade Poland.

3. 1953: Operation Ajax. The CIA working with Mi6 (British intelligence) overthrew the elected leader of Iran Dr. Mohammad Mosedeq. Mosedeq had been educated in the west and was pro America. Unfortunately he denied British petroleum a monopoly on Iran’s oil fields. The CIA has actually declassified most of operation Ajax detailing how they carried out terror attacks in order to blame it on mosedeq to get control of Iran’s oil fields. They brag about how they machine gunned crowds, bombed the homes of prominent religious leaders, and then distributed handbills saying "up with Mosedeq, up with communism, down Allah". Dr. Mosedeq was then incarcerated for the duration of his life for crimes that were committed by CIA and Mi6 and a new puppet government was installed.

4. 1943-1983: Operation Gladio was an umbrella name for hundreds of bombings that were carried out by western intelligence agencies and NATO all over the Middle East, Europe, and Asia, Several Italian presidents have gone public claiming that operation Gladio was targeted at innocent civilians and children and was to be blamed on communists. On November 22 1990 the European parliament passed a resolution condemning the acts of operation gladio.

5. 1964 The Gulf of Tonkin In the summer of 1964 President Lindon B. Johnson needed a pretext to commit the American people to the expanding covert war in south East Asia. So the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged claiming that Vietnamese patrol boats had attacked a U.S. destroyer off the coast of Vietnam. This staged incident paved the way for 58,000 American deaths and over 1.500.000 Vietnamese

6. 1962 Operation Northwood’s in 1962 chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff L. L. Leminser came up with a plan to stage false flag operations as a pretext to invade Cuba. The documents have now been declassified and were reported on by ABC News back in 2000. In operation nortwoods they discussed how they could stage the shoot down of airliners full of vacationing college students, stage sniper attacks in D.C. or Miami, have friendly Cubans attack the Marine Corps base at quantamino bay, or even blow up a ship like they did to get into the Spanish American war. Fortunately President Kennedy was not amused by northwoods and had Leminser removed as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

7. June 8, 1967 during the 6 day war between Israel and the Arab Nations President London B Johnson sends the U.S.S liberty to collect electronic intelligence in the eastern Mediterranean. The clearly marked U.S. ship was 14 miles off the coast of Israel in international waters. Israelis aircraft Cleary identified the ship as an American vessel and an ally. At 2:00 pm that afternoon the U.S.S. Liberty was attacked by two unmarked mirage 3 fighter bombers The U.S.S. liberty was then attacked by three Israeli torpedo boats bearing Israeli flags. The torpedo boats opened fire with high caliber machine guns and launched torpedos. The torpedo boats then began strafing life rafts in the water, an international war crime. During the attack the U.S.S. Liberty continually called the 6th fleet which was nearby begging for air support. Two groups of fighter aircraft were sent to defend the Liberty but unbelievably they were recalled by the Whitehouse. The Admiral in Command of the sixth fleet called Washington to confirm the recall order. Secretary of defense Macnimara came on the line followed by the president himself who told the Admiral "I want that G D Ship going to the bottom" Finally after 3 hours into the attack a Russian spy ship appeared so the Israeli’s withdrew because there were witnesses allowing the Liberty to limp home to safety. Here is what really took place. President Johnson had personal control over the ship, made a backroom deal with Israel to attack it with an order to kill everyone onboard. Then the attack was to be blamed on Egypt and U.S. would enter the war and take over the entire Middle East.



Credible people who have gone public and said the official story of 9/11 is a fraud.

Charlie Sheen
Prominent Actor Stared in over 100 motion pictures

Professor Steven Jones
BYU physics professor who discovered and proved that thermite charges where used to bring down the towers.

Dr. Morgan Rynals
Former chief economist for the Bush Administration

Andres Von Buelo
Former German Defense Minister

Ray McGovern
Former high level CIA anylist number 3 at the CIA who briefed both Reagan and Bush

Doctor Lt Col Bob Bowman
Vietnam Veteran, Former head of the star wars program

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
Assistant secretary of the treasury under President Reagan

Michael Meacher
Former number three man in Prime Minister Tony Blair's cabinet


9/11 Truth Websites

http://www.911truth.org
http://www.911blogger.com
http://www.st911.org
http://www.911citizenswatch.org
http://www.ny911truth.org
http://www.justicefor911.org
http://www.911inquiry.org
http://www.sf911truth.org
http://www.vt911.org
http://www.septembereleventh.org
http://www.911forthetruth.com
http://www.911truthla.us
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.911research.com
http://www.911revisited.com
http://911review.com
http://www.911eyewitness.com
http://www.v911t.org
http://911readingroom.org
http://www.911busters.com
http://www.universalseed.org/main.asp
http://www.911truthseekers.org/modules/weblog
http://www.reopen911.org
http://9eleven.info
http://911source.org
http://www.911tv.org
http://www.truth911.net
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information
http://www.truthmove.org/insight/911.html
http://physics911.net


Iraq War

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog
http://iraqblogcount.blogspot.com
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/albums.php
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com
http://healingiraq.blogspot.com
http://afamilyinbaghdad.blogspot.com
http://iraqispirit.blogspot.com
http://blog.aliraqi.org


Alternative news sites

http://www.infowars.com
http://www.prisonplanet.com
http://www.tvnewslies.org
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
http://www.propagandamatrix.com
http://www.capitolhillblue.com
http://www.therawstory.com
http://www.guerrillanews.com






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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:56 PM
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1. Hello reaper66, welcome to DU.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 10:58 PM by Make7
First, I wanted to let you know that your post was probably deleted because it has links to a couple of sites that have been deemed by the admins of this board to be inappropriate. Namely www.whatreallyhappened.com and www.rense.com.

Second, I suggest that you pick out a particular issue that you would like to discuss and post about it. This opening post has way too much information for most people to go through and respond to in a reasonable amount of time.

Third, most what you have posted has been discussed at length in this forum already. Perhaps you could just take some time to settle in and browse through some older threads to see what has already been said on the issues that you have raised.

Welcome aboard! :hi:

- Make7
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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:03 PM
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2. thanks for you help
The reason I posted so much information in one place is so people can copy it and post on other message boards, chat rooms, or send it over email. I wanted to put all of the evidence that proves that 9/11 was an inside job in one place for people to see. As for the links I don't eee what's so bad about rense.com and whatreally happened.com but I'll take them off anyway.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:14 PM
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3. Rense
deals in Holocaust denial and whatreallyhappened is a right-wing site that proved instrumental in promulgating the myth that the Clintons were involved in conspiracies to kill opponents and import drugs.

Infowars also deals in some really ridiculous shit about "Secret Illuminati Masters" that supposedly control the various powerful politicians across the globe. I'm sure they have all sorts of ridiculous bullshit on the site as well, but that's just what I picked up in about two minutes' worth of perusal.

If you want to be taken seriously recommending sites like that won't be your ticket to the big-time, to say the least.
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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:10 AM
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8. as far as those sites are concerned
I don't read whatrealyhappened.com very much but as far as infowars.com goes I have never found any false information there. Most of the stuff on ther is simply links to mainstream news articles. Their is some information on there about the masons and the illuminati but these are actual organizations. They have been proven to exist. Heck they even have photos of european royalty attending elite meetings such as the bilderberg group on that site. The Bilderberg group is real. There were tons of articles about it in canadian news papers when they met in Ottowa Canada about a month ago. They've got photos of queen beatrix of the Netherlands, as well as David Rockefeller showing up at this meating. Believe me I know it sounds crazy but it has been proven to be true. Infowars.com is one of the most relieable sources of real news on the internet. Alot of the stuff they cover on that site does sound crazy but if you really investigate it you will find out that it is true.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:56 AM
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11. So stuff like this


Fascinated by symbolism and numerology, the globalists' favorite tactic is to leave blueprints to their plans "hidden in plain view." From messages delivered to the masses through the media and films to Time Warner's all-seeing eye, we are repeatedly reminded by the illuminati themselves that they are controlling us and are omnipresent. World leaders from Clinton to Prince William have been photographed proudly flashing the sign of the devil. Architecture around the globe is laid out to represent their occult icons or structured based on occult numerology (like the pyramid Mitterand had constructed at the Louvre, which is made of 666 pieces of gold glass).

If I investigate that I'll find out *that's* true, eh? Infowars has 'whackjob' written all over it.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:14 PM
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4. Have you thought about using a website to collect and store information?
You can update it as new things comes to light and then just give people a link and suggest that they copy and paste it's contents into emails, message boards, etc.

If you're interested, there are many places to get free webspace. Yahoo has a section called GeoCities that makes it pretty easy to set up a site.

Just a thought.

- Make7
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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:55 PM
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6. yes I have thought about a website
Bus their's no need to set up one because they're are littery hundreds of thousands 9/11 sites on the internet.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:07 AM
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7. I wasn't thinking a finished professional looking website.
Just a single page that collects all the information in your opening post that looks exactly like it as well. Not pretty, just text and links. Then you could easily have other people use that page to start emails and posts on internet forums.

I was thinking it would be a way you could keep your info up to date and make it easy to share with others. I just thought I'd throw the idea out there to see if you thought it might be useful.

- Make7
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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:12 AM
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9. thanks for your help
but I've got a blog I use to do that. All the stuff I posted on here is posted on my blog.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:15 AM
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10. Okay, you've already got it covered. ( n/t )
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:53 AM
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13. Care to share the address of your blog?
I don't see it in your profile.
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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:19 AM
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14. www.911blog.blogspot.com
also www.war-on-tyranny.blogspot.com
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:42 AM
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15. So, DU is just another place to target with the viral campaign?
"people will log onto their favorate message board or chat room and see thousands of posts exposing the truth." -reaper66

"we pick one week, one week where everyone who knows the truth about 9/11 gets on the internet and overruns political message boards, newsgroups, chat rooms, email lists," -reaper66

"There are litterly hundreds of thousands of message boards and chat rooms on the internet. Here is a list of some places to target. please tell everyone you know to post as many messages on as many boards and chat rooms as posible." -reaper66

I'd point some of the many factual errors in your original post, but I don't get the impression that you're interested in discussing them.
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Uppanotch Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:47 AM
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16. Sounds like something a PR firm would "cook up", doesn't it?

Spreading information and opinions with an eye towards influencing opinion leaders is done every day.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:58 AM
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17. Yeah bud, a little bit. nt
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 03:26 PM
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19. There's nothing wrong with networking
and spreading your message. Rove & Co does it 24/7. Something must be done to offset that.

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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:31 PM
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5. All the Proof You Need!
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:45 AM
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12. well im saving it
before its deleted.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 02:59 PM
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18. This definitely
should have wide exposure!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 07:02 PM
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20. WOW!! Great Resources!! These are SUPER !!
I have seen afew here but now I have a nice package to wrap and email to all my buds !!
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OldSiouxWarrior Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:02 PM
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21. You have a factual error about steel.
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 08:09 PM by OldSiouxWarrior
You said:

3. Jet fuel can not melt steel. Jet fuel is kerosene and only burns at 1500 degrees tops. Steal doesn't begin to weaken until after 2000 degrees of temperature,...

That isn't true. At 600C, about 1112F, steel loses over half it's strength. Quoting from National Institute of Standards and Technology, Materials Science and Engineering Laboratory, Metallurgy Division, Link: http://www.metallurgy.nist.gov/techactv2005/ar2005_safety.html#wtc

Quote: All steels lose strength with increasing temperature. By 600 °C, most structural steels have lost more than half their strength.

I hope you will understand that I choose to believe genuine experts.

I am not commenting, in this post, about any other aspect of MIHOP, LIHOP theories. My comment is purely about what happens to steel at what temperatures.
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