Wife of right-wing activist charged with racist incitement

[Scurrilous]

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"Elisheva Federman, the wife of extreme right-wing activist Noam Federman, was indicted Sunday for incitement to racism.

The Jerusalem District Attorney based the indictment presented to the city's Magistrate's Court on remarks made by Federman, a resident of the West Bank city of Hebron.

The remarks were recorded on two occasions - first, by Haim Yavin in the documentary film series "Land of the Settlers," and later by a Channel 10 team in a story on Purim celebrations in Hebron, which was never aired.

To Yavin, Federman said, "We are talking about people who are subhumans... there is nothing to be done except for throwing them out of here, and not to Jordan, but far, because if they're in Jordan they will try to return. As far as possible."

"I say in the best circumstances we need to expel them... If they don't leave? We'll kill them... They're enemies. We have to fight them. If they don't leave, we'll start bombing them. That's the only thing that will help... We don't need to put on airs. We're in a war. A la guerre, comme la guerre - we must act as if we're in a war," she said."

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[davidinalameda]

1. comments like that aren't helpful to one's cause

[breakaleg]

2. In the comments section, someone stated that her words refect the

feelings of a large portions of Jews in Israel. I find that interesting and wonder if that's true. And if it is true, how many of those are settlers? If it's primarily the settlers that share those feelings, then Israel should have no sympathy for them and move them out of the West Bank.

[Poll_Blind]

3. Watch (streaming) Frontline on the Federmans from 2005

  It's called "Israel's next war?". Watch it in its entirety here. I watched this just two nights ago.

PB

[breakaleg]

4. So if many Israeli's believe that it's ok for all Palestinians to suffer

because of the beliefs and actions of the Palestinian extremists. They why is it that Israeli's don't accept the same responsibiliy for their extremists? Given that the issue of the settlers is one of the main, if not the stumbling point in this conflict.

[pelsar]

5. did you miss the part..

where she was charged with racist incitement?

and did you miss the part where israel withdrew from gaza despite the setters and other right wings refusal?....(of course looking back at the continual attacks from gaza it appears that they were right in their predictions)

and i guess you missed this part as well (from the link about the settlers)

And they feel that they're being persecuted by the Shabak, the internal security service. They feel persecuted by the legal system, they feel persecuted by the government… I learned a lot. I listened and often was astonished. Both astonished and fascinated. Our policy was not to confront them and we were never condescending, we mainly listened.

The Kahanists are an illegal party?

The Kach movement is. It's not only illegal, but in 1994, after Baruch Goldstein entered a Hebron mosque and killed 29 Muslim worshippers, they were declared a terror organization.

seems your missing quite a lot....i would guess becuase it doesnt fit your view..so that kind of information must be discarded
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as far as your comment about moving the settlers out of the westbank....

why should we move them out of the westbank...what good would that do us?

[breakaleg]

6. so, if would do no good for you, then Israel shouldn't withdraw from

the West Bank? Even though legally it's required and morally it's the right thing to do.

And not every Palestinian supports the extremists, yet they all suffer. I didn't miss anything in the article or the video. I'm simply pointing out that extremists exist in Israel, that assuming these extremist are amongst the settlers, then they are managing to have enough impact on Israeli policy to remain in their illegal settlements inside the West Bank. And all Israelis aren't suffering for their point of view the way Palestinians are.

[pelsar]

7. whats moral about getting killed?

legal?....there have been hundreds of laws over the years that were specifically designed for jews.....in that respect nothing has changed.....it was also illegal for jews to defend themselves.....that too hasnt changed.

yes extremist exist in israel, which is why some of their members are in jail, some of their groups considered terrorists etc

....but they're not why israel hasnt pulled back.

israel hasnt pulled back because we take one look at lebanon, another at gaza and its clear whats in store for us if we do that now....and the hamas, islamic jihad, etc have only confirmed that scenario

and btw ...this is not very honest writing:" that your just point out that extremists exist in israel... why is it that Israeli's don't accept the same responsibiliy for their extremists? "

that was the point of the video...how the israeli govt deals with them....makes them illegal, watches them puts them in jail......so how did you miss it?....or were you thinking about the palestenains?

[pelsar]

8. the religion of 67.......

this is where all discussions stop:....mention that the 67 borders may not bring peace but further violence...and there is silence, no reply.

its very much like discusssing the land with the fanatical jews and I suspect the fanatical palestenains (hamas leadership).....cant be discussed because that is after all the basis that god gave them that land. Its only fanatics and zealots that can declare certain subjects "holy" that cant even be discussed.

Samething with the fanatics of 67. Though some may believe (and many do) that the pullback may bring peace, that in itself is a reasonable position...however the inability to even discuss the various scenarios that may result and what the various options are, is the exact same position that the settlers hold: Cant be discussed, cant be appealed.....

its simply a new version of religion. The disadvantage of this religion is that the holders also claim to believe in western values of reason and logic, consequences for actions etc.....so there is a conflict: On one hand believing in critical thinking and on the other hand saying "i wont even discuss a certain subject because it is "self evident" (exactly what the settlers and hamasnikim will say")

the similarities are striking, hence the "new religion of 67"