HIZBULLAH USES TOP ATGMs AGAINST ISRAEL

[bemildred]

Just the teaser.

TEL AVIV -- Israel has determined that Hizbullah deployed advanced anti-tank weapons in the war in Lebanon.

Israeli military sources said many of the Hizbullah weapons were Russian-origin anti-tank guided missiles believed to have been supplied to Syria. They said the weapons were transferred to Hizbullah over the last year.

The sources said Hizbullah used the advanced systems during the battle of Bint Jbail, regarded as the movement's capital in southern Lebanon. Israeli troops recovered shells or launchers of the Milan and Kornet anti-tank systems.

The Hizbullah acquisition of the AT-14 Kornet was said to have alarmed commanders in the Armored Corps. The Kornet, guided by a laser tracker, has a range of five kilometers, greater than that of Israel's anti-tank weapons.

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[endarkenment]

1. anti tank weapons are legitimate military defensive weapons

If Israel would like to not have these weapons used against its tanks, it ought to remove its tanks from Lebanon.

[pelsar]

4. Hizballa is not the lebanese army...

they are a bunch of fanatical gangbangers with religion...they have no right to occupy lebanon and Beruit, terrorize the local population and start wars, let alone have advance weaponry.

people who defend them might as well defend pot pol, stalin and the rest of histories ilk.....

[Waya]

5. How strange........

.....last I heard.....Hezbollah was helping a lot of Lebanese people get food, water, shelter - I also hear that the support amongst the Lebanese for Hezbollah is rising. Another odd story is that Hezbollah has done quite a bit for Lebanon thru funding hospitals and Schools for the poor. What a dreadful bunch they are.

But of course - nobody has the right to occupy, have weapons, etc - except the US and Israel.

[pelsar]

9. runs schools and teach hate...

and hizballa runs hospitals, picks up the garbage and taxes the residents of s. lebanon.....and of course they dont let the s. lebanon army or police force in s. lebanon or for that matter in what was once their neighborhood in s. beruit.

all paid for by iran......

ever read what the lebanese bloggers think of your friends the hizballa?..what do they know, they just live there:

thought you might like this: they are honest about their goals...and its not peaceful....
And even when the battle with the Israelis is over, he adds menacingly, Hizbullah will have other battles to fight. "The real battle is after the end of this war. We will have to settle score with the Lebanese politicians. We also have the best security and intelligence apparatus in this country, and we can reach any of those people who are speaking against us now. Let's finish with the Israelis and then we will settle scores later."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0,,1832931,00.html

but let me understand this: your supporting a fanatical intolerant religious group that has taken by force parts of lebanon, from the lebanese and you justify this because they run the schools and hospitals....perhaps if they didnt force the lebanese govt out, then the lebanse govt would be providing the schools and hospitals?...just an idea.

[dennis4868]

6. could not have said it better myself.....

if many DUers here were in a country and right next door to a country that Hezballah occupied they would not be so easy on them and tough on the country trying to destroy them. You have to be in the situation and environment that the people and leaders of Israel are constantly in to truly understand why they are what they are doing. It has not gone perfectly but they need to kill the cancer one way or the other.

[newyorican]

7. ...and if "many DUers" were in Lebanon?

Would we be singing praises to Israeli military actions, or would we be chanting, "Death to Israel"?

Amazing, that point-of-perspective thingie...

[dennis4868]

11. you probably would not be in the......

"war" zone because you would take heed to Israel's warning to get out of there immediately.

[newyorican]

13. The Amazing Karnak?!?

You are "probably" correct, I would have my family far away if I had the means.

The question still remains...

[endarkenment]

8. Hezbollah was formed primarily to resist Israeli occupation

of Lebanon. All people have the right to self defense. You do, I do, even shiite Lebanese people have that right.

[pelsar]

10. er minor detail...

israel left lebanon in 2000 to UN/Lebanon/Syria sanctioned borders....case closed.

Hizballas problem is that a resistant group without an enemy kinda loses much of its reason to be...hence the "self defense story" that so many have bought.....

[endarkenment]

12. Case closed? Asleep the last three weeks?

Lebanon is re-invaded and re-occupied. This thread is about Hezbollah's use of military weapons inside Lebanon against the invading Israeli army. The self defense story, despite Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000 has not gone away. Incursions BY BOTH SIDES have occurred on a sporadic basis. Border disputes continued at varying levels of open warfare, especially in the Shebba Farms region.

Do you really honestly think that this conflict is as one sided as your public position here?

[pelsar]

14. palestenians "blew it"...

now they have been reinvaded....pretty dumb of them to shoot kassams and kidnap a soldier....they should have concentrated on importing and exporting via egypt when israel left......dumb dumb.

there is no border dispute between lebanon, syrian and israel....the UN sanctioned the border and all the states involved agreed.
(Hizballa may disagree.but they have about as much to say about the borders as does the mafia in the states-unless you believe that gangs should have a say in the foreign policy of a country....)

[IntiRaymi]

15. Israel never left Lebanon.

Shaba Farms?
And, in fact, Israel never LEFT period. The enemy was still there, and it was obviously just a matter of time before Israel would cook up an excuse to go back into Lebanon.

[pelsar]

16. Shaba farms..-some prefer hizballa over lebanon

so i understand you takes a fanatical religious militias point of view over the UN sanctioned border agreed to by the relevant states (israel, Syria and Lebanon)

interesting point of view....perhaps you can explain why?

(just for the record, israel took them from syria during the 6 day war)

maybe Hizballa shouldnt have kept attacking israel for the last 6 years?....just an idea, egypt figured it out, jordan did, syria did....

[Kagemusha]

2. Just to mention, the Kornet's recent/ modern but not sparkling new

The 'over the last year' is referring to the transfer, not the manufacture. Just mentioning because I'm used to people jumping to odd conclusions and conspiracy theories about arms transfers. And using a Kornet to kill infantry is an odd sort of overkill.

[bemildred]

3. I remember our triumphant forces advancing on Baghdad in 2003

becoming quite alarmed at the idea that Saddam's army might have them. If the Lebanese have these, it would explain much.