SAF Blasts Elitist Chicago Alderman; Asks 'Where's Protection ...

[beevul]

SAF Blasts Elitist Chicago Alderman; Asks 'Where's Protection for Other Citizens?'

5/10/2004 6:50:00 PM


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To: Metro Desk, Legal Reporter

Contact: Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation, 425-454-7012; Web: http://www.saf.org

"BELLEVUE, Wash., May 10 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Chicago Alderman Arenda Troutman has achieved a new low in elitism, insisting that she deserves special police protection after a series of burglaries at her South Side home while her legally-disarmed constituents are left like defenseless sheep in a city of wolves, the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) said today."

"The Chicago Sun-Times reported May 6 that Troutman's home, burglarized twice in the past three months, now has a police officer assigned during all shifts to watch the residence, including weekends. In a statement quoted by the newspaper, Troutman said, "Deserve it? Damn right. I should receive the protection I am receiving. I am an elected official. You're darn right.""

"Stunned by Troutman's cavalier attitude, SAF Founder Alan Gottlieb offered this harsh rebuke: "What happened to the rights of Troutman's constituents to police protection in a city where honest citizens have been left virtually disarmed by insidious gun laws that Troutman no doubt supports?"

""Just who does Arenda Troutman think she is," Gottlieb questioned. "While she is part of a city government that makes it virtually impossible for average citizens to protect themselves from burglary and other crime, here's Troutman saying she deserves special treatment because she's an elected official. It's time for Troutman's South Side neighbors to tell her she's wrong."

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=177-05102004



Yep, lets just forget us peons, we don't deserve protection. :eyes:

[MrBenchley]

1. An SAF press release?

You guys HAVE gotten desperate.

And I wonder what political party Ms. Troutman belongs to?

"Since her election, Alderman Troutman has made a significant difference on three issues essential to her constituency: housing, education, and providing service to the very diverse interest groups within the Ward. She has systematically addressed the challenges inherent in representing neighborhoods which, she says, suffered from fortyyears of neglect, deterioration, disinvestment, and - most devastating - a sense of hopeless depression.

Alderman Troutman has made remarkable progress in turning around the conditions that plagued her communities.
When she became Alderman, there was not one financial institution within the 20th Ward; by 1995, there were two: First Chicago and Cole Taylor Banks.
In 1992, she sponsored the Affordable Housing and Job Training Ordinance, shepherding it through a reluctant City Council for two years before its passage. The Mayor and the City Council have since embraced it, renewed it and increased its funding from $750 million to over one billion dollars., with a ten billion dollar commitment from industry.
Her consistency and diligence in fighting for much needed improvements in the 26 Public Elementary Schools and two public high schools have begun to reap rewards.
And Kennedy-King College, when its current reconstruction is completed in 2003, will be located primarily within the 20th Ward.
In 1992, Alderman Troutman was elected to the unpaid political post of Democratic Committeeman of the 20th Ward. She has since been re-elected to that position twice. In 1996, she was an elected member of the Illinois delegation to the Democratic National Convention."

http://www.aldtroutman.com/Biography.htm

Well, there's a fucking surprise...one of our "pro gun democrats" slurring an Democratic elected official.

[mosin]

3. Alderman Troutman

And I wonder what political party Ms. Troutman belongs to?

I don't really give a shit. It never even occurred to me to check. Hypocrits don't get a free pass just because they have a (D) after their names.

[MrBenchley]

5. Gee, considering how desperately

our "pro-gun democrats" avoid saying anything against any republican...

[beevul]

7. See Mos'...

We are supposed to check what party someone belongs to before we DARE question that someones actions.

Not to mention, that unless I missed it, the article doesn't mention what party the alderman belongs to.

Edited tocorrect spelling of "than" to "that".

[MrBenchley]

8. Too TOO funny, beev.....

Who expects anything other than this right wing drivel out of our "pro gun democrats"?

Gee, just look at the speakers roster on the SAF flyer....Wayne LaPierre, G. Gordon Liddy, Bob Smith, Larry Craig, Bob Barr, Chris Cannon....just about every right wing wheehole that was under some rock will come slithering out.

[beevul]

10. Heres the deal, Bench...

I was not even aware the alderman was a Democrat until YOU pointed it out.

And, you know what? I don't give a rats ass whether she is or is not.

NOONE is immune from criticism for their hypocrisy.

This "criticize the opposition but never within your own party" bullshit is starting to sound an awful lot like something one would have heard in...places where people disappear after criticism of elected officials.

You just keep spouting it though.

[MrBenchley]

12. Tough titty, beev....

If you go trolling in right wing cesspools like the SAF, you're going to dredge up turds.

"NOONE is immune from criticism for their hypocrisy."
You mean like folks who pretend to be "progun democrats" but have a million excuses as to why they can't bring themselves to say anything pro-Democrat?

[beevul]

4. EXCUSE ME

"Well, there's a fucking surprise...one of our "pro gun democrats" slurring an Democratic elected official."

Please point out the slur *MADE BY ME* or retract that statement.

[MrBenchley]

6. The second I care what YOU want, beev....

I'll send up a fucking flare. Hold your breath till then.

[FatSlob]

38. Her elitism deserves slurring.

She is no more special than anybody else. I find it amusing that certain folks will stand for this.

[mosin]

2. Hypocrisy

"Deserve it? Damn right. I should receive the protection I am receiving. I am an elected official. You're darn right."

Appalling hypocrisy.

It's what I expect from Chicago, where men like Roderick Pritchett are arrested and hypocrits like Alderman Troutman are elected.

[MrSandman]

11. And then...

"Deserve it? Damn right. I should receive the protection I am receiving. I am a citizen. You're darn right."

[MrBenchley]

9. Incidentally, the Chicago Sun Times is online

and searchable/ A search for "Troutman" finds that the May 6 issue has a story called "Meet the City Council" that says this:

"20TH WARD
ARENDA TROUTMAN
* Born: Sept. 29, 1957
* First elected: 1991*
* Fights for contracts for women and minorities and affordable housing. Embarrassed by Sun-Times article on tax break from questionable cut in assessed value of home. Head of Landmarks Committee."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/hs~cst-nws-aldposter06.html

and nothing more.

On May 7, one of their columnists says something about her having round the clock police protection (with no mention of why and no such quote) in an absurdist attempt to spin away, of all things, abuse in Iraq.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steinberg/cst-nws-stein07.html

A search for police protection finds no story on the 6th at all.

Are you surprised that the SAF is lying? Me neither. It's what I expect from right wing pieces of shit like the asswipes there, to whom someone working to make life better for everyone is an "elitist" but a rancid Nazi like Gordon Liddy is a "patriot."

[beevul]

13. Unsurprisingly...

Mrbenchly has his facts wrong YET AGAIN!

Google has this funny cache thing...

"Alderman defends having police watch her home"
May 6, 2004

"BY FRANK MAIN AND FRAN SPIELMAN Staff Reporters"

"A South Side alderman insisted Wednesday that she is entitled to have a squad car parked outside her home on weekends because she was the victim of two recent burglaries."

"Based on the hourly wages of a Chicago police officer on the job for one year, the weekend surveillance of Troutman's home is costing taxpayers $366 a day."

"Some cops groused that average citizens would not get such treatment. But Troutman said she is entitled to it."

""Deserve it? Damn right," she said. "I should receive the protection I am receiving. I am an elected official. You're darn right.""

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:3SoRRVQs2jsJ:www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-ald06.html+ARENDA+TROUTMAN+damn&hl=en

I guess the SAF wasn't lying after all.

[MrBenchley]

14. And SAF is STILL a right wing cesspool

and our pro-gun democrats are STILL going out of their way to attack Democrats...and it's still idiotic to hand out pistol permits as a solution.

"The page you requested cannot be found.
Most articles remain on our site for seven days; most columns remain online for a month."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-ald06.html

Guess in Chicago, people actually didn't give two shits. Of course, they're not desperate right wing loonies there.

[mosin]

15. Still...

And you still think the truth is irrelevant.

[MrBenchley]

16. I think the truth

is that the SAF is a bunch of goddamn Republican shitheads...piss on such specimens.

[minavasht]

34. Don't forget the corrupt gun industry, Bench!

[FatSlob]

39. name calling

shitheads, piss

[beevul]

17. "And SAF is STILL a right wing cesspool"

"And SAF is STILL a right wing cesspool"

Yep, thats true. But in this case, they happen to be telling the truth.

[MrBenchley]

19. Yeah....so trust our "pro gun democrats"

to go diving in that cesspool.

[beevul]

20. Yep...and trust our anti-gun Democrats...

to confuse Usnewswire with that cesspool, and describe the events reported by them as lies.

[MrBenchley]

21. Gee, beev...whose press release is it?

Are you trying to tell us US newswire put it out?

[beevul]

25. Gee Bench...whos site is it?

Are you trying to tell us US the link goes to the SAF?

Not to mention that the story contained within WAS coroborated by the SUN.

Just keep telling yourself their lying.

[MrBenchley]

27. Who PUT out the fucking press release, beev?

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=118-05212004

Does this mean you think US Newswire is a government agency?

"Just keep telling yourself their lying"
Jeeze, why don't you guys just put up a link to the Illinois Republican Party and cut out the middleman?

[RoeBear]

29. You don't get it...

They can't be telling the truth. Just ask Benchley

[slackmaster]

30. Disgusting in every respect

Some animals are more equal...

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22. Nice playmates you have.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/052104_ns_aldermantroutman.html

"Alderman had romantic relationship with gang leader
When federal agents arrested dozens of gang members in a drug conspiracy case, they found a letter from Chicago Police Patrol Chief James Maurer

May 21, 2004 — Alderman Arenda Troutman was questioned by the FBI about her relationship with an alleged gang member after a letter from the Chicago Police Dept. to Troutman was found during a raid. Now, Troutman's brother tells ABC 7 that the 20th Ward alderman had a romantic relationship with fugitive Donnell Jehan".


http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-trout21.html

"Alderman questioned on how gang got letter from cops"

Ald. Arenda Troutman appeared Thursday at the Dirksen Federal Building, where authorities wanted to know why an envelope addressed to her -- with a return address to the Chicago Police Department -- wound up in the hands of the Black Disciples street gang.

She re-emerged after about two hours but would not answer reporters' questions. Wearing a color-splashed sun dress and dark shades, she shielded her face at times from cameras...

"Earlier this month, the Sun-Times reported that Grand Crossing Police Cmdr. Ernest T. Brown ordered that a squad car park in front of Troutman's home from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. on Saturdays and Sundays because she was burglarized.

After she was quoted as saying, "Deserve it? Damn right," the car was removed from her home in the 6500 block of South Kimbark, although police are still giving her property "special attention" by checking on it regularly, a police source said.

Troutman was a precinct captain with close ties to former State's Attorney Cecil A. Partee when Daley chose her after the 1990 death of Ald. Ernest Jones (20th).

[MrBenchley]

23. Yeah...better her than Bob Barr or Gordon Liddy

Or any of the other scum floating in the SAF cesspool...

* Fights for contracts for women and minorities and affordable housing.

[-..__...]

26. Suuuuuuuuuuuure

"Gordon Liddy"... LOL!

Next thing you'll want us to believe is that the reason the letter was in the possession of a known gang of thugs, was that it was stolen in one of the burglaries by a team of "plumbers" belonging to the "Black Disciples".

[MrBenchley]

28. That's who the SAF scumbags love

And you're welcome to his company.

[Columbia]

18. Absolutely pathetic

:puke:

[MrBenchley]

24. What about the RKBA crowd ISN'T pathetic?

They have to rely on press releases from right wing fuckwits like the SAF, and then all they got is this weakass sniveling.

[beevul]

31. Still clueless are we?

Obviously, the source of the press release is irrelivant, since IT WAS BACKED UP BY A MAINSTREAM NEWS SOURCE.

Get that through your head. Say it to yourself a dozen time if thats what it takes.

You just keep pissing and moaning about it because it shows another elitist anti-gunner in action.

"They have to rely on press releases from right wing fuckwits..."


Obviously, from the article cached in google, and linked to this thread, they don't. /snicker

Any person with a SHRED of common sense would have conceded by now, that the pertinent information in BOTH articles was the same, and with one being a mainstream source, that the information was TRUE.

You keep pissing and moaning about...well, I am not really sure what your pissing and moaning about, since I never went to the SAF page, I got it off the wire...

Then again, I don't blame you, because thats all you really have.

"and then all they got is this weakass sniveling."

Thats right, all we recieved was WEAK ASS SNIVELING. I do so wonder where THATS coming from...

[MrBenchley]

32. Yup, you're still utterly clueless...

USnewswire doesn't "back up" a fucking thing, beev....they put out whatever press release somebody pays them to distribute....

"U.S. Newswire is a national news release wire service which provides a direct communications system between the world's leading public interest news sources and the news media that cover them.
Since 1986, organizations small and large - including The White House Press Office - have called on U.S. Newswire's unique resources to provide distribution of press releases and related materials to the news media and online services via USN's electronic wire service feed (the same newswire technology used by the Associated Press), as well as broadcast fax, e-mail, satellite and a broad range of Internet-based news delivery services. "

http://www.usnewswire.com/aboutusn.html

http://www.usnewswire.com/emb/services_circuits.html

Anybody with a brain in their fucking head would know a press release when they see it...and would know SAF was the right wing cesspool it was.

"I got it off the wire..."
And it wasn't worth the getting.

[beevul]

33. To be a little "iveresque"...

"USnewswire doesn't "back up" a fucking thing, beev"

Was anyone saying they saying they did?

"Anybody with a brain in their fucking head would know a press release when they see it...and would know SAF was the right wing cesspool it was."


So what? Is anyone saying otherwise? Lets just put this to rest shall we? The SAF being "right wing cesspool" is irrelivant, since the information in question was VERIFIED BY A RELIABLE MAINSTREAM SOURCE.

No matter how much you howl in rage about it, the information will not go away.

No matter how much you cry about the SAF being a right wing cesspool (which noone that I am aware of is disputing) that information is still fact.

Do you deny that the information in that press release was VERIFIED by a credible mainstream source?

Is the sun article wrong, just because the SAF press release said esentially the same thing?


Speaking of that mainstream source, any comments on THEIR article?

Ya gonna call them a right wing cesspool too?

Whats your answer for their article going to be?

[MrBenchley]

35. More grotesque than anything else...

"Was anyone saying they saying they did?" asks beev, who earlier in the thread plaintively complained,


"Yep...and trust our anti-gun Democrats to confuse Usnewswire with that cesspool, and describe the events reported by them as lies."

Sure seems from that that YOU were trying to pretend US newswire "backed them up."

"No matter how much you cry about the SAF being a right wing cesspool (which noone that I am aware of is disputing)"
You dredged a turd out of it...and now you seem surprised and outraged that it is a TURD.

"Is the sun article wrong, just because the SAF press release said esentially the same thing?"
Gee, beev, why don't you show us where guns or pistol permits is mentioned in the Sun Times article?

[minavasht]

36. He is doing a fine job

of showing how pathetic the anti side is. Even if he was paid for it he couldn't do it better.

[MrBenchley]

37. Sez you....

If he was getting paid for it, someone deserves a refund.

[minavasht]

40. Looks more like a bonus in the next check to me...

Keep the good job!