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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:17 PM
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Israel's 'victories' in Gaza come at a steep price
The Jewish ethical tradition means embracing Palestinians, too.
By Sara Roy
from the January 2, 2009 edition

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Cambridge, Mass. - I hear the voices of my friends in Gaza as clearly as if we were still on the phone; their agony echoes inside me. They weep and moan over the death of their children, some, little girls like mine, taken, their bodies burned and destroyed so senselessly.

One Palestinian friend asked me, "Why did Israel attack when the children were leaving school and the women were in the markets?" There are reports that some parents cannot find their dead children and are desperately roaming overflowing hospitals.

As Jews celebrated the last night of Hanukkah, the Jewish festival of lights commemorating our resurgence as a people, I asked myself: How am I to celebrate my Jewishness while Palestinians are being killed?

The religious scholar Marc Ellis challenges us further by asking whether the Jewish covenant with God is present or absent in the face of Jewish oppression of Palestinians? Is the Jewish ethical tradition still available to us? Is the promise of holiness – so central to our existence – now beyond our ability to reclaim?

The lucky ones in Gaza are locked in their homes living lives that have long been suspended – hungry, thirsty, and without light but their children are alive.

Since Nov. 4, when Israel effectively broke the truce with Hamas by attacking Gaza on a scale then unprecedented – a fact now buried with Gaza's dead – the violence has escalated as Hamas responded by sending hundreds of rockets into Israel to kill Israeli civilians. It is reported that Israel's strategy is to hit Hamas military targets, but explain that difference to my Palestinian friends who must bury their children.

On Nov. 5, Israel sealed all crossing points into Gaza, vastly reducing and at times denying food supplies, medicines, fuel, cooking gas, and parts for water and sanitation systems. A colleague of mine in Jerusalem said, "this siege is in a league of its own. The Israelis have not done something like this before."

During November, an average of 4.6 trucks of food per day entered Gaza from Israel compared with an average of 123 trucks per day in October. Spare parts for the repair and maintenance of water-related equipment have been denied entry for over a year. The World Health Organization just reported that half of Gaza's ambulances are now out of order.

According to the Associated Press, the three-day death toll rose to at least 370 by Tuesday morning, with some 1,400 wounded. The UN said at least 62 of the dead were civilians. A Palestinian health official said that at least 22 children under age 16 were killed and more than 235 children have been wounded.

In nearly 25 years of involvement with Gaza and Palestinians, I have not had to confront the horrific image of burned children – until today.

Yet for Palestinians it is more than an image, it is a reality, and because of that I fear something profound has changed that will not easily be undone. For how, in the context of Gaza today, does one speak of reconciliation as a path to liberation, of sympathy as a source of understanding? Where does one find or even begin to create a common field of human undertaking (to borrow from the late, acclaimed Palestinian scholar, Edward Said) so essential to coexistence?

It is one thing to take an individual's land, his home, his livelihood, to denigrate his claims, or ignore his emotions. It is another to destroy his child. What happens to a society where renewal is denied and all possibility has ended?

And what will happen to Jews as a people whether we live in Israel or not? Why have we been unable to accept the fundamental humanity of Palestinians and include them within our moral boundaries? Rather, we reject any human connection with the people we are oppressing. Ultimately, our goal is to tribalize pain, narrowing the scope of human suffering to ourselves alone.

Our rejection of "the other" will undo us. We must incorporate Palestinians and other Arab peoples into the Jewish understanding of history, because they are a part of that history. We must question our own narrative and the one we have given others, rather than continue to cherish beliefs and sentiments that betray the Jewish ethical tradition.

read on...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0102/p09s01-coop.html

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:20 PM
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1. But but but it was "self defense"
:eyes:

As another article put it, a hundred eyes for an eye
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:20 PM
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2. Sounds good
When the Arabs accept the fundamental humanity of Jews, this piece would have an iota of meaning.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:24 PM
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4. "Fundamental humanity?"
You are so full on Israeli propaganda and warmongering that you can't see that which is in front of your face, the intricacies of this age-old problem that I and several others have tried to explain to you, only to be met by your militant stupidity and acute ignorance on this subject matter. Do yourself a service and educate yourself on the subject before you embrace more dubious claims as gospel.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:25 PM
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6. Your post is inflammatory and should be deleted by the mods
You are so full of hate there is nothing to say to you.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:28 PM
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8. Maybe it will cause you to read up on the matter
instead of looking foolish as you already do.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:34 PM
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10. You just look like a hatemonger
and I guarantee I know as much more more about this conflict than most of the people posting their nonsense here today.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:35 PM
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11. You are the one trying to bring xenophobia into this
"Arabs hate teh Jewz!"

It is sad that you see such cheerleading for war and death on this site, and it is even more appalling that you keep defending it.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:36 PM
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13. Excuse me?
The article called for Jews understanding the humanity of Arabs.

All I asked was for the Arabs to do the same.

The fact that that comment sent you into a hissy fit says something about you, not me.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:03 PM
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28. Um, Yeah . . .
A Haifa University survey investigating Arabs and Jews' views on one another reveals disturbing results

The poll showed that 75 percent of Jewish students believe that Arabs are uneducated people, are uncivilized and are unclean.

On the other hand 25 percent of the Arab youth believe that Jews are the uneducated ones, while 57 percent of the Arab's believe Jews are unclean.

Over a third of the Jewish students taking part in the survey confirmed that they are afraid of Arabs.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3350467,00.html



It seems the arabs, at least in this sample, has exceeded the Israelis on the "humanity" department. And what exactly do you expect an occupied people to do with their occupiers? Throw rose petals? Yes, it's sad to see the Palestinians radicalized to such an extent, but don't pretend it happened in a vacuum.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:24 PM
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30. the old catch 22
I'll accept YOUR humanity as soon as I am satisfied you have accepted mine and on my terms.

Till then any horrible thing that gets done to you is justified because you might want to do horrible things to me.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:28 PM
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7. not "age old"... it began in 1948
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:30 PM
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9. How would you quantify that?
Age old seemed as good a term as any lol
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:36 PM
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12. Israeli apologists often disguise the conflict as "age old" and therefore intractible.
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 02:37 PM by grassfed
.. as though it reaches back into the mists of time hundreds, thousands of years... I agree with your posts above.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:37 PM
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:40 PM
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16. whippin out the nazi card so soon? too much pajamas media perhaps.
<...>A nice man was there at the entrance to the museum, an invalid of IDF from the Yom Kippur War, who was born and lived all his life in Ashkelon. From his knowledge and enthusiasm one could tell that he loves the city very much. He had no problem telling me how in 1953 the Arabs were expelled, and the long process of looking for a new name for the place started (the Arab name was Majdl), till it was decided to call the place Ashkelon. The entire communications between the authorities regarding the cleansing of the city of Arabs and Hebrewisation of the name is exhibited in the museum. I think that nobody makes the connection today between the fact that the Qassams land on Ashkelon and the fact that poor Arabs who did nothing wrong to anybody were put on trucks and expelled from their city to Gaza fifty five years ago, and since then they are there and Ashkelon is here. And this did not happen in wartime or as a result of hostilities, but from a cold calculation that the area must be cleansed of Arabs. There is a picture in the museum that shows the Arabs sitting and waiting in front of the of Israeli military government building. It sends shivers down my spine because it happens in the year I was born. And it is really, really hard for me to realize that at the time that my parents were happy with my birth, other people were put on trucks and expelled from their homes.<...>

<...>If we come back to the question of the immortality of Am Yisrael in contrast to other peoples, then I think that what keeps us alive is this insularity we developed to the suffering of the other. In India less than a month ago scores were killed in a brutal act of terror that here got the moniker “The Chabad House Massacre," because we consider only the Jewish victims and all the rest can go to hell. In Gaza there live more than a million people that have no connection to what Hamas does to us, but nobody here minds to starve them and enclose them and prevent them from getting the most basic supplies. Gaza is indeed a chronic disease. The virus that causes it is called "insularitis" and, by the way, it is quite lethal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x233585
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:41 PM
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19. And you think you ARENT being xenophobic?
Seriously, get a grip on reality here. You are making a scene
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:46 PM
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20. If you think that asking Arabs to look at Jews as PEOPLE (not pigs, rats, thieves, snakes, etc)
makes me a xenophobe, then you are the type who will never advance peace for the Palestinians.

There will be no peace until Arabs see Jews as people too.

Too bad you don't see that, but that is the reality.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:47 PM
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21. No one here has said such a thing, these claims are in your head and I apologize for that
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:50 PM
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22. Read the posts
they speak for themselves.

The people here who do not expect Palesitnians to understand the humanity of Israelis or Jews will ensure that there is never peace.

The fact that you think this is a racist or xenophobic point of view is simply beyond bizarre.

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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:59 PM
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24. Simply stunning
This isn't the right board for your racist sentiments, I would go to free republic, they'd welcome your anti-Arab mentality with open arms.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:55 PM
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23. That is propaganda bullshit.
The Arabs never "colluded with the Nazis". They did, naturally, support Germany during WW11. Largely because of the betrayal by the British after WW1. The Germans would, of course, have also betrayed them. But it had nothing to do with "Nazis".
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:41 PM
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17. Agreed, it is just another psychological obstacle to peace
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:39 PM
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15. You are sounding pretty racist to me, Vegasaurus. (nt)
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:41 PM
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18. It's racist to ask for Arabs to see the humanity in Jews?
This board has fallen to a new low.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:14 PM
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26. No. Just futile.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:32 PM
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27. Jews won't accept the fundamental humanity of Arabs.
That is a racist statement, imho.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:21 PM
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3. I have infinite respect for that kind of honest reckoning.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:24 PM
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5. But you don't ask for the same from your people, do you
so what makes the piece "honest"?

Is it honest to admit that Arabs do not look at Jews with humanity>

Why the double standard?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:05 PM
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25. Maybe the piece's author should join a religion more in line with her morals!
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 03:07 PM by GoesTo11
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:05 PM
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29. Genocide always carries a steep price.
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