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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 08:42 AM Original message |
How Israel's lobby chills Middle East debate |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. Would K&R if I could. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. Good old MJ Rosenberg |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Well, he's not a politician. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I like Rosenberg, his prior work for AIPAC is valuable on a few levels |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I can not even read him, |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yeah, another kook obsessed with Israel, sees lobby influence everywhere, conspiracies.... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Yeah... |
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Never Stop Dancin (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. Shamir |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-11 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. Interesting story; but a lot has changed since 1988 |
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Never Stop Dancin (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. There is no "lobby" |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. There are lots of lobbies |
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Never Stop Dancin (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. please don't lecture me |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. A lot of what happens in Congress is theater, public show. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's Not Either / Or |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes, much that is interesting can lie in the excluded middle. |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That's exactly the phrase I was looking for, the "excluded middle"... |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Rosenberg writes an update: |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. MJ has written another article about his first article! |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
19. AIPAC and Reform Syria.org |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Dang, you could just knock me over with a feather. nt |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. hee hee. n/t |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Do you prefer other democratic reform parties WRT Lebanon/Syria? |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Oh please, enough with trying to defend your AIPAC shit already. You had no idea |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. So are there better reform parties/movements you prefer WRT Lebanon/Syria... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. You really ought not say "Lebanon/Syria" like that, people will get annoyed. nt |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Okay, thanks. I'm curious to see who you favor over the RPS. n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I favor the current movement for political reform in Syria. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No matter what they stand for? What if it's for more sharia law? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You also ought not equate a denial of support for anybody with support for somebody. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So you think the right of the Syrian people to run their own affairs is contingent? nt |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I just want to know if you prefer a theocratic Iranian or Saudi style gov't... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. And I have told you that I don't like either one. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. You answered WRT your preference in #27 but you don't seem to know anything about... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes, I did too, it's just not in the form you want. |
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