Action Taken Against Two Israeli Checkpoints that Close Nablus

[idontwantaname]

the oppression continues

israelis treating humans as animals

witness the injustice for yourself

ask me how.

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Yesterday, August 2nd, hundreds of people waited for hours at Huwarra checkpoint, which is the main entrance to Nablus from the south and one of the most restrictive in all of the West Bank. Everyone was packed into the terminal, while soldiers allowed one to pass at a time, after undergoing humiliating searches and questioning. Yesterday, the average waiting time at Huwarra was over two hours.

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In response to the international presence, the soldiers brought an additional 15 soldiers, and threatened the ISM activists with arrest, while the soldiers pushed, screamed and physically attempted to stop the internationals from documenting the closure with cameras. The internationals witnessed IOF soldiers pushing Palestinians, grabbing some by the throat, and continuously touching Palestinian women after being asked not to do so. The internationals were also threatened violently by soldiers with M-16 machine guns. On one occasion, a female soldier told a female activist, “Fuck you, I will shoot you with my big gun,” after the international asked why the Palestinians were being delayed.

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http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2006/08/03/checkpoints-opened/

[breakaleg]

1. is it any wonder the Palestinians are angry? they are helpless

to defend themselves.

Can you imagine how stressful it would be to have to go through such checkpoints to go to work or to the doctor?

[Oversea Visitor]

2. And people wonder about sucide bomb

What else to do? Do not want continue with such shameful existence. No way fight back
So go Kaboom, wah you think is was about 70 virgins :rofl:
Whee paradise
Reality is a BITCH.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

3. Those searches are to stop suicide bombers...

...and the IDF soldiers stay well away from them while examining them at a distance for signs of explosive belts.
It takes time to do this, of course, one by one - and having to nearly strip is humiliating. But Palestinians only have
themselves to blame. None of this was happening 10 years ago before they restarted the practice when they rejected
the Israeli peace offer.

- C.D. Proud Members of the Reality Based Community

[idontwantaname]

4. poor spin job

C.D.,
ive been to the west bank and witnessed this discrimination and humiliation first hand. that short bit of BS above is all it is, BS... with the exception that none of this was happening in the 80s and early 90s. it was in fact during the oslo years that the palestinians started seeing a lot of checkpoints popping up. these checkpoints were the israelis version of a peace gesture to the palestinians. perhaps now you will understand why they decided to reject the rest of the israeli "peace" offer.

[Chulanowa]

5. Ever notice that...

Whatever Israel does, it's always someone else's fault?

Can you explain this to me please, how a soverign state cannot ever be expected to be held responsable for any action that it takes, but the citizens of non-soverign tracts lof land must not only accept the responsability of their own actions - but the actions of that first blameless state, as well?

Whenever Israel does something, it is because Israel chose to do something. Therefore, whatever Israel does is Israel's responsability, and Israel's alone. Same for when Algeria or the United States does something. We don't go around blaming Canada for our shit.

[breakaleg]

6. well said.

[pelsar]

7. its called cause and effect:

before there were suicide bombers...there were few checkpoints...very few and no waiting, just a quick glance at some IDs.

intifada I....a few more were added at the exit of some of the larger towns and in gaza

Intifada II....lots of suicide bombers...lots of checkpoints and walls

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not to difficult to understand

[Chulanowa]

11. I understand that it's a safety measure

I'm simply pointing out the stupidity of pretending that Israel has no hand in the creation of these checkpoints - Or anything else.

It's the sort of mentality the Backwash displays towards the Republican party - It can do no wrong and when it does it's someone else's fault.

[Burried News]

8. Who told you this is so?

What are Israeli troops doing in the West Bank in the first place?

[sabbat hunter]

9. israeli troops in west bank

there are israeli troops in the west bank because in 1967 there was a war. at the time the west bank was occupied/annexed by jordan. israel fought the combined strength of jordan, egypt and syria.

jordan did not give up its claim to the west bank until 1988.

what was israel supposed to do after the war in 1967? there was no palestinian government (because the jordanians and egyptians wouldnt allow it). there was still a state of war between jordan and israel (with an armistice in place, but still a technical state of war).

so pray tell, what was israel supposed to do immediately after the 1967 6 day war?

[Tom Joad]

13. Comply with UN resolutions?

nahhh. UN Resolutions do not apply to Israel, above such things.

[sabbat hunter]

14. UN resolutions

those resolutions (242) dont just cover israel. it insures that israel will have safe and defensible borders.

for how long did israel not have anyone to negotiate with over the west bank and gaza? how about how jordan ruled the west bank for 20 years. why didnt they allow a palestinian government? instead jordan annexed the west bank. they held onto this claim until 1988.

until very recently israel had no one to withdraw and leave in control of the land. there was no "government in exile". the closest thing was the PLO, a group sworn to destroy israel thru terror (which offically they have taken out of their charter, but still had their al-asqa murder brigade carry out terror activites)

now israel once again has no bargaining partner as hamas was elected as the leader of the PA, but hamas is sworn to destroy israel.


israel pulled out of gaza. to be ruled by the PA. what happened? some terrorists in gaza destroyed the greenhouses that were left for the palestinians to use. then the rocket attacks began. it doesnt matter if they did little damage, the fact remains that they were fired at civilian targets.

israel controled the border between gaza and israel as is their right. and also within their right they kept that border closed. but there was an open border between gaza and egypt.

that leads us up to the kidnapping of the soldiers. on israeli territory. yes it is a kidnapping because it was done by an illegal military tunneling under the border.

[IntiRaymi]

10. They are doing what they do best: Opressing.

That is their main job, and for that, it brings them dishonor as a fighting force.

[Tom Joad]

12. Why is this checkpoint in the middle of the West Bank... and going to

the Palestinian town of Nablus, not toward a Israeli border?