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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:39 AM
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Hamas: Sharon has opened the gates of hell
Hamas leaders vowed Monday to "cut off" the head of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, after their spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was killed in a missile strike by Israeli helicopter gunships in Gaza City.

"Sharon has opened the gates of hell and nothing will stop us from cutting off his head," leaders of the radical Islamic group vowed.

"Words cannot describe the emotion of anger and hate inside our hearts," said Hamas official Ismail Haniyeh, a close associate of Yassin in Gaza. He said that "the enemy should expect a response that will turn the ground under his feet to hell."

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:48 AM
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1. I think Bush and Sharon WANT the gates of hell opened
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 12:49 AM by seventhson
after all, their best ally is from there.

As much as this Hamas leader may have been despicable, he was an invalid in a wheelchair and should have been arrested and tried - not summarily executed.

Is there no rule of law unbder Sharon?

I guess since Sharon's cronies killed their own peace leader Rabin we shouldn't expect any better.

But this will only make things MUCH worse.

Exactly what Bush and Sharon desire.

I call it necrophilic, this lust for blood and hate.

And suicidal for the people of Israel/Palestine.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 03:46 AM
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13. Summarily executed by missile, no less.
That's sure a "targeted assassination" for you - minded you don't give a fuck about the innocents in the building or in the street.

And the violence is about to get so much worse for both sides. Why can't both sides just throw off their leaders who clearly don't want peace! Most Palestinians and Israelis just want to live in peace - it's the extremists and their respective government backers that enable this carnage to go on and on and on...

This is not good news for anyone, even that fascist Sharon. This is a move he may live to regret.

God, I feel so badly for the innocent Israelis and Palestinians who will suffer because of this. :(

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:03 AM
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2. israel set-up hamas
to counter arafat,now they killed yassin..yassin is a member of the brotherhood ...the fuck`n gates of hell has opened up. sharon is insane.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 04:51 AM
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16. I knew
there'd be one of these. Israel did not "set up" Hamas. There was an attempt to infiltrate, and some funds were used in that undercover operation.

The devout Hamas is without a leader. That can only cause their disruption and lead to their weakening in the long haul. Now they have sympathy, but public opinion changes with the weather.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:30 AM
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23. Or, for the more honest version
Even being stated today, in big letters in Ma'ariv:

In the 1970s, after becoming a Moslem cleric, Yasin founded a branch of the Islamic Brotherhood in the Gaza Strip, which was mostly involved in welfare activities and was approved by Israel, as a legal organization. Israeli authorities then considered the Moslem group as a possible counterbalance for Yasser Arafat's secular-nationalist PLO, which was thought to be the greater threat. When the first intifada began in 1987, Yasin's organization was reincarnated as Hamas.

As usual, Israel considered conservative nationalists who were prepared to recognise and normalise relations with Israel a "threat", and Islamic lunatics not. Clever.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 02:55 PM
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25. That's another issue
There is no indication by what you quoted that Israel was actively involved in "funding" or "creating" Hamas, as has been widely claimed on this forum.

If Israel encouraged or ignored the Islamic Brotherhood is not quite the same as "creating" or "funding", in my opinion.

I don't see your quote as being "more honest", you've just chosen another phase in the history of the Islamic Brotherhood, which became Hamas in 1986.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 03:22 PM
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26. "Widely claimed"
Perhaps, but not by me.
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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 03:54 AM
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14. well ..you have made an immediate impression on me
welcome to I/P baclava
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 04:57 AM
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17. Good point
Yassin never wanted to "compromise". His only deal would have been to put Israel under his foot.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:24 AM
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4. Of course Hamas is in big trouble
If they don't kill a great many innocent Israelis now, their credibility will be shot.
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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:32 AM
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5. I think it will be hard to predict what will happen from here on out
I just have a feeling that the future will not look pretty.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:37 AM
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6. My guess is ...
...they are going to get really mad, and move from 12 year olds in backpacks filled with explosives, to 8 month olds with baby-bottles filled with explosives.
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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:49 AM
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9. and then Sharon will retaliate
and attempt to kill Palestinians who they view as threats, maybe kill some "collateral damage" in the way.

Maybe there will be some special element to this, I don't know. All I know is that the cycle will continue, suicide bombers will keep on doing what they always do, and Sharon will continue to send "Peace" tanks and "Peace" missles into the Palestinian areas.

It is sheer madness if you ask me.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 02:06 AM
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12. I fear you're right...
There will be bombings out the ying-yang now. They had it rough before, it will just get worse.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:46 AM
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8. the muslim brotherhood
is threating to take "actions" against any arab country who has dealings with israel.pandora`s box has opened again...
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Blayde Starrfyre Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:42 AM
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7. The result is easy to predict
Anyone can predict how this will go. Palestinians will get pissed. They will perpetrate suicide bombings. Sharon and the IDF will react by killing three times as many Palestinians as has happened all along. There is no point in attempting a "kill the head and the body dies" strategy with Palestine. The problem with resistance in an occupied land is that it is grass roots. Thus murdering the leaders, without trial or justice, will only increase suicide bombings. I do not believe Palestinian resistance will stop until there is a fair agreement or until they are all dead.

Judging by this latest action, we have seen the route Sharon desires.
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 02:00 AM
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10. gates of hell redux...
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 02:02 AM by cantwealljustgetalon

PALESTINIAN 'KILLED BY AN ISRAELI BOOBY TRAP'
25 June 2001
Palestinians, who acknowledged that Jawabri had taken part in recent attacks on Jewish settlers and inside Israel, blamed Israel for his death. Marwan Barghouti, the West Bank commander of Fatah's Tanzim militia, warned: "With this assassination, Sharon has opened the gates of Hell for the Israeli occupation."
http://www.palestinecampaign.org/archives.asp?xid=116


Hiking up the price
16 - 22 August 2001
Against such a battering, the PA resembled a boxer who knows neither what has hit him nor where the next blow is coming from. After the closure of institutions in East Jerusalem, Palestinian Speaker Ahmed Qrei declared there would be no talks on a "cease-fire" or anything else until Israel re-opened Orient House. After Israel's actual incursion into Jenin and threatened invasion of Beit Jala, the PLO formally requested a meeting of the UN Security Council to dispatch an "international protection force" to the occupied territories; meanwhile, PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat warned that, by these actions, Israel "has opened the gates of hell."
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2001/547/fr1.htm


ZE'EVI ASSASSINATION AND ITS POSSIBLE AFTERMATH
October 17, 2001
PFLP spokesman Ali Jaradat was detained in the aftermath of the killing, but was immediately released. He subsequently gave an interview on Al-Manar Hizbullah satellite television, and reportedly said that the PFLP will continue to avenge the death of Mustafa. Jaradat said after the killing of Mustafa that the Israeli government "has opened the gates of hell on itself and now the fire is approaching it."
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/watch/Peacewatch/peacewatch2001/347.htm


Israelis to try seized leader for murder
(Filed: 17/04/2002)
"We tell Sharon and his government: you have opened the gates of hell for yourself by your arrest of this national leader, and you have made yourselves legitimate targets to be killed," it said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/04/17/wmid17.xml



'Gates of Hell' threat sparks Israeli alert
By David Blair in Jerusalem
(Filed: 08/09/2003)
Israel and the Palestinians were braced last night for a spiral of bloodshed after Ariel Sharon, the prime minister, called the Hamas leadership "marked men" and the terrorist group said the Holy Land was entering the "gates of Hell".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/09/08/wmid08.xml


Israel braces for 'gates of hell' revenge attack
September 7, 2003
Just hours later, an Israeli warplane dropped a 250kg bomb on a Gaza City apartment in a botched attempt to kill several top Hamas leaders, including the Islamic militant group's founder, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, who escaped with a minor injury. Hamas threatened bloody revenge, saying Israel had "opened the gates of hell" with its attack on the widely revered Yassin.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/07/1062549073635.html

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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 02:01 AM
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11. IG somewhere else makes the point
"He (Yassin) is now a martyr and there is no one on the Hamas side that can call off the dogs of war, and there is no one else left on the Palestinian side that would dare sue for peace with Israel."

Which is a good point.

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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 04:42 AM
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15. A very good point.
n/t
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:14 AM
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18. As though Yassin was interested
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:14 AM by Gimel
in "calling off the dogs of war". That was his last, non-existent response.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:40 AM
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22. I don't agree
Unfortunately, somebody else will get hold of Hamas and send suicide bombers forth. That person will be able to call off the dogs of war.

If Sharon thinks this is going to break the Palestinian resistance, then he is sadly mistaken. As long as the Israelis continue to abuse their power as the occupying authority in the West Bank and Gaza, the Palestinians will continue to resist.

Likewise, the Palestinian militants could literally cut off Sharon's head and it won't make a dent in the violence. As long as the Palestinians target civilians, the Israelis will strike back.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:22 AM
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19. It serves
both Sharon and Hamas to perpetuate the cycle of violence and today just proves that. This assasination will not solve anything - other than swelling the ranks of Hamas recruits. By contrast, those who actually want peace and are prepared for the difficult compromises required to achieve it are once again being silenced by exteremists on both sides...

V
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:26 AM
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20. I wonder what icon will have more repetitions in Sharon's...
..."Conservative Idiots" slot next week?

Dumb or Warmongering? You decide.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:28 AM
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21. Sharon knows
exactly what he is doing. Warmongering would be about right...

V
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:43 AM
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24. The gates of hell...
have been swinging open on rusty hinges for quite a while now. Are they just now noticing that?
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