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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:40 AM
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In May bush met w/ Israel and told them to "get their war on."

http://www.alternet.org/story/40797/

How Washington Goaded Israel
By Stephen Zunes, Foreign Policy in Focus. Posted August 25, 2006.

<There is increasing evidence that Israel instigated a disastrous war on Lebanon largely at the behest of the United States. The Bush administration was set on crippling Hezbollah, the radical Shiite political movement that maintains a sizable block of seats in the Lebanese parliament. Taking advantage of the country's democratic opening after the forced departure of Syrian troops last year, Hezbollah defied U.S. efforts to democratize the region on American terms. The populist party's unwillingness to disarm its militia as required by UN resolution--and the inability of the pro-Western Lebanese government to force them to do so--led the Bush administration to push Israel to take military action.

In his May 23 summit with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President George W. Bush offered full U.S. support for Israel to attack Lebanon as soon as possible. Seymour Hersh, in the August 21 New Yorker, quotes a Pentagon consultant on the Bush administration's longstanding desire to strike "a preemptive blow against Hezbollah." The consultant added, "It was our intent to have Hezbollah diminished, and now we have someone else doing it.">


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<The Bush administration's larger goal apparently has been to form an alliance of pro-Western Sunni Arab dictatorships--primarily Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan--against a growing Shiite militancy exemplified by Hezbollah and Iran and, to a lesser extent, post-Saddam Iraq. Though these Sunni regimes initially spoke out against Hezbollah's provocative capture of the two Israeli soldiers that prompted the Israeli attacks, popular opposition within these countries to the ferocity of the Israeli assault led them to rally solidly against the U.S.-backed war on Lebanon.>

And why are the Shi ites so strong now? Because of bush's Iraq war.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 09:37 AM
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1. This is important. Unfortunately, I can't link with or without the
appendix.

Sunni regimes sided with Shites against the ferocity of the Israeli assault.

This is important. The uniter united Moslems.

Since it looks like PNAC wooed Israel into taking care of Lebanon so the U.S. would only have to invade Syria and Iran.

Who knows what is happening within Israel since our corporate news cooperates with the WH in creating a blockade but allowing pedoophilia coverage.

It appears that not all the Isreali citizens agree with their leaders - the ME PNAC branch.

We're getting plenty of clues that this was a joint US leader and Israel leader PLAN - how convenient that an Israeli soldier was killed and two were taken hostage. How convenient. Makes you wonder what Rumsfeld and Cheney are setting up as our 'incident' to invade Iran.

Wish I could read the article. The link is correct. Maybe they're getting too many hits.

The UN peace keeping force should move into Iran now to try to sve it. Load it up with UN staff and forces.

Clues and proof are raining down as fast as rain drops.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:02 AM
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3. Link works now
or hit this link and scroll down and read the article

http://www.thousandreasons.net/

One Thousand Reasons is a great site too
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 09:40 AM
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2. Hezbollah was an easy mark, like Iraq was considered an easy mark
Of course, Hezbollah, like Iraq, proved harder to crush than originally thought.

The lesson here is that a mountain of firepower is not as good as a gram of good diplomacy.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:11 AM
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4. ..
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 10:12 AM by newyawker99
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:53 AM
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5. Israelis seem to be wising up, according to the article
Not only have a growing number of Israelis acknowledged that the war has been a disaster for Israel, there is growing recognition of U.S. responsibility for getting them into that mess. A July 23 article in Haaretz about an anti-war demonstration in Tel Aviv noted that "this was a distinctly anti-American protest" that included "chants of 'We will not die and kill in the service of the United States,' and slogans condemning President George W. Bush."
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:27 AM
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6. Lebanese Think Israel Planned War in Advance
Many adults in Lebanon think the Israeli government was ready to enter into a conflict with Hezbollah before the abduction of two soldiers, according to a poll by the Beirut Center for Research and Information. 84.6 per cent of respondents think Israel’s war with Lebanon was the result of a plan.

Polling Data

Do you think Israel’s war with Lebanon was the result of a plan regardless of Hezbollah’s capture of two Israeli soldiers?

Yes 84.6%

No 13.2%

Not sure 2.2%

Source: Beirut Center for Research and Information
Methodology: Interviews with 800 Lebanese citizens—Sunnis, Shiites, Druze, and Christians—conducted from Aug. 18 to Aug. 20, 2006. No margin of error was provided.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/12957
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