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Kayla Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:20 AM
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Interesting Facts About The Middle East
*Demographics about Arab countries:

ALGERIA – total land area 2,381,740 sq.km. Population 31,736,053

BAHRAIN - total land area 620 sq.km population 64,530

EGYPT - total land area 1,001,450 sq.km. Population 69,536,644

IRAQ - total land area 437,032 sq.km. Population 23,331,985

JORDAN - total land area 92,300 sq.km. Population 5,153,378

KUWAIT - total land area 17,820 sq.km. Population 2,041,961

LEBANON - total land area 10,400 sq.km. Population 3,627,774

LIBYA - total land area 1,759,540 sq.km. Population 5,240,599

MOROCCO - total land area 446,550 sq.km. Population 30,645,305

OMAN - total land area 212,460 sq.km. Population 2,622,198

QATAR - total land area 11,437 sq.km. Population 769,152

SAUDI ARABIA - total land area 1,960,582 sq.km. Population 22,757,092

SUDAN - total land area 2,505,810 sq.km. Population 36,080,373

SYRIA - total land area 184,180 sq.km. Population 16,728,808

TUNISIA - total land area 163,610 sq.km. Population 9,705,102

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - total land area 82,880 sq.km. Population 2,407,460

YEMEN – total land area 527,970 sq.km. Population 18,078,035

ISRAEL - total land area 20,770 sq.km. Population 5,938,083, Which 866,960 are Arabs (not to be confused with Palestinians) that hold Israeli citizenship with full rights and members in the Israeli government and are the only Arabs in the Middle East to live in a real democracy.

Total Arab population 490,526,450 Vs. 5,938,083 Israelis.

Total Arab land 11,796,381 sq.km. Vs. 20,770 sq.km. Israeli land (approx. the size of New Jersey).

Just to compare, USA total area 9,629,091 sq.km. population 278,058,881, Mexico total area 1,972,550 sq.km. population 101,879,171. Total land combine 11,601,641 sq.km. total population 379,938,052

Now imagine that USA and Mexico together are hostile to New Jersey.

Total world population 6,157,400,560 **Total Muslim 1,902,095,000 (approx. 31%).

Total Jews 14,000,000 (approx. 0.02%).

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*Total contributions to “The UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees” (UNRWA) for 2000 were $337,014,742. The largest contributors are:

USA $89,586,000 26.6%

EUROPEAN COMMISSION $63,039,139

ENGLAND $32,371,802
NETHERLANDS $24,416,122

SWEDEN $18,477,911
JAPAN $17,726,955
CANADA $12,960,343
NORWAY $12,731,321

UN $11,800,000

DENMARK $8,811,544

SWITZERLAND $6,041,260

ITALY $5,920,029

FRANCE $5,337,913

GERMANY $4,997,185

The Arab world claims a great concern to the Palestinians, and that America is the “great evil”, how do they explain this:

CONTRIBUTIONS BY ARAB COUNTRIES:

SAUDI ARABIA $2,050,000

KUWAIT $2,000,000

PLO $998,034
JORDAN $86,462

BAHRAIN $45,000

UAE $50,000

SYRIA $37,209
QATAR $35,000

OMAN $25,000

EGYPT $10,000

LEBANON $8,753

TUNISIA $8,357

TOTAL CONTRIBUTE BY ARAB COUNTRIES $5,453,815 1.6%

IN 2001, CONTRIBUTIONS BY ARAB COUNTRIES THAT CALL FOR "JUSTICE" FOR PALESTINIANS WERE $6,062,612 WHICH REPRESENT ONLY 1.46% FROM THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS, WHILE IT WENT UP TO 29.6% FOR USA'S CONTRIBUTIONS, EVEN AFTER DANCING IN THE STREETS BY THE PALESTINIANS AFTER 9/11... PARADOX, ISN'T IT?

*Information was taken from the UN web site http://www.un.org/unrwa/finances/index.html

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A TYPICAL DAY IN NORTHERN ISRAEL, PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN A BOMB SHELTER AFTER BEING BOMBED BY HIZBALLA ON A DAILY BASIS. THAT WAS THE REASON OF THE INVASION IN SOUTHERN LEBANON. SYRIA AND IRAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FINANCIALLY AND MILITARILY HIZBALLA, ISLAMIC JIHAD AND SIMILAR TERROR ORGANIZATIONS

* Taken from Maariv newspaper.

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IF THE PALESTINIANS CLAIM THAT THEY ARE FOR PEACE AND ISRAEL IS THE ONLY THING THAT STAND BETWEEN THEM INDEPENDENT STATE AND SELF DIGNITY, WHY IS ON THE OFFICIAL PALESTINIAN WEB SITE THE GEOGRAPHICAL DESCRIPTION OF "PALESTINE" IS: Location: Palestine lies on the western edge of the Asian continent and the eastern extremity of the Mediterranean Sea. It is bounded on the north by Lebanon and Syria; to the west by the Mediterranean Sea; to the south by the Jordanian Gulf of Aqaba and the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula; and to the east by Jordan. ACCORDING TO THIS ISRAEL DO NOT EXIST.

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Why is the hypocrisy? Where is the Arab league when Arabs are killing Arabs? In 1970 after some unrest in Jordan, by king Hussein orders, thousands of Palestinians were slathered or displaced. Saddam Hussein gassed his own people and the Kurdish. The Syrians killed thousands when Assad came to power. Even today, thousands Algerian are being killed, the Arab League is still quiet. It is very simple; the Palestinians are being used as leverage for the Arab world against Israel. This conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians would be over if the Arab countries will denounce terrorism and will work together to help build a functioning and productive Palestinian state, the problem is, how do they excuse their hate toward Israel if there will be such Palestinian state?

The hypocrisy does not stop there. In Belgium Ariel Sharon was investigated for war crimes (it is interesting that even when Arabs are killing Arabs the blame is on the Jews), when Belgium, not long ago did their own killing in Congo. England went to war with Argentina on a “disputed territory” 1000s of miles from England. How many were killed in Greece and Spain in there own internal disputes. Not to forget the Armenian and the Jewish Holocausts. It seems like in the current situation between the Jews and the Arabs as far as the Europeans stand, is the same, as always, ARAB OIL IS THICKER THEN BLOOD. The Anti Semitism still continues in Europe. There are many Humane rights organizations that blame Israel for violating humane rights of the Palestinians. Where are these organization when innocent people are being murder by Palestinians homicide bombers?

The UN is also not immune from hypocrisy, there are more then 300 resolutions against Israel, but not even 1 against the Arab world. Isn't the UN suppose to be an un bias body for the benefits of its members? It doesn't look this way, as seen by previous resolutions, the decision that already made before the investigation even began about "massacre" in Jenin, calling Zionism a racism, etc...

http://www.MiddleEastFacts.org/
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wakfs Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:42 AM
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1. Better put your armor on
You're gonna get crushed.

Me, I enjoyed your post; very informative and enlightening. Many others here will not like it so much I suspect.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:42 AM
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2. Very interesting
:boring:
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:32 AM
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7. that's one way to handle...
cognitive dissonance...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:04 AM
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3. I'm missing one number on this list. Is it here and I can't see it?
You gave the population figure for non-Palestinian Arabs in Israel. I don't see the Palestinian population figure.

It actually worries me if you left it out.

You might want to explore how much of the donated money for the Palestinians (over fifty years and they still can't make it on their own--exactly WHAT would statehood give them?) actually reaches the Palestinian people as, I think it was Sixty Minutes revealed, Yasser has very fat healthy personal bank accounts in places like Switzerland.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:07 AM
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4. If you ask Mike Gallos
there are no Palestinian people. They obviously don't exist and therefor are not included :shrug:
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:28 AM
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6. looks like Mike's points went over your head...
you know when you :boring:...you :dunce:...
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:32 AM
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8. Nope that's EXACTLY what he said
and a number of times repeated it. So you better sort it out with him, I know what I read here from him ;)
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:42 AM
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9. And it went right over your head
You really didn't understand? Despite all those quotes you really missed the point every time?

Wow.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:45 AM
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11. So Mike in your mind
there IS a Palestinian nation, Palestinian land and they DO have the rights to the land they live on or NOT? Please do make it clear now or never...
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:17 AM
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13. Gee, how many times do I need to say this...
I'd recommend reading the thread "Palestinian population rises to 8.7m in 2003" since we don't want to duplicate the discussion.

I'll do you two favors:

I'll give you a summary and I'll bump the other thread so it's easy for you to find.

Here's a summary.

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian People" with a "Historical Homeland" since identification of a distinct ethnic or cultural group called "Palestinians" didn't happen prior to the Arab League's creation of the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1964. Prior to that they were "Arab Refugee" of the 1948 invasion of Israel and the leaders of those refugees refered to themselves as ethnic Syrians and objected to any claim that there was such a thing as a "Palestinian People"
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:25 AM
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5. where do the figures come from?
eg 'total Arab population' is far bigger (490 million v. about 290 million) than the total of the populations of all the Arab countries you give. And most estimates I've seen put the worldwide Muslim population at 1000 million, not 1900 million. I've I were you I'd edit out these dubious facts - the definite ones make your point better.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:01 AM
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12. Some decidedly non-Arab places are included. nt
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:45 AM
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10. Remember that
from the 1950s until the 1970s, the largest two contributors to Arab Refugee relief were the US and Israel.

Oh, wait. Most people couldn't remember that. They never bothered to see who that Israel was giving their precious "Palestinian" refugee food and water and shelter while their "brethern" were keeping them locked up in camps.
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