Is Israel an issue for you?

[Enraged American]

Am I the only person sick of the one-sided, hypocritical foreign policy the government has with regard to Israel?

It's obvious that the Zionist lobby controls our foreign policy. Why is the US the only country to never condemn Israeli aggression at the UN? Why did America veto the resolution that would prevent Israel from killing Arafat?

For once a politician (Howard Dean) suggests a balanced foreign policy, but he only gets blasted by Likudist monster Joe Lieberman who thinks that settlement building and air strikes on residential areas will lead to peace.

[drdon326]

1. Well...

"Am I the only person sick of the one-sided, hypocritical foreign policy the government has with regard to Israel?"

short answer....yes.

[Jim Sagle]

2. To be faiir, Doc, we could probably dredge up a couple more.

:puke:

[Darranar]

3. Actually, no...

I'm sick of it too.

But I don't believe in a grand Zionist lobby to take over the world led by AIPAC.

[MariMayans]

holy shit..

OK, Israel can't even be used by any other country as an economic model because it depends so heavily on US support. What level of support would be "fair" to you?

[drdon326]

5. how come you dont get a numbered post??

this is the 2nd time.

[Darranar]

7. When someone posts at the same time as someone else...

it happens.

Usually with dupes only, but occasionally there can be strange coincidences.

[drdon326]

4. Actually...

Im sick of the one-sided, hypocritical foreign policy the government has with regard to saudia arabia.

[Darranar]

6. So are we all, Doc...

but this is Israeli/Palestinian affairs, not United States/Saudi Arabian Affairs.

[MariMayans]

12. The Saudi's pay for everything

We don't give them a dime.

[Darranar]

15. We support them...

we support a fundamentalist, pro-corporate, oppressive regime. Bush* multiplied five hundred times over.

[MariMayans]

18. what does "support" mean?

[Darranar]

20. Covering up their support for terrorism...

not criticizing their fundamentalism in the slightest...

[drdon326]

8. Apparently, the NEW s.o.p.....

this thread will disappear in 3...2...1..

[Darranar]

9. It hasn't disappeared yet...

but it's on it's way, IMO.

[drdon326]

10. Where did Enraged American go again??

damn he moves quick.

[Darranar]

11. Dunno...

I still want him to tell me where he gets the idea that the "Zionist lobby" controls our government.

[Equinox]

22. Darranar..he didn't say it controls our government...

he said that it controls our foreign policy. It's kinda true when it comes to Israel.

[Darranar]

25. Just because...

their positions are similar doesn't mean that the government is controlled by them on any issue.

[Enraged American]

13. alright, this is pissing me off.

This was meant to be posted in General Discussion, just like my first thread with the same text. The moderator locked that one because it didn't fit the guidelines of this forum. Explain please because this is messed up.

[drdon326]

14. Alriiiight already.

all i/p in gd gets moved to i/p where it immediately
becomes d.o.a.

you follow that??

[Violet_Crumble]

17. At least yr question got answered...

Y'know, all the 'where's EnragedAmerican run off to now??' questions. They never posted it here to begin with and wasn't aware of the rules about I/P content (and this one is a bit borderline because it's discussing US/Israel relations and mentions Arafat in passing), so while you were asking away, they were up in GD wondering where their post had gotten to. Personally, I think it's a bit strange to be so harsh towards someone doing that when some long-time regulars from this forum start new threads in here that aren't recent news stories or op-eds...

edit: Got their name wrong...


Violet...

[tinnypriv]

23. Doc

You gonna apply for moderator or what? :hi:

C'mon, we could have ooo, you and Jim, and quilp and Enraged American (now he knows the rules!).

FIGHT :nuke: FIGHT :nuke: FIGHT :nuke:

Er, carry on.

[Darranar]

16. When it is Israeli/Palestinian Affairs...

it gets moved here.

[Enraged American]

19. Then why was my last thread locked?

It doesn't make sense. Sorry.

[Darranar]

21. Because it wasn't a recent news or op-ed article...

threads posted anywhere about I/P that aren't based on recent op-ed or news articles often suffer the same fate.

[sushi]

24. Your are certainly not

the only person...Much of the world is against US foreign policy.

I wonder too why the US is against the resolution to prevent the killing of a democratically elected leader. That says a lot about US foreign policy. I don't think the US is the only country to never condemn Israeli aggression at the UN. If I'm not mistaken The Marshall Islands does too. Yes, The Marshall Islands! Do you know anything about it - where it is, etc.? I don't.

[Lithos]

26. Locking

Per I/P Guidelines.

• New threads must be based on a recently-published news item or op-ed piece. Citations and references should include a link to the original source.

Lithos
FA/NS Moderator
Democratic Underground

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

27. Well,

if believing that the special relationship the U.S has with Israel should be maintained and encouraged makes me a Zionist, then so be it. Israel is the only democracy in that region, and to forsake them for some phony neutrality is bad policy. I want a mutual prace, and I want the Palestinians to have their state, but not at the expense of Israel.