Arab League to condemn attacks against Israelis

[Gimel]

Arab leaders meeting in Tunisia Saturday for a summit on political reform and the Arab-Israeli conflict are expected to adopt a resolution condemning attacks against both Israeli and Palestinian civilians.

If the resolution is passed, it will be the first formal condemnation of Palestinian suicide attacks against Israelis in the Arab world.

PA Chairman Yasser Arafat, confined to his Ramallah headquarters, spoke to Arab leaders by video link. "By God's will, we will all pray together in Jerusalem," Arafat told the delegates.

Arafat, who was holed up in his West Bank headquarters fearing Israel may bar him from returning, addressed the conference for the third year via video from Ramallah. He accused Israel of waging a "war of annihilation" against the Palestinian people but reiterated that the Palestinians were committed to "the peace of the brave" with Israel and that negotiations based on international resolutions, the Arab peace initiative and the US-backed "road map" were the way to achieve this.

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I think they've beat the UN to it.

[Gimel]

1. Hold everything!

The resolution hasn't passed yet. A suicide bomber tried to get into Israel today. It's the old pattern. Probably to disrupt the voting. Condemnation of Israel on the rise.

[drdon326]

2. Wanna bet ??

I bet they dont pass that resolution.

I hope i'm wrong.

[Gimel]

3. It passed

They want a new face:

Arab leaders concluded a two-day summit in Tunis on Sunday with a general statement condemning violence against civilians - both Israeli and Palestinian.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/430980.html

They accept the possibility, it seems that Israelis are not the vile creatures they have lead the world to believe. Could it be?

[drdon326]

4. Listen....

I'm just thrilled they actually used the word "Israel"
instead of "THAT ZIONIST ENTITY" with people who are
"descendants of dogs and pigs".

[Classical_Liberal]

5. Do you consider this a bad thing?

?

[Gimel]

6. It is a good thing

However, it is, unfortunately, only cosmetic. It is the result of a compromise with the US to tone down approach to reform in the Arab nations. In exchange for a less aggressive approach to implementing democracy in the Arab world, the Arab nations will recognize Israel's right to exist. While only 16 of the 22 members of the League took part in the conference, and some of those walked out, it is a move in the right direction. Change won't happen overnight, unfortunately. It remains to be seen if the Arab members of the UN will support a similar resolution. It's about time the UN stops trying to negate the creation of the State of Israel. More than 56 years after the UN announced Israel as a created national state, which the Arabs rejected for themselves,they have been trying to force a reversal of that resolution on the world.

[Violet_Crumble]

7. The UN is trying to negate the creation of Israel?

What bulltwaddle. Speaking out about Israel's atrocious treatment of the Palestinian people or quite rightly supporting the creation of a Palestinian state (something Israel has done it's damndest to stop happening) does not equal trying to negate the creation of Israel....

Violet...

[Gimel]

8. The "they" refers to

the Arab block in the UN. The UN as a whole is only as good as the sum of its parts.

[Violet_Crumble]

9. Since when has the vast majority of members been 'the Arab block'?

If you went and took a look at a bunch of resolutions, you'd find the only states that vote against them are the US, Israel, and a few pissy tiny little South Pacific islands and other tiny states beholden to the US for their survival. Every other states votes for the resolutions, though a handful of gutless wonders play it safe by abstaining...

You haven't explained how UN resolutions are trying to undo the creation of Israel, btw...

Violet...

[Gimel]

11. Experience

I should think you should be able to figure that out on your own. If not, I'm sure all my explanations won't help.

In the case that I posted where the GA voted to pass a resolution condemning Israel, the European nations (EU) abstained. There were 54 abstentions. There was only 40% vote. There were more abstentions than there were votes favoring the resolution.

Arabs, who had repeatedly but unsuccessfully tried to get the Security Council adopt such a resolution, had settled on the second best option to put their views on record though in practical terms it has little value.

The Arabs had originally drafted a very tough resolution accusing Israel of committing war crimes but watered down the language to win support especially from the Europeans which could have somewhat isolated the United States.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=56620

Their efforts are relentless in this effort, and slowly they have made progress toward the goal, founding a moment when the situation (which was orchestrated with an intense propaganda effort and media blitz)was conducive to try and get Israel condemned.

(This is the second time I've posted this page, which leads me to the suspicion that you don't read the references that I post in responding to your accusations.)

[Violet_Crumble]

19. Experience in what?

Experience tells you that the vast majority of the membership of the UN is a vast Ayrab conspiracy out to destroy Never-Does-A-Thing-Wrong Israel? Or does experience and in-depth knowledge of UN resolutions show you that while these resolutions are concering Israel's continued flagrant violations of international law, they're really cleverly disguised and quite petty little whines aimed at destroying Israel?

I'm not sure what you think yr proving by pointing to ONE GA Resolution from a year or so back, when I suggested you go and read not just a bunch of Resolutions, but the UN Press Release that accompanies them, which lists the vote of each member state. I didn't suggest you post a link to some pointless article that speaks of one GA Resolution amongst many (shucks. That blows yr suspicion that I didn't read the link, though I'm the first to admit I don't waste my time clicking on links to effluent like Free Republic that get posted)....

Gimel, to be blunt, there doesn't need to be any propaganda blitz in order for people to believe that Israel is doing the wrong thing. Sorry, but when these Resolutions involve continued grave violations of human rights and international law, they stand on their own and don't need any help at all. Why? Do you honestly think Israel hasn't done anything worthy of earning international criticism? That concern for the plight of the Palestinian people equals a desire to destroy Israel?

Violet...

[Classical_Liberal]

10. It isn't in the interest of Israel to have more democracy in the

middle east anyway, particularly in Saudi Arabia where he people are more hostile than the Sauds, and the other oil states. They would threaten America with oil and that isn't good for you. Chastizing Israel for it's stubborness on the Palestinian state doesn't undo its creation.

[Gimel]

12. "Chastizing Israel for it's stubborness "

Well of course, if that were the case, I would agree with you. The fact is, Israel has been prepared to allow for the Palestinian state for 10 years now.

However, the Palestinian envision this as making Israel weak so that they can replace the Jewish state.

They are using means and are trashing every human rights in the process. Unfortunately, many close their eyes to this darkness in the Palestinian society.

[Forkboy]

13. Which side are we talking about again?

They are using means and are trashing every human rights in the process.

[Gimel]

14. Right

the Palestinians get it from both Arafat and the IDF. They are the victims. Israelis are also victims, but the Palestinians more so.

[Classical_Liberal]

16. The PA has recognized Israel since Oslo

The UN isn't doing anything to harm Israel. Israel just won't stop the damned settlements.

[Cusp]

17. They are working on it

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/431052.html

These thousands of settlers will need somewhere to go, so they want to do a trial run of four settlements first. Its a start.

And I would like to applaud the Arab summit for progressing towards peace. I have long thought that before Israel could reasonably give up Gaza and the West Bank, it would require a show of good faith by it's neighbors, that Israel's "right to exist" would indeed be acknowledged. Perhaps both sides can meet in the middle finally.

And why is Gimel still getting harassed about this? She started this thread, obviously she's happy about the implications, and she just said that Palestinians are the most victimized by the conflict (thereby having the most to gain from peace and withdrawal).

[Classical_Liberal]

18. He isn't doing it as a trail run

It only applies to Gaza. He wants to resettle them on the West Bank and has stated this several times. Gimel isn't getting harrassed. She expressed dissappointment in it as well, and that was in conversations with Dr Don.

[geek tragedy]

15. The Arab League

has been one of the most dismally unsuccessful enterprises in human history. Which is no surprise, given that its constituent members have all failed their people.

But, this is an encouraging sign. I'll be more encouraged when they address the real problems facing people in Cairo, Damascus, and Algiers.