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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:15 AM
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Bin Laden's inspiration
Yasser Arafat was the godfather of international terrorism who dashed his people's hope for statehood, stole billions of dollars intended for the relief of their suffering, and indoctrinated their children with so much hatred that they willingly turned themselves into human bombs.

He did manage to leapfrog the Palestinian cause over equally or more deserving causes – such as Tibetan freedom, Kurdish independence, and Basque statehood – by wielding three immoral weapons: first, international terrorism on a scale previously unknown to the world; second, an alliance with oil-rich states willing to extort support for his cause by energy blackmail; and third, exploitation of international anti-Semitism against the Jewish state.

Arafat was personally responsible for the murders of thousands of innocent Israelis, hundreds of innocent Americans, and countless others. Like other ethnically motivated butchers before him, he delighted in killing Jewish children, as he did in several well-planned attacks on Israeli schools and nurseries. He also personally ordered the murder of hundreds of his own people who disagreed with him or collaborated with Israel. Never a man to tolerate dissent, he employed bullets rather than arguments to respond to his critics.

Arafat was the inspiration for Osama bin Laden, because he proved to his eager student that terrorism works and that terrorists can be praised and rewarded by a craven world, as Arafat was by so many for so long.


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1100239529068

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Dersh nailed it.



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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:25 AM
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1. Hardcore Israeli propaganda.
Even Israeli moderates don't buy this foaming-at-the-mouth lecturing spittle. Which, as Martha Stewart would say, "is a good thing".

I'm sorry I hit the link to read it...two minutes of my life I won't be getting back.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:44 AM
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2. nine23 nails it!
:thumbsup:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:55 AM
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3. Yup, it's a complete load of bullshit.
Only someone abysmally ignorant of fact would buy into it.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:53 AM
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5. Eh, at least it's different.
But a singularly boneheaded argument, you are right about that.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:08 AM
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6. "Gee...I dunno wha Ah wuz dinkin"
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:16 AM by drdon326
i'm fascinated by your characterization as a "boneheaded argument".

What specifically made you say that?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:50 AM
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 12:54 PM
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8. That Arafat was a seminal figure in international terrorism,
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 12:54 PM by bemildred
and that OBL would have been inspired by or have looked up to him in
any way. It's even dumber than the Saddam-OBL connection. There is
nothing new at all in Arafat's activities, and OBL would have viewed
both he and Saddam with contempt.

http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?control=887
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=112

Unfortunately the Sprinzak article is no longer freely available.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 01:28 PM
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9. I re-read the article.....
I didnt see him categorize him as a "seminal figure". He did say that
arafat took terrorism to another level.

As for OBL, while OBL may not have "looked-up" to arafat, the lesson of acceptance of terrorism in the world stage probably did not go unnoticed by obl.

"Arafat was the inspiration for Osama bin Laden, because he proved to his eager student that terrorism works and that terrorists can be praised and rewarded by a craven world, as Arafat was by so many for so long."

Did obl not notice a standing ovation of arafat at the UN?

Did obl not notice the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE?

Did obl not notice the amount of money given arafat ??

I'm sure he did. Quite a lesson.


Thank you for responding.




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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:03 PM
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10. I'm not interested in arguing, Doctor.
Just offering my POV at your request.

I don't see the slightest evidence that OBL cares about any of those
things, and what the article says is all ill-founded conjecture about
what is inside OBLs head. But opinions will vary, and there is nothing
new in the fact that I disagree with Mr. Dershowitz.

You are welcome.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:38 PM
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11. HUH ? ..........Who's arguing ??
I wanted your point of view. Sheeeesh

Its SATURDAY.....we dont argue on Saturday.B-)


ITS ALL GOOD.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:08 PM
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12. Well good.
I'm glad you're not being touchy today.
:-)
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:46 PM
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13. "Hardcore Israeli propaganda."
sums up my opinion ....:smoke:
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:43 AM
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4. And, of course, Tibetan freedom, Kurdish independence...
and Basque statehood were very prominent causes before Palestinian statehood "leapfrogged" over them....

More attention directed at any national liberation movement is a good thing.

The "oil-rich" Arab states don't care in the slightest about the Palestinians, though admittedly massive popular pressure has gotten them to do minimal things. And Arab oil does not belong to the US, contrary to popular belief; they have the right to sell their oil as they see fit.

Yasser Arafat is not the "godfather" of international terrorism; there has been international terrorism ever since there were two areas worthy of calling themselves nations....
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:48 PM
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14. makes for a fine antidote to the...
hardcore 'Arafat is the 8th wonder of the world' propaganda...
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