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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:25 PM
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Suicide bomber's family is proud

The family members of the Palestinian suicide bomber who carried out Thursday's attack in Jerusalem said they are proud of their son. The terrorist's father, Munir Ja'arah, described the bombing as a "heroic operation," and said the family supports his son's decision to launch the attack.

"My son is a hero and we are proud of what he did," said Ja'arah, who lives in the Dehaishe refugee camp near Bethlehem. "The crimes of the Israeli occupation push young Palestinians to carry out such attacks."

He was speaking as scores of Palestinians arrived at his home to "congratulate" him on the "martyrdom" of his son, Ali. Neighbors said that as soon as the bomber's identity was announced many local residents took to the streets to express their joy.

"This is a natural response to Israel's massacres, especially the killing of nine Palestinians in Gaza City a day earlier," said local resident Salah Odeh. "The people here are very happy to hear the good news. The Palestinian people support this attack and want to see more like it."

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A policeman that murders. His family is proud. Palestinians want to see more? Oh, my.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:26 PM
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1. Disgusting....
Atrocities do not justify atrocities. These people need to learn this.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:27 PM
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2. Yeah, they should just shut up and die quietly...
:eyes:
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:28 PM
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3. no...but they should quit killing women and children...eom
.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:29 PM
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4. so should the IDF
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:34 PM
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7. Absolutely. No nation should lift a finger when attacked by terrorists.
Definitely. Just sit there and take it. Okay, go to the funerals. But then sit there and take it.

Palestinians plan to stop killing women and children? Just asking.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:38 PM
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9. Both sides need to stop.
That includes Palestinians.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:42 PM
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13. Disengagement
This is why I support disengagement. No Palestinians should be allowed to enter Israel under ANY circumstances. That is, until the Palestinians themselves decide to stop the terror.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:04 AM
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17. Does that mean the Israelis should be banned from the occupied areas?
I don't think you mean real "disengagement." You wouldn't have the settlers go back to Israel and leave the occupied areas.

I think these debates over Israel/Palestine are pretty futile. We all have very set conceptions as to what is going on here. Many here support the occupation, others think Israel should adhere to international law.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:39 AM
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19. International law
I love how folks whip that out when it is convenient but not the rest of the time. Well, the Arab nations should have adhered to international law in 1948 but they didn't and set all of this in motion. The ARAB nations shouldn't have ethnically cleansed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Jews.

International law only seems to apply to Israel. How convenient.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:59 AM
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20. No, it applied then too.
It is absolutely true that the Arab nations violated it when they carried out pogroms in the past--you are right and I certainly will not deny it. This does not excuse the occupation though, in my opinion. It is likewise "convenient" if Israel chooses to exclude itself from international law and conventions concerning weapons of mass destruction, and then point to the violations of its neighbors. I'm not "anti-Israel" by the way. I do think that Israel should withdraw to the "green line" and remove all settlements, in exchange for a security agreement backed with international force. Its neighbors must not remain bases for attacks against Israel under such circumstances, but a Palestinian state must be as sovereign as is the Israeli state.

The only other solution is deportating the Palestinians, or creating a unitary Hebrew/Arab state encompassing the occupied territories, making citizens of the currrent residents. It's in the Likud platform, I think.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:18 PM
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21. Solutions
Israel is the only state with any claim to that territory. Until there is a signed peace agreement that actually grants Israel peace, then those borders are unofficial.

Israel is an unusual case with regard to WMD. It is surrounded, outnumbered and under constant attack. The only guarantee it has of longterm survival are its weapons.

I agree that, longterm, a Palestinian state should not be a bantustan. It should be a full member of the world of nations. Then, if it fails to abide by its agreements, it will face real war.

The solution I support is peace. Funny thing is, Israel has made peace with Jordan and Egypt because they offered peace in return. The Palestinians have never done so.
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:05 PM
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14. WWJD?
Turn the other cheek, that's what...

O8)

:loveya:

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:40 PM
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11. IDF is hunting down terrorists. They kill civilians because terrorists
hide among them.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:06 PM
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15. Oh
and by that logic, Palestinian militants kill Israeli civilians because IDF soldiers hide among them

:crazy:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:32 AM
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18. Except that they're not really trying to kill soldiers.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:32 PM
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5. Of course not. Murdering loudly is a much more fun option.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 06:32 PM by aquart
GREAT leaders have been known to use peaceful options like civil disobedience, but why bother when you can kill off a young generation which is significantly under-employed because no one, not fellow arabs or fellow Muslims, no one will invest in their future because of their nasty habit of destroying everything in a fit of pique.

I do like the way you equate murder and free speech. Really really impressive.

Do we have enough graves now? Can we call it even and quit?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:40 PM
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10. That is preferable...
to them slaughtering innocent civilians on busses.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:34 PM
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6. I am happy this bastard died as well
I'm just sorry that he took innocents with him.

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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:35 PM
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8. And on the TV
I see cheering for the Bush war on Iraq.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:41 PM
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12. Someone once wrote an article about this and they said the difference
between when the time the cameras roll and when they don't is amazing.
The families give solidarity with their dead child to the public but they speak privately of their despair and loss and show it in private. They love their children too but they give a solid front to the world. Many of them have expressed their dismay that they would do this but not to the outside world.
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LostInTheMaise Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:55 AM
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16. Proud of a policeman that targets innocent women and children?
I'd argue that this family is suffering from excessive hate and lack of vision. Aiming at and killing women and children is something that should be scorned and not praised. This family has no soul or if they do it is as black as coal and worthless. They should hide in shame for praising the needless death of innocent women and children.
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