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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 02:00 AM
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"International Women’s Media Foundation Honors Israeli Journalist Amira Hass with 2009 Lifetime
Achievement Award" http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/21/israeli_journalist_amira_hass

Amira Hass is a regular columnist with Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper and the only Israeli journalist to have spent several years living in and reporting from Gaza and the West Bank. On Tuesday, Hass was awarded the 2009 Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Women’s Media Foundation. CNN’s Christiane Amanpour described Hass as “one of the greatest truth-seekers of them all.”

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AMIRA HASS: You know, Israeli journalists who are connected to the military always talk about the third intifada like the broadcaster, weather broadcaster—you know, like, “OK, there is some clouds. There will be rain. There will be no rain”—completely devoid of any real sociological analysis, not to mention analysis of which—which is based on understanding of what occupation is and what oppression is. This is, I think, almost a natural law, that when you have oppression, sooner or later there will be explosion against this oppression. Will it be successful? Will it be clever? Will it be intelligent? Will it be stupid? We don’t know.

The Second Intifada was a disaster, was a disaster for many reasons, and we don’t have the time, but the main reason is that it was a reflection of people’s anger with this discrepancy, terrible discrepancy, between open—the official language and the reality, the reality of no rights, of no—and, by the way, economically wise, it was good, it was not bad. It was not for strict economical reasons. But it was for this—you are promised liberty. You’re promised freedom. You’re promised a state. You’re promised independence. And what you get are bantustans and growing Israeli settlements and disconnecting Gaza from the West Bank. So there was an explosion. But then, for internal reasons, there was the militarization of this uprising used by Arafat in order to hush criticism against Arafat, escalated by Israeli excessive use of power, lethal power, to disperse demonstrations that were very benign, before the shooting to the air. And then Hamas used this, and others, to show that they are—for their internal Palestinian struggle, a competition over popularity. So they were competing over who can kill more Jews. So this, for me, was a very big failure. But the uprising started for genuine reasons.

And so will the next uprising, because this discrepancy, this Israeli control over every step of Palestinian life, still goes on, and it’s even worse. And the world doesn’t know. People do not associate now the Israeli regime with the terrible restrictions on freedom of movement, like it was in South Africa. Everybody knew during South Africa, during apartheid, that there is pass system. Now people do not know about. I was asked by a very nice Jewish woman, close to Peace Now—she asked me, “Are there any Palestinian journalists doing like what you are doing, living in Israel and reporting about Israel?” I said, “They wish they could, but Israel would not allow them even to go and cover a press conference in Jerusalem, let alone live in Israel.” We mean Palestinians who are residents of the West Bank or Gaza. She was surprised. So people do not grasp the extent of the restrictions of movement, which is the worst of all. I mean, it completely shrinks people’s life, not to mention how Gaza is a huge, how would I say, detention camp for one million and a half people who could not move more than thirty kilometers or forty kilometers in the past ten years or twelve years.

AMY GOODMAN: Amira Hass, we want to thank you very much for being with us. Amira Hass, regular columnist with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, just won the 2009 Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Women’s Media Foundation. Her last book is about her mother, who survived a Nazi concentration camp and moved to Israel. Her book is called Diary of Bergen-Belson, 1944-1945—

AMIRA HASS: So it’s my mother’s book.

AMY GOODMAN: —written actually by Amira’s mother. And that does it for this segment of the show. Thank you, Amira.

AMIRA HASS: Thank you.





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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 05:44 AM
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1. Brava! It's well deserved! nt
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:02 AM
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10. Indeed.
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 12:58 AM by ConsAreLiars
The world could use a few more like her, with the historical knowledge, the understanding of how societies and political tendencies develop and change and how actions yield counter-actions and thus propel things toward more destruction, or sometimes less, along with a having a humanitarian concern for the common good.

I thought the whole interview was very instructive and revealing. But, sadly, as some old book of obvious truisms mixed with nonsense stated, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

(edit to add a few words to maybe clarify)
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 05:53 AM
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2. what has Hass done to advance Palestinian women's issues in Gaza and the W.Bank?
Edited on Thu Oct-22-09 05:57 AM by shira
i'm guessing if she spoke out against Hamas or Fatah, she wouldn't be allowed to report from there anymore....and that's a risk she's not willing to take.

sad.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 03:42 PM
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3. Amy Goodman asks Amira: what do you think it’s most important for people to understand right now
Edited on Thu Oct-22-09 03:43 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
about Israel, about Gaza, about the West Bank?

AMIRA HASS: That we’re not talking about symmetric powers here, Israelis versus Palestinians or Israeli state versus a Palestinian state. We’re talking about a regime of occupation that uses all methods in order to force on Palestinians an arrangement of surrender, which is far away from internationally accepted, or at least in the past or at least proclaimed, internationally proclaimed solutions for the conflict, which is a two-state solution based on the ’67 borders.

And this Israel has been doing for the past twenty years very successfully by economical attrition, by economical temptations, by separation, disconnecting Gaza from the West Bank, by military—vicious military attacks against Palestinians both in the West Bank and Gaza, by all sorts of means, by restrictions on movement which sometimes we feel are far worse than those restriction on movements put on blacks in South Africa, apartheid South Africa.


http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/21/israeli_journalist_amira_hass

She describes the reality that people like you work overtime to mask, Shira. That's what she does. She works to correct the bullshit you peddle.

I'm sure you can't abide Amira Hass. The picture she paints is grim indeed.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 06:39 PM
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7. it's more important to recognize the role of Iran, S.A., Syria, etc. using Palestinians as proxies
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 07:16 AM
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19. "Connect Palestine to Iran." Latest talking points? nt
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:47 AM
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26. let's pretend Hamas and Hezbollah aren't already linked to Iran and that Fatah doesn't want closer
Edited on Sat Oct-24-09 05:55 AM by shira
relations to Iran, presumably for arms shipments to compete with Hezbollah and Hamas for toughest gang in the region.

and that all those actors aren't really interested in the same goal of mass genocide, etc...

not to mention the roles of Syria, S.Arabia, etc...

we can pretend that Israel's nice neighbors in the region have nothing at all to do with Palestine, right?

:eyes:

you prefer pretending, right?
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 03:48 PM
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4. Amira on Hamas and the use of rockets:
Look, I think that the rockets of the—this is where I differ from the human rights language. My argument with them is about indeed morality and about usefulness for the struggle for liberation. Is it useful or not? I think that the whole rocket thing is a theater, is a make—pretend for internal use, for the Palestinian internal use, to say, “Oh, we are fighting against the occupation.” It’s putting people in total misconception, because Hamas has not delivered in improving people’s life, so they go to the realm of imaginary fight and imaginary struggle for liberation, comparing themselves to Hezbollah, based on no fact, I mean, only out of lies, which doesn’t mean that I—

But the thing here that we—when we concentrate so much about the rockets, we think—we forget, we completely forget, the daily—what daily?—minute-by-minute violence that Israel is exercising against the Palestinians. When borders are closed, when all exits to Gaza and out of Gaza are closed, this is violence. This is daily violence. When children do not have pens and pencils and paper to use in schools, this is violence. Everybody is talking about food. Food is not the problem. The problem is the right of Palestinians to produce, to create, to export, to travel, and this has been violated for ten years already, before the rockets were launched from Gaza.

So this is—but the Goldstone report forced Israel to look at testimonies and evidence that was there all the time, but it was very easy to ignore, because they were saying, “Oh, it’s just all these journalists and these marginal journalists, and so far our soldiers have not told anything, so everybody believes our version.” All of a sudden, the scope of the attack against Goldstone report shows that they take it seriously.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/21/israeli_journalist_amira_hass


OMG Shira, I can see how this courageous teller of truth and seeker of justice must get under your skin.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 06:40 PM
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8. why doesn't Hass just call the rocket attacks morally perverted atrocities and war crimes?
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:53 AM
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13. Because she sees the situation as a whole. She's a reporter, not a PR chum bucket.
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 05:53 AM by ProgressiveMuslim
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 06:09 AM
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15. meaning...she could care less what thousands of rockets did for 8 years
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 07:13 AM
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17. She sees correctly that rockets are a response to a much more egregious, ongoing crime.
Don't you ever tire of shoveling chum? Do you get paid for this?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:39 AM
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23. of course - who cares what they do to Israelis? no big deal there. Hass is a moral beacon.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 03:51 PM
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5. Amira on HRW criticism of Hamas:
It’s very Orwellian, very Orwellian. It’s Israel which attacks the Palestinians. I mean, I read the article. The word “occupation” does not appear there even one time. He says that Israel is a democracy of seven-million-point-something Israeli citizens. He forgets four million Palestinians, who have to be registered in the Israeli population registry in order to exist. All the Palestinians are registered. He forgot the four million. So what kind of democracy it is, where four million who are in the Israeli Ministry of Interior have to be registered and Israel decides if they are—if they exist? How can you call it a democracy, when half of—when one-third, not to mention the one million Israeli Palestinians, don’t have rights, the same rights? What kind of democracy it is? It is really twisting all facts around. I was surprised to read this article, because it very much sounded—much of it sounded like propaganda of Israeli officials. Parts of it, not all.

Also, it’s true—it’s true that Human Rights Watch was established back in the—when, in the ’70s, end ’70s, as part of the human right—human rights discourse against the Soviet Union or against the East and “unopen societies,” as he calls it. But things have changed since then. And it doesn’t mean that if it was recruited in the Cold War, it was not justified to criticize those societies for lack of democracy. But now we have developed. We know that attacks on democracy cannot—and on rights, do not only happen in the closed societies, in the unopen societies. And we also have learned that we should come with more demands to societies which claim to be democratic.

Every American Jew has more rights in Israel, potentially has more rights in Israel, than any Palestinian who was born there, who lives there, or who was born to Palestinians who were expelled. Every American Jew. I mean, this gives—this gives an obligation to Human Rights Watch to monitor Israel. I mean, there are no Americans who have a potential right to become automatically Saudi citizens or Chinese, or I don’t know what. Only Israel. So you have an obligation to monitor in what—to what extent it protects or abides by internationally accepted obligations and human rights. So these things are completely forgotten, and many more. I mean, it’s—factually, I mean, there are many things to argue with him, I think, and also value-wise many things to argue. And maybe—I’m sure that people will answer.
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 03:57 PM
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6. Fantastic a partisan is awarded for their one sided journalism,has this woman ever said one good
thing about Israel?

I'm really curious.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:13 AM
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12. She's on the side of truth.
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 01:20 AM by Ken Burch
It's not partisan to reject the Israeli government line. It's objectivity.

Amira Hass defends the values of her tradition. The Israeli government doesn't.

And the tiny rockets DON'T justify EVERYTHING.

Stop mindlessly repeating the Likudnik memes.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 06:05 AM
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14. 'tiny' rockets.....that says it all....that's the "truth"
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 07:14 AM
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18. It's fun to see Shira so wound up over this. Nothing bugs hasbara-bots more than the truth.
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 08:48 AM
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20. Your blind insistance that you're absolutely right and the other side is absolutely wrong is the
exact kind of demagoguery that has continued this conflict for 60 years.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:33 AM
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22. I am ABSOLUTELY RIGHT that Palestinians are continually dehumanized by those who would
maintain the status quo, and by those would would seek to further displace Palestinians and destroy their communities.

Let's not forget that there are FACTS in this conflict that have nothing to do with one's POV.

Amira Hass provides those facts, and it drives those who would deny them batshit!
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:45 AM
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25. status quo or not...that's the question
Gaza 2005 is your answer.

The status quo was broken and that didn't work out so well.

What makes you think a repeat or worse wouldn't happen due to a W.Bank withdrawal?

Shall Israelis take it solely on blind faith that peace would magically break out and Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran would all play nice?

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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:41 AM
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24. as long as tiny firecracker rockets or big rocks are falling on Israelis, that's no biggie...
....what would you think about the settlers using such "sissy" tactics on random Palestinians?

no great moral outrage there, right?
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 08:49 AM
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21. Objective people can compliment their enemies, try to understand them and treat them with respect.
From what I've seen this woman is NOT objective.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 06:41 PM
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9. so Amira isn't all too keen on HRW criticizing Hamas.....wow, what a moral beacon of light
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:02 AM
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11. Another interview, just broadcast, is with Riz Khan at:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 06:14 AM
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16. Here's a list of other lifetime achievement award recipients...
Peta Thornycroft, Barbara Walters, Magdalena Ruiz Guinazu, Elena Poniatowksa Amor, Katherine Graham. These are just a few of the pioneering women whose groundbreaking careers in journalism have been celebrated by the IWMF's Lifetime Achievement Award. As these veterans shattered glass ceilings, they elevated the principles of journalistic practice and became worthy role models for young women - and men - in newsrooms around the world. Read their stories below, and nominate a worthy colleague or friend for a Lifetime Achievement Award.

2009
Amira Hass
For almost 20 years, Amira Hass has written critically about both Israeli and Palestinian authorities. A reporter and columnist for Ha’aretz Daily, she has demonstrated her ability to defy boundaries of gender, ethnicity and nationality in her pursuit of the truth in her reporting. In covering the Palestinian Occupied Territories, her goal has been to provide her readers with detailed information about Israeli policies and especially that of restrictions of the freedom of movement. For many years, she made her home first in Gaza City and then in Ramallah.


2008
Edith Lederer
In her more than four decades with the Associated Press, Edith Lederer has worked on every continent except Antarctica covering wars, famines, nuclear issues and political upheavals. She is currently the AP's chief correspondent at the United Nations. Lederer was the first female resident correspondent in Vietnam in 1972, the first woman to head an AP foreign bureau in Peru and the first journalist to file the bulletin announcing the start of the first Gulf War in 1991.


2007
Peta Thornycroft
A journalist for more than three decades, Peta Thornycroft is one of the few remaining independent journalists in Zimbabwe. As a correspondent for The Daily Telegraph in London, Thornycroft, 62, covered the 2002 election when President Robert Mugabe stole victory with a campaign of violence in the midst of the country’s spiraling economic crisis. She also contributes to Voice of America and Independent Group in South Africa.


2006
Elena Poniatowska Amor
Elena Poniatowska’s career spans more than a half century. A renowned journalist and author, Poniatowska, 74, is the author of various novels, short stories, essays, a play and "testimonial narratives" (chronicles of events compiled from eyewitness interviews). She moved to Mexico during World War II and later attended secondary school in Torresdale, Pennsylvania.


2005
Molly Ivins
Molly Ivins has been a nationally syndicated political columnist with Creators Syndicate since 2001. Her column, a humorous approach to national politics and Texas, appears in more than 100 newspapers.


2004
Belva Davis
Belva Davis has more than 30 years of experience as a public affairs journalist in the San Francisco area. Now semi-retired, Davis continues to work as a special projects reporter at KRON-TV and as host of This Week in Northern California on KQED-TV.


2003
Magdalena Ruiz Guinazu
Magdalena Ruiz Guinazu’s career in the media has spanned close to 50 years. She is one of Argentina’s most distinguished journalists. As host of Magdalena Tempranisimo on Radio Mitre in Buenos Aires, she broadcasts to one of Argentina’s largest audiences. She also writes for the daily newspapers La Nacion and Pagina 12, and since 2002 has been host of a daily evening show, La vuelta con Magdalena (Back with Magadalena). She is the founder and current president of Asociacion Periodistas, an Argentine press freedom organization. In addition, she has produced documentary television films on various subjects, including the trial of the Argentine military junta and censorship during the years of military rule in Argentina.


2002
Mary McGrory
Mary McGrory joined the Washington Post as a columnist in September 1981. She joined the Washington Star in 1947 and debuted as a national commentator in 1954 when assigned the biggest story of the day, the Army-McCarthy hearings. Her column has been syndicated since 1960 and currently appears two times a week. In 1975, McGrory received journalism’s highest honor, the Pulitzer Prize for commentary. The award’s citation read "for trenchant commentary spread over more than 20 years as a reporter and a columnist in the nation’s capital."


2001
Colleen "Koky" Dishon
In more than 60 years as a journalist, Colleen "Koky" Dishon has opened many doors previously closed to women.

She began her career in 1941 while still in high school at the Zanesville (Ohio) Sunday Times Signal. During World War II, she worked for the Associated Press and later became editor and president of a news and feature service she founded. Dishon then worked at newspapers in the Midwest before joining the Chicago Tribune in 1975. At the Tribune, she was responsible for creating at least 15 new sections for the newspaper. In 1981, only six years after she was hired, she became assistant managing editor/features, and in 1982, a year later, she became the first woman on the Tribune's masthead.


2000
Flora Lewis
Flora Lewis was one of handful of women who forged successful careers as foreign correspondents. From her first reporting assignment as a UCLA campus stringer for the Los Angeles Times to her job as The New York Times foreign affairs columnist, Lewis's cleanly crafted prose and wide-ranging intellect brought the world into focus for her readers.


1999
Peggy Peterman
In more than 30 years as a reporter, columnist and editorial writer for the St. Petersburg Times (Florida), Peggy Peterman fought the twin battles of racism and sexism in the newsroom while consistently setting high standards for herself and serving as a role model for others.


1998
Bonnie Angelo
Bonnie Angelo has covered a wide range of events in all 50 states and more than 60 countries around the world as a correspondent for Time magazine. After 11 years as a Washington correspondent covering politics at the White House, in 1978 she was appointed London bureau chief and thus became the first woman to head a Time bureau overseas. Eight years later, she was named New York bureau chief for Time and later became its first correspondent-at-large. Angelo's pioneering spirit and determination have made her a well-respected journalist and a role model for other women.


1997
Nancy Woodhull
"Do something to help another woman every day." This motto describes the way Nancy Woodhull lived her life as journalist and activist, and as a mother and a friend. When she died of breast cancer in April 1997 at age 52, Woodhull had already risen to great heights within the news media. At the same time, she boldly challenged the industry on a wide range of diversity and equity issues. She made it to the top of the news media without ever compromising her commitment to women's rights.


1996
Meg Greenfield
As the editorial page editor for The Washington Post, Meg Greenfield was one of the most powerful women in newspaper journalism in the United States. She was responsible for the tone, direction and policy of one of the nation's most politically influential publications. Greenfield was able to strengthen or discourage careers, both in journalism and politics, and to shape national policy.


1995
Helen Thomas
Helen Thomas, after 57 years at United Press International, was known as a Washington institution and the "Dean of the White House Press Corps." Since she began her career, she has been fighting battles and opening doors for women.


1994
Katharine Graham
Katharine Graham, former Chairman of the Executive Committee of The Washington Post Company's Board of Directors, was recognized for the bold choices she made throughout her more than 30-year career at the newspaper.


1993
Nan Robertson
Nan Robertson was a reporter and feature writer for The New York Times for more than 30 years in New York, Washington and Paris. "Toxic Shock," based on her own nearly fatal struggle with the disease, was a cover story in the New York Times Sunday Magazine and won Robertson the Pulitzer Prize in 1983 for feature writing - making her the third woman at the paper to win journalism's highest award since the Pulitzers were established in 1917.


1992
Barbara Walters
Barbara Walters blazed a distinguished path in television for female journalists as the first woman to co-host a network morning broadcast on NBC's Today Show.

http://www.iwmf.org/categorylistyear.aspx?c=lawinner
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:08 PM
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27. The Pin-Up Girl
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 05:10 PM by shira

Did the champagne corks pop at The Guardian over the weekend with the announcement that Amira Hass had won a lifetime acheivement award from the International Women’s Media Foundation?

Judging by the gushing editorial over the weekend, one could certainly think so.

Amira Hass is of course a perfect example of The Guardian’s ideal pin-up girl. She is an Israeli-born woman who not only adopts the ‘asaJew’ stance in virulently attacking Israel, but also employs the memory of her Holocaust survivor parents as a means of supposedly adding moral weight to her arguments.

Indeed Hass seems to embody all that The Guardian holds dear, but even excessive admiration for all that she symbolises does not explain the mindset of the Guardian editor who wrote the following words:

“Only a Jew can invert the “never again” logic of the Holocaust that is used to justify Israel’s least justifiable actions.”

The ambiguity of this sentence leaves us no choice but to try to interpret the writer’s words. Does the writer wish to tell us that one has to be Jewish in order to turn upside down and demolish some perceived cynical use of the memory of the Holocaust on Israel’s part in order to justfy its actions?

If so, this would not only imply that Israel knowingly and deliberately abuses the memory of the Holocaust, it would also seem to suggest that any Jew not speaking out against Israel is morally compromised. Strangely, it also appears to exclude non-Jews from the equasion altogether.

Alternatively, does the writer wish to suggest that there exists some sort of moral perversion both exclusive to and universal to all Jews – not only Israelis –which compels them to distort the “never again” lesson of the Holocaust and thereby transforms them from abused into abusers?

Whichever way one choses to interpret these words, it is clear that antisemitic stereotypes are at play, in addition to the now tediously familiar tactic of linking Israel’s actions to those of Nazi Germany.

The invocation of the Holocaust as a means of criticising Israel’s actions is never done naively. The implied moral comparison of Israel to a racist, genocidal, totalitarian regime which aspired to eliminate entire groups of people from the face of the earth is not only repugnant and factually redundant, but clearly antisemitic as defined by the EUMC Working Definition of Antisemitism.

This is not some editorial from a fringe publication on the extreme Left or Right of the political spectrum. This is the ‘We Believe’ of a supposedly mainstream newspaper being set out for all the world to see, and it contains very worrying bigotry and antisemitism.


British society currently has its anntenae on high alert on the subject of the BNP’s despicable racism, but are Britain’s leaders and influencers of opinions capable of identifying racism from less obvious sources too?


http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/28/the-pin-up-girl/
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:54 AM
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28. You just love finding your bigotry affirmed by those obscure right-wing bloggers, don't you.
Some asshole with a website posts some hate-mongering nonsense and we can be sure that you will find that pile of crap and after eating it (yummy!) then dump it here.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:04 AM
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30. didn't know CiFW was run by RWers.....of course you don't have a problem with the Guardian linking
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 02:14 AM by shira
...Israeli actions to Nazis, do you?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:59 AM
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31. OK, since the owner/operators of that sick site will not disclose their names or funders or
affiliations, and despite the fact that Ayn Randers and other vile right-wing orgs (like those found on other sicko sites you like to link) praise this site, I'll withdraw that descriptive phrase and substitute "dumbass hate-mongering" instead. Hope that helps you get past the unhealthy OCD word-parsing irrelevancies that drive your comments in this forum.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 03:08 AM
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32. it's a liberal site - now please tell me what is wrong with that article?
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 03:27 AM by shira
The Guardian editor of that article on Hass deliberately likened Israeli actions to Nazi actions.

You don't have a problem with that, do you?


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btw, the author of the article is "Israeli Nurse" who wrote here...


I’m not a religious person by any means, and I count myself as a socialist, very much on the far Left of the Israeli political map, but I absolutely deplore the witch hunt instigated by the Israeli Left and backed up by others abroad upon those Israelis who live or lived in Gaza, Judea and Samaria.


http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/07/29/the-fall-of-the-nazi-language/
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 03:32 AM
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33. How warped and delusional and oblivious can any one human be?
Your each new post sets a new benchmark. I grant the fact that you are a very minor player. Some trivial forum on a minor board.

Elected members of the Israeli and US governments are just as murderous and amoral, but far more powerful, and they put you in proper context as just a powerless and easily played dittohead who plays out that assigned role here several times every day.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:21 AM
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34. hmm....an Israeli leftist writes an article pointing out how the CiF editor at the Guardian wrote
...something antisemitic, and instead of focusing on that - you focus on me?

:shrug:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:03 AM
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29. There's one or two posts that show a lack of understanding of what the award was for...
It wasn't for having a political stance and didn't have anything to do with working on women's rights issues. The award is given to female journalists who have become role models in their field for younger people. It says right so on this page of the site: 'Peta Thoryncroft, Barbara Walters, Magdalena Ruiz Guinazu, Elena Poniatowksa Amor, Katherine Graham. These are just a few of the pioneering women whose groundbreaking careers in journalism have been celebrated by the IWMF's Lifetime Achievement Award. As these veterans shattered glass ceilings, they elevated the principles of journalistic practice and became worthy role models for young women - and men - in newsrooms around the world.'

http://www.iwmf.org/categorydetail.aspx?c=laawards

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