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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 09:57 AM
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Old West-style shoot is for a worthy cause
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The teamsters are safe. But this time Cole isn't just shooting to save a bunch of imaginary teamsters. He's shooting to save Melinda Rea.

Melinda Kelly was diagnosed with cancer in December, and the Smoky Mountain Shootists decided to hold a benefit to help the family out.

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Now, I bet you dollars to donuts that some anti-gunner here is going to find something wrong with this.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 10:01 AM
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1. It's just dopey...
Why don't you go grind your axe somewhere else?
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 10:04 AM
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3. Thanks for the invitation
but if you don't like what I post, just don't respond. OK?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 11:14 AM
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7. and
Some might say: "If you don't like people responding to what you post, don't post it on an internet discussion board."

Of course, I'd never be so presumptuous as to say such a thing.

Instead, I might ask about your original post, in all sincerity: what was your point? I beg forgiveness in advance if I am wrongly assuming that you must have actually had a reason for posting something on an internet discussion board ...
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 10:27 AM
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4. and of little interest to anyone else at all
From the story:

Cole drove up from Anderson, S.C., on Saturday to attend
a benefit cowboy action shoot for Melinda Rea Kelly of
Knoxville and her husband, "Curly" Bill Kelly, a member
of the Knoxville-based Smoky Mountain Shootist Society.


They're helping one of their own. True pioneer spirit, I suppose. Big deal.

Now if I were Melinda Rea Kelly, I might say thanks but no thanks, for the reason already mentioned here: a bunch of dumbass pretend-cowboys shooting at imaginary Native Americans -- i.e. the idea that Native Americans were/are for shooting at -- isn't my idea of something I'd want to legitimize in any way.

On the other hand, if I were desperate for the money, I'd consider stating my opinion about that to anyone who asked for my response to the grand gesture, and expect that the dumbass pretend-cowboys would still want to help me out, because after all they're being charitable, not looking for personal gain or fame by helping me.

And if I were actually desperate enough for the money and worried enough, and realistically, that speaking out might result in not getting it, I might just shut up and take it. And rage inwardly against the society that put me in the position of having to choose between denouncing something that glorifies other people's suffering and having my own suffering relieved, and against people whose "charity" was apparently so selfish.

Of course, it's so unlikely that I'd ever be in that position -- married to a dumbass pretend-cowboy, or in need of funds to cover medical care (if that's the case; can't tell) -- me being both enlightened and Canadian and all, that I can't predict with any certainty at all just what I might do.

But the story still has nothing to do with justice/public safety etc., or even any relevant aspect of firearms or firearms control. People ride motorcycles for charity all the time; I'd never suggest that this had anything at all to do with traffic or licensing or helmet laws. But who knows; somebody might.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 10:31 AM
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5. If you're not interested
then just move along. How difficult is that?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 11:11 AM
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6. may I quote you?
"Move along." You can expect to hear it next and every time you decide to post something, in "reply" to a post of mine, that has nothing to do with the post replied to.

Hey. My post actually had something to do with the post I replied to. Amazing how that works.

So my own suggestion to you would be: piss off. I expect you would have lots of practice at following that suggestion.

There, wasn't that fun? But how difficult would it have been for you not to press that "reply" link if you didn't have anything to say?

I really, really don't think that telling someone to "move along" constitutes "something to say" within the context of this board. I even suspect that it might constitute usurping somebody else's job.

Of course, sigh, "move along" might sometimes be an appropriate response ...

Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his
defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.

You'll have to click here http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html to see the picture, since I don't want to lift the entire content of course; and remember, I said it first.

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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 10:01 AM
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2. I Have No Problem With This
No innocent victims, no one being forced to do anything against their will, and the proceeds going to a worthy cause....

The only possible problem I see is a continuation of stereotypes against Native Americans. But that's totally unrelated to the gun issue.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 11:23 AM
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8. I'm locking this thread
This has nothing to do with Justice or Public safety, and yet is still inspiring conflict between posters.

Dirk - moderator
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