MK Eitam to Arab MKs: One day we will expel you from Israel

[bemildred]

Tempers flared Wednesday during Knesset plenary session when National Union MK Effie Eitam told Arab MKs that "one day we will expel you from this house, and from the national home of the Jewish people."

Eitam expressed his anger at Tuesday's rally in Umm al-Fahm, where demonstrators chanted slogans calling Israel "a Zionazi state" and urging "Gaza martyrs" to carry on with their struggle.

"No sane democracy can put up with acts of treason during wartime," Eitam said. "We have to drive you out, as well as everyone else who took part in yesterday's unruly, reckless and treacherous anti-Israel diatribe." Balad Chairman MK Jamal Zahalka heckled him in turn: "You're a madman, a miserable character, a racist," and was ejected from the debate.

Ra'am-Ta'al MK Taleb El-Sana said Eitam should be imprisoned and court-martialed for his conduct as a senior IDF officer during the first Intifada.

Edit: added some emphasis.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961199.html

[Tom Joad]

1. Why is that so special? This is what making a Jewish State is all about

It began 60 years ago with expelling hundreds of thousands from their homeland.
Sounds like Eitam is much like Ben Gurion.

[Vegasaurus]

2. Talk about a broken record nt

[LeftishBrit]

4. Wow.

You don't exactly see things in nuances, do you?

[LeftishBrit]

3. Eitan is a far-RW nut; and his party is disgusting

Equivalent to the BNP, LePen's National Front, etc.

[bemildred]

6. Sounds like a lot of people anywhere you go.

I was mostly interested in the incivility of the incident, in somewhat the same way I would be interested if we had such shouting matches and threats on the floor of Congress.

[ProgressiveMuslim]

5. Great line from The Wire Season 3:

Bunny Colvin takes Tom Carcetti on a tour of West Baltimore and points out funeral home owned by a white guy in a neighborhood that slowly changed color. The white funeral home director was asked if he'd ever bury African Americans. "Only as a group," he answered.

Tommy Carcetti (the white councilman) tells Bunny (an African Americna police major) that that was disgusting.

Bunny surprisingly answered that he respected the man's candor: "At least you know where you stand with him."

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With Eitan at least people know where they stand. I see the far greater danger as "the moderates" who want to talk peace, all the while expand settlements, massacre civilians and create apartheid conditions.

[bemildred]

7. You know, at first I didn't want to go there.

Bigots like Eitan annoy me. But thinking it over, I'll bet you could make a good case that Eitan and Hamas are more likely to work out an agreement than Abbas and Olmert, because there would be less bullshit. Or they could just wind up getting more people killed. You never know.

[azurnoir]

8. On that

there is an "80's Frankie Goes to Hollywood video that has a claymation of Reagan and Brezhnev duking it out in a boxing ring, just a thought

[bemildred]

11. I like loincloths in a sand arena, with dull kitchen knives.

I'd say naked, but that's a bit unappetizing.
I used to think about Sharon and Arafat ...

[azurnoir]

13. Sharon and Arafat in lioncloths????

now thats a mental picture, if a movie had made they could have been played Rodney Dangerfield and Cheech Marin but oh well

[Looking4Light]

18. The entire Middle East would up and leave n/t

[Douglas Carpenter]

9. did you see the news from Northern Ireland in the last few days ?

The hardest of the hardliner Ulster Protestants, the Rev. Ian Paisley (who just stepped down as leader of the Democratic Unionist Party) was exchanging complements with Martin McGuinness (almost certainly a former active IRA terrorist commander) and Gerry Adams (at least an apologist for the IRA terrorism). http://www.politics.co.uk/issueoftheday/mcguinness-applauds-paisley-off-stage-$1209737$1209675.htm

Rev. Paisley was a man who once completely rejected even the principle of Catholic civil rights in Northern Ireland and fought fiercely against it. Martin McGuinness once lead terrorist attacks with the vow to never stop until the British were completely out of Northern Ireland.

I cannot say that this analogy is valid or not. But it does demonstrate what can happen when honest sworn enemies who know where each other stand actually talk with each other.

[LeftishBrit]

10. Yes. I do sometimes use the Good Friday Agreement as an analogy

Like you, I don't know if it's a valid one; but I like to think it might be.

[bemildred]

12. It was good to see Mr Paisley retire.

There are other good examples. It depends on the particular persons, I think. They have to be committed to something besides themselves, which means they have to be believers rather than opportunists. And they have to be smart enough and realistic enough to know they can't just make demands because (insert deity of your choice here) is on their side. Sometimes you have to wait a generation or two until everybody sees they aren't going anywhere good the way things are, or there comes along a generation that doesn't care a fig about whatever was being fought over. One of the best examples I can think of is Mr de Klerk and Mr Mandela, in the sense of seeing they weren't going anywhere good the way things are, and that is the case that I think applies here, but I don't see any de Klerk or Mandela at present. Although you can make an argument for Barghouti ...

[Scurrilous]

14. Lieberman: Arab MKs responsible for terror attack

Yisrael Beiteinu chairman claims Israeli Arab leaders bear responsibility for incitement that led to deadly shooting attack in Jerusalem yeshiva Friday. Arab parties should be outlawed, he states

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3516226,00.html

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"An incitement campaign promoted by Arab leaders and MKs is what led to the terror attack at Mercaz Harav yeshiva in Jerusalem on Thursday, MK Avigdor Lieberman (Yisrael Beiteinu), said Friday.

"Their incitement certainly contributed to the atmosphere that led an Israeli citizen who works in Israel to carry out an attack," he stated.

Lieberman told Ynet that "unfortunately, we are submerged in a wave of terror. It doesn't matter whether it's a terrorist coming from Hebron to Dimona, an attempted lynching in east Jerusalem like several days ago, the Qassam fire on Sderot or Ashkelon or this serious attack yesterday.

"This wave of terror is no doubt the result of misguided policy, the incitement by Hamas and Jihad leaders and by those people in Israel who defined Israel's operations - designed to protect the resident of Sderot and Ashkelon - as crimes against humanity, or this incitement we witnessed in Um al-Fahm."

[ProgressiveMuslim]

15. Boy, those Arab Israelis are surely valued "citizens" of Israel, aren't they? nt

[hifalutin]

16. I wonder what their "value" is

today?

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[LeftishBrit]

21. Disgusting individuals; but do you honestly think they represent ALL Israeli Arabs?

I don't think it's fair to treat the extremist settlers as representing Israelis in general, and I don't think it's fair to treat anti-Israel terrorists as representing Israeli Arabs in general.

[Looking4Light]

22. No, not ALL

But many.

[Violet_Crumble]

23. Well said, Leftishbrit...

Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of the negative generalising sort of thing going on in this forum lately...

[Vegasaurus]

20. They surely feel compassion for their Jewish nationmates, don't they? nt

[Scurrilous]

17. Lieberman to Arab MKs: One day we will 'take care of you'

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"Yisrael Beiteinu Chairman MK Avigdor Lieberman said at a Knesset plenary meeting on Monday, addressing Arab MKs, that "a new administration will be established and then we will take care of you."

The statement came three days after Lieberman made another inflammatory statement directed at Arab MKs, shortly after an Israeli Arab terrorist gunned down students at the Mercaz Harav yeshiva in Jerusalem on Thursday, killing eight people. Lieberman had said following the incident that the attack had been a result of incitement to violence propagated by Arab MKs.

Earlier last week, National Union MK Effie Eitam had also directed scathing remarks at Arab MKs, saying that "one day we will expel you from this house, and from the national home of the Jewish people."

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"Lieberman added that "today we have a government made up of wimps. Believe me, this is temporary, just as you are temporary here. Just as the Kuwaiti government knew ho to handle situations like these," referring to the Kuwaiti decision to deport citizens who attended a rally commemorating the arch terrorist Imad Mughniyah, who was killed in a bomb blast in Damascus on February 12."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/962767.html