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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:40 AM Original message |
Bulldozer driver: I didn't realize I crushed Rachel Corrie |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. How terrible for him |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How terrible for her. Heavy equipment operators have to be very aware of what they are doing. nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. SOP for the IDF is to have a spotter for the combat dozers |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. worse for her, really... and heavy equipment drivers need to know what's in front of them |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Every machine has blind spots |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That matters not. You are still responsible for knowing what is going on around you. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. People are also responsible for their own safety |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Only if the bulldozer driver is a sociopath, or inept... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. Throwing yourself in front of it is not the safest way of making that determination |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. If you look at the sight lines, its pretty clear that he could not see her |
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mediaman007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. For an amateur running heavy equipment, especially "defense-equipped" bulldozers, |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. "I thought I was just tickling her a little." |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. ok I'll accept that statement |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Assuming this is true, there are still many questions. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Corrie was knee deep in a trench and couldn't be seen. n/t |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. By anyone? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. They weren't outside the dozer |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. There were ISM volunteers pounding on the dozer's windows trying to get his attention. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. That's just more BS, along with the photoshop showing Corrie protecting a home. Here's video... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Everyone should watch the video really really |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Thanks. I did not know this. n/t |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. That's the claim made on Israel Matzav well except the video |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Again, this is completely false |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. She was knee deep in a trench and here's the video proving it... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. That simply doesnt prove any such thing... |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Here's a pic.... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. They are simply not in a trench... |
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ProgressiveMajority (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. Lying POS. All reliable witnesses indicate there's no way he could have missed her |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Can you explain to me why the ISM lied by photoshopping fake pics of Corrie's death? |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Because that allegation is complete bullshit |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Look at the video and you'll see the poor photoshop effort that was on the PSM website. |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. You wouldn't know a poor photoshop effort if it jumped out of your arse |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Um, look at the photo and Corrie's shadow. Where's that guy's shadow, and feet? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. No they're not. His shadow should lie in the same direction as hers. He isn't even in the video. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Fine, we'll try that again... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. that same unfounded claim was made quite recently on HuffPo |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. got a link to that? n/t |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. you've already posted the vid from another site 2 tmes in a space of a few minutes n/t |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. oh, I thought you meant it was from HuffPo. n/t |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Sorry I edited the post |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
50. The sight lines say otherwise. There should have been a spotter according to IDF SOP |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. an "interesting" discrepancy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Suing for $324,000 |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. extra for mass murdering and court costs and punitive damages for being utterly evil |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 05:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I would appreciate an apology for your previous remarks |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Quoting Oberliner: "Please note that they are suing for $1 in damages" |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. "Suing for $324,000??? What a bunch of wholly invented garbage." |
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