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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:50 AM
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Gaza mortar attack kills Israeli
A mortar attack fired into Israel from the Gaza Strip has killed an Israeli, police and medics have said.

The victim was hit in the kibbutz of Kfar Aza, near the border with Gaza.

Palestinian militants frequently fire rockets and mortars at Israel from the Gaza Strip. The attacks often provoke retaliation by the Israeli military.

The Gaza Strip has been controlled by the Palestinian militant group Hamas since last June when they ousted their rivals from the Fatah movement.

BBC - read more
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:52 AM
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1. when will it end
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:18 PM
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2. No time soon, unfortunately
which is why Israelis continue to move forward with their lives.

They can't wait for the Palestinians to finally get on board, although everyone hopes it will happen, one day.

Israelis have resolutely stuck to shaping our own destiny, rather than remaining mired in a state of victimhood. And whether it has been advances in the life sciences, agriculture, or energy conservation, Israelis have become leaders in global development. It is our people, not our geopolitical situation, that ultimately determine who we are. It is our people's ingenuity that has allowed us to pursue nation-building.

We are a land of ordinary people capable of extraordinary things. We are a land of innovators, visionaries, Nobel Prize winners, entrepreneurs, scholars, engaged citizens - and, perhaps most pervasively, of dreamers.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:36 PM
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3. people from both sides want to move forward
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:39 PM
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4. But what is holding them back?
Morally deficient politicians.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:12 PM
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5. Deficient, Anyway, Sir, Certainly
There is no doubt this is one situation where the people are well in advance of their leaderships....
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:28 PM
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6. From reading some recent accounts of the '48 War . .
Edited on Fri May-09-08 02:43 PM by msmcghee
. . and events leading up to it - it seems that this was the case more than I realized in that period.

There is recent evidence that the Palestinian Arabs in the region took up the cause against the Jews mostly as the result of much prodding and incitement by their elites over many years - who stood to lose their political power in the egalitarian, democratic, socialist state that the Zionists originally had in mind. Even then, many seem to have done so reluctantly. It seems a good portion of the Arabs who left their towns in 1948 did so because they wanted no part of the fight against the Jews.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:40 PM
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8. Active Desire To Fight, Ma'am, Is Pretty Rare Among Human Beings
Where it is present, you may be sure something is seriously wrong with the situation, or grossly mis-wired in the individual. The full rigors of military training, and the full weight of social pressure in 'warrior cultures', provide a window into just how strong the disinclination to fight is by showing what is necessary to reverse it into an eagerness for battle.

The sparse presence of native irregulars in the '48 has always been a striking feature of that conflict. The influx of neighboring regulars to take the load of the fighting has never seemed adequate to explain it fully.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:38 PM
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7. Yes
Some may be interested in the Avaaz campaign on this issue.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/real_middle_east_talks/

and of course in the extensive work of the Alliance for Middle East Peace:

http://allmep.org/
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