Mother, three children wounded in Jerusalem terror attack

[drdon326]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1059884679528

Four Israelis, a mother and three children were wounded when shots were fired at their vehicle near Wallajeh, close to the western entrance to the Har Gilo neighborhood on Sunday evening. The attack occurred just hours after the government announced its intention to release 430 Palestinian security prisoners. The family was traveling on the Wallajeh bypass road that links Gush Etzion to south Jerusalem not far from the Malha Mall and the Technological Gardens.

Magen David Adom official Zaki Heller said crews sent to the site treated a 39-year-old woman suffering from a gunshot wound to the chest and her 9-year-old daughter, who suffered a gunshot wound to the leg.

The two, whose conditions were described as serious to moderate, were transferred to Hadassah Hospital in Ein Kerem.

Two other children, a 14-year-old girl and her twelve-year-old brother, were treated at the site. The teenager was later transferred to hospital.

Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the shooting in a phone call to The Associated Press.
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al-aqsa MURDERS brigade...doing what they do best.

[Darranar]

1. Hmm...

This should be another headline:

Mother, Three Children Starving as a Result of West Bank Terrorist Wall

Don't get me wrong; I condemn this attack, despite the fact that it was targeted at settlers. I also condemn the construction of an enormous wall on the territory of the Palestinians.

[bemildred]

2. Yeah, I condemn this too.

Stupid bastards should not shoot women and children.
Any of the stupid bastards.
Any of the women and children.
It's good he was a lousy shot.
I hope they catch him.

[drdon326]

3. bemildred

allow me ask you a question

if the terrorists attacks continue and the
PA/PLO do NOT do what they promised to do and
"DISMANTLE" these thugs, what do you think Israel
response to these attacks should be??

[bemildred]

6. They did not promise to dismantle these thugs.

They have said repeatedly that they will work to stop the
violence, but they will not go to war with their own people,
as that would be a stupid an fruitless enterprise.

Although, in the end they will have to, you can't have these
sorts of gangs running around in a sovereign state.

Israel should do everything in its power to help Abbas, IMHO,
regardless of what these thugs do, unless it is happy with the
present situation.

Edit: happy with the intifada.

[drdon326]

8. uhhhh....

actually they DID promise to dismantle them
when they said they fully accepted the "road-map".

[bemildred]

9. OK.

Enjoy the intifada.

[drdon326]

10. OK

Enjoy the anti-Intifada security barrier.

[Darranar]

11. "SECURITY BARRIER?"

WHAT A LOAD OF SHARONIC PROPAGANDA! Call it what it is, which is an inhumanitarian wall!

On edit: Sorry for the caps. I was a tad bit angry...

[drdon326]

15. OK.

it's an inhumanitarian wall to prevent inhumanitarian suicide bombers from murdering innocent civilians inhumanitarily...

Hows that??

[Darranar]

17. It doesn't need to be humanitarian to serve its purpose...

It can be built on the Green Line, and we can have a permanent solution to this-it's called Peace. P-E-A-C-E.

[drdon326]

19. Beautiful words...

there will be P-E-A-C-E when there no

suicide T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-T-S !!

[Darranar]

20. There will be...

P-E-A-C-E when the vast majority of the S-E-T-T-L-E-M-E-N-T-S are removed and the Palestinians get a S-T-A-T-E! In addition to that, the Palestinians do need to enter a security cooperation treaty with the Israelis so terrorists on both sides can be quickly apprehended.

[bemildred]

21. Well, actually, he's quite correct.

There will be peace when there are no suicide terrorists.
The question is, how do you bring that about?

[Darranar]

22. He is...

I wasn't disputing that. The fact is, however, that there's a lot more to it-expecially what I outlined above.

[bemildred]

27. Well duh?

I know, just pointing it out.
:thumbsup:

[drdon326]

29. LOL

Like you said bemildred...

(im paraphrasing)

"everyone can be right once in a while."

[bemildred]

30. "even the repukes can be right twice a day"

A mixed metaphor.

[drdon326]

31. Damn...

i'll get that right someday.lol

have a good night.

[Muddleoftheroad]

36. The Green Line

Has not been established as a formal border between Israel and a theoretical Palestinian state. You can thank Arafat's rejection of various peace plans for that one.

Nor will ALL of the pre-1967 land ever end up in Palestinian hands. So the questions are, how much land will the Palestinians get and which land. The longer they wait to settle on peace, the more those questions are decided for them.

[tinnypriv]

39. No, but beyond the Green Line ISN'T ISRAEL

So it has no right to take the land, peace deal or not. Fact.

[Muddleoftheroad]

40. There we disagree

Especially on Jerusalem, which is the historic capital of Israel.

[Violet_Crumble]

45. But tinnypriv has the facts on his side...

Tinnypriv's totally correct when he points out that beyond the Green Line isn't Israel. I guess for anyone to argue otherwise, they'd have to ignore international law and rely on all sorts of religious mumbo-jumbo and 'historical' claims so favoured by conservatives dating back thousands of years when it comes to Jerusalem....

So why do you see the West Bank as being part of Israel? Is it a Might Makes Right 'they conquered it, so they get it' kind of thing?

Violet...

[bemildred]

16. Yep.

Everything is just fine.

[bemildred]

41. The "road map" uses the word dismantle twice.

I checked it on both Jewish and Palestinian propaganda sites
to be sure. Both are in the Phase one section.

Security:


* Rebuilt and refocused Palestinian Authority security apparatus begins
sustained, targeted, and effective operations aimed at confronting all those
engaged in terror and dismantlement of terrorist capabilities and infrastructure.
This includes commencing confiscation of illegal weapons and consolidation
of security authority, free of association with terror and corruption.


Settlements:


* GOI immediately dismantles settlement outposts erected since March 2001.

* Consistent with the Mitchell Report, GOI freezes all settlement activity
(including natural growth of settlements).

Edit:

Full text:
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/settlements/Roadmap_fulltext.htm
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Peace/road.html

The (Cached) Group of Four Draft:
http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:7RBTh7_SzIQJ:www.mideastweb.org/quartetrm2.htm+Middle+East+Road+Map+Actual+Text&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[Muddleoftheroad]

35. Wow

There first post and you are already taking us off on a tangent. Good job!

[tinnypriv]

4. "neighbourhood"

Illegal settlement.

[drdon326]

5. "Hudna"

regroup, rearm, and re-enlist

[Darranar]

7. "Security Fence"

Structure built to destroy thousands of lives.

[Herschel]

12. Please, my friend

There is a security element to the fence. The promary objective is Israeli security.

[Darranar]

13. Of course, my friend...

but what I don't get is why it isn't being built on the Green Line. Then, I could accept it-under the condition that is in conjunction with a peace plan.

[Herschel]

14. Israel must watch for her interests

The border is to be negotiated. It will almost certainly not be the Green Line. Building the fence there would make a needless concession and embolden terrorists.

[Darranar]

18. How will it embolden terrorists...

to build it on the Green Line? Even if it does, it will let thousands of innocent Palestinians live their lives in peace. I think the risk of emboldening terrorists can be taken in trade for respecting the inherent human rights of thousands of Palestinians.

[Herschel]

43. The risk of emboldening terrorists

is taken more seriously by those with their lives at stake.

[Darranar]

44. Yes...

but won't it embolden terrorists if it is built in the middle of Palestinian land? And it will also interefere for the worse with thousands of Palestinian lives.

[vierundzwanzig]

23. The primary objective

is landgrab.

[Wonder]

37. ditto

[Gimel]

34. Sure

that wall just blows them to bits in an instant! LOL

[tinnypriv]

24. "man of peace"

Terrorist.

[Darranar]

25. Man of Peace?

In reference to who? Sharon?

[tinnypriv]

33. Bush's pet name for Mr Qibya

n/t

[drdon326]

26. "NOBEL PEACE PRIZE"

shameless joke

[Darranar]

28. "Israel is only combatting terrorism"

Israel is harrasing innocent civilians.

[tinnypriv]

32. True

Isn't Mr Iron Fist a winner?

[Wonder]

38. Oh the farmer & the cowman should be friends!

And we have another riotious showdown at the OK corral.

While ploy for ploy back in the Holyland...it's an eye for an eye...some make a little money...some barter wholesale.

[StandWatie]

42. I know Israel can't quite grasp this

but when you agree to a ceasefire you actually have to quit shooting for it to be respected and taken seriously, I mean it's bullshit to kill women and children over it and the targeting sucks but what exactly did they think was going to happen when they started arresting Al-Aqsa during a ceasefire?