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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:18 PM Original message |
Former President Carter says he won't visit Brandeis |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cali, Dershowitz is one of the most extreme militaristic nuts out there. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You don't debate with people you agree with, it is those you don't agree with |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Debating buffons is different than talking to representatives of whole nations. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. and how would you represent Ahmadinejad? He is also a buffon |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. hardly, after a quarter of a century out of office, Carter's stock has risen |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. "He will go down in history... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Ford (with Kissinger) gave tacit approval for Indonesia to attack |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Was Calvin Coolidge a better President? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Most Historians don't |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. You don't want to go there Tom. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Again, one of the many very valid criticisms of Carter. He also gave massive aid to |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. In the books YOU write. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Deleted message |
still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I express my opinion, and you call me a right winger. If you have to resort to PERSONAL attacks |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Tom, |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I could research this more, but among other things, Dershowitz is |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. You made a sweeping and damning accusation and |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. you accusing me of making a damning statement against the MSM? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Well, I certainly don't want to |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. If Carter's only defense is to say I won't debate someone because he knows nothing |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. What are some of the mis-representations in his book? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Why should he debate it? |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Or if he does debate the issue, debate it with someone who |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Asking Carter to debate Dershowitz is like asking Hannity to debate |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Alan Dershowitz is not a Republican |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. He is a defender of some of the most extreme policies of Bush. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Tom, you clearly know nothing about Dershowitz |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. support torture, go to prison. Or at least not be on my list of anything |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. And get questions from students as Carter suggested.... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. He was invited to present his point of view and he did not accept. |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. That was his polite response!! |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. you seem AFRAID TO DEFEND IT. who are the other 3 presidents |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. And Brandeis University is far from a neutral venue. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. That's a truly |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well, what if I said it was like asking Margaret Sanger to debate |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. Carter was asked simply to speak at the University, NOT to debate |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
27. You agree that Dershowitz "knows nothing about the situation... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Why didn't Carter just accept the initial request to speak? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. from the article |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. Too bad. He could have swatted Dershowitz's |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I would like to see him debate Pres. Clinton |
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ermoore (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
38. Not gonna play well . . . |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I am talking about worst president's in my lifetime |
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