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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:27 AM Original message |
This could be much worse than most here imagine. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. The worst case is this, there has never been a nuclear power |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. fully support the slaughter of Innocent people????? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Deleted message |
msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I never said one word about anti-semitism. |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. It fits with the agenda |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
102. Egg-zactly! |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Drivel n/t |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
104. Yep, sums it up |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. What you are missing - |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Hear, Hear! |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Yes, you are right. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. uh..... |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Uh . . |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Well- |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. well, if "threats" aren't a warcrime then why is it that threats from |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Warcrimes are not necessary before one defends oneself. |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. so Israel can threaten Lebanon and that's ok. they aren't allowed |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Think about your words. |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. What???? |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yes, if the threat of destroying 10 buildings . . |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I also believe Lebanese civilians are "innocent lives". |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. If those 900 dead prevent a much worse disaster later . . |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. the basic difference here is you believe Israeli lives have more value |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Why would you say that. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
105. Oh, Jesus H. Christ in a canoe, do you even |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Oh the irony nt |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
103. OMFG! You have GOT to be |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
100. No! You don't convert an Enemy to A Friend by bombing them 10x |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Truly amazing how clueless |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Yes, I remember how my beloved brother came |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Does Palestine have a right to defend itself against Israeli colonization? |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Israel is not a colonial power. |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Response |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. "I have seen Israel commit no war crimes." |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. What colonization of Palestine? |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. during gulf war 1 iraq was firing missils on israel. bush 1 asked |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Nonviolence has its costs |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. how many times can you be "slapped"? for 60 years there have |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. And how many times has Israel responded with violence? |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. i would love to see peace -- not just in the ME -- but the whole |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. This is the problem IMO |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Peace does not depend acknowledging the pain . . |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. Response |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. I too support Israels right to exsist/defend itself ! |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. Haha Very Pro Isreal |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. HaHa pretty creative. |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Never hide where I am from |
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OrechDin (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
110. or even overseas nt |
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sevenleagueboots (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. If i may stick my beak in here........Jews must have water..where is it? |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. I refuse to paint Isreal so cold blooded |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. The US and UK are painted that way |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. You think it is working out in the West Bank |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. I support the idea of a state of Israel |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Wishful thinking. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The last FAIR Israeli leader |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Haha |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. When is the last time classical colonialism worked? |
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furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Those "wingnuts" were voted into power by the population. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. yeah - |
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furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. responses... |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. The last Israeli leader that was closest |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. Why did Arafat reject? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. "those 900 Lebanese died today - so that 9 million Lebanese can live" |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It is trully shameful |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
107. Switch that around to |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. sorry, recruitment effort |
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furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Please explain the "lies and misinformation". |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. They are not an army |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. they don't HAVE infrastucture! they are a militia made up of |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Those rules apply to . . . |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Not what started this crap |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. o lemme see. maybe the part where the Lebanese should be |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. My words were . . |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. no I can't and won't say this: |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. This is what passes for reason these days. |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
28. congratulations, you've passed your Israeli PR 101 course with an "A" |
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furman (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Israel did not "steal land" |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. steal conquer occupied |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. to which generous offers of peace are you referring? |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
79. Why no response to this from the pro-Israel crowd? nt |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
108. Because they know it's true and |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
78. Did you support Iraq's "acquistion" of Kuwait? |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. They do that there be peace |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. great post. i agree with everything you said. your post is |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. Is this the best you can offer? |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
96. Dear msmcghee |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. Just to underscore what I was saying . . |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
80. "Victory of Islam over the west" |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Not from me. |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
58. Again with the misconceptions |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Our taking of this continent was not the same thing. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Come on |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. OK - Let's look at the wall. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Sounds like |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. There are layers and layers of violent and cruel actions . . |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Yes - there are layers and layers |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Jack, thanks but I'm getting worn out. |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. the land is unsustainable because of the settlements and the maze |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. "American settlers and cavalry were often not acting in defense" |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. As I have explained . . |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. You can't have it both ways on the UN and world community |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. those settlements aren't providing military buffers. they are |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
64. Israel is the only "real democracy" in the ME? |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Democracies allow their citizens to . . |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
91. that one phrase sure gets a lot of mileage on here |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
95. "They don't give the Palestininans a say" |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. Lebanon was the only real democracy in the Middle East |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Lebanon is not a democracy |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Bush has a twisted concept of freedom and democracy |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
111. Locking per I/P guidelines |
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