NRA Board Member and CCW Holder Arrested

[mikeb302000]

I was only kidding. http://www.kentucky.com/2011/10/15/1921006/1-charged-in-connection-with-lexington.html">Here's the real story.

Lexington police on Friday charged Davric Cortez Givens, 21, of Lexington with assault and possession of marijuana, accusing him of firing a handgun at a car where a man was shot in the head Thursday. The shooting was the latest in a string of more than a dozen shooting incidents in just over a week.

According to his Facebook page, Givens is the son of Cpl. Rick Givens, who works for the city's Division of Community Corrections. Davric Givens was being held at the jail Friday.

Well this fine city in Kentucky is just ablaze with gun activity. One fun fact is young Mr. Givens might have his dad as a prison guard.

What do you think? Do you think drive-by shootings and shooting at passing cars would happen just as often if gun availability was less than what it is?

Please leave a comment.
http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/">(cross posted at Mikeb302000)

[rl6214]

1. "I was only kidding."

"I was only lying" Fixed it for you.

I will congratulate you on not adding any blind links to your blog to this post though.

Will Mr Givens have his dad as a prison guard, very possible. Criminals tend to do criminal things and last I saw, assault and possesion of mj was against the law.

Would drive-by shootings and shooting at passing cars happen just as often if gun availability were less?

Yeah, probably.

[Remmah2]

12. His computer is evil and made him lie. nt

nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

14. It's not a lie, it's a faith promoting rumor! n/t

[era veteran]

2. You should take that lie down and start over

Bait and Switch sucks in all applications.
FYI
Nobody is just shooting at passing cars in this town. All these incidents are caused by drug selling criminals. Not weed but pills.
If you follow this forum you might remember that this flurry of shots over a period of weeks started on my street.
I posted then that it caused by drug selling criminals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x460542

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x456885

Please quit making shit up.

[baldguy]

3. What? You've never heard of a drive-by stabbing?

Happens all the time in places that restrict gun ownership.

(It really doesn't...but why let facts get in the way of a good story.)

[friendly_iconoclast]

13. They happen all the time. That's why bayonet mounts were banned for ten years... n/t

[mikeb302000]

15. did you notice that my first commenter

and one of my biggest detractors admitted that lower gun availability would probably help.

[Iktomiwicasa]

18. You have a reading comprehension...

...problem, a problem with honesty, or both.

Here is what the first respondent actually said:

Would drive-by shootings and shooting at passing cars happen just as often if gun availability were less?

Yeah, probably.

In other words, reducing gun availability for the general population likely wouldn't reduce criminals using guns.

[rl6214]

31. He can't help himself.

That's all he knows is the lie.

[mikeb302000]

52. oh, that is embarrassing, but it makes more sense

how crazy for me to think any one of you contentious guys would agree with any single thing I said.

So, what he really said it the incredible, lower gun availability WOULD NOT lessen the incidents of shootings.

And you agree with that?

[rl6214]

56. Was that really that difficult for you to understand?

[one-eyed fat man]

63. Ask the dude who sells you your dope

If the Red Brigades can kidnap and kill a Prime Minister and everyday Mafioso can get all the East bloc military grade weapons they want I'm sure your "unregistered medicinal merchant" can score you a Beretta. You won't have do anything more than when you buy your weed, just hand over the cash.

[DrDan]

4. 14th gun incident in the past 9 days in Lexington . . . .

hmmmmmm

[jmg257]

5. I think if there were A LOT less gun availability, there would be less incidents such as this.

We will likely never know.

[mikeb302000]

16. I think we will have the chance to know

The gun-rights folks have made disappointing progress during the past few years. Their future looks bleak considering that after the big Supreme Court victories and during an administration that didn't oppose them, they could hardly put together any major successes.

Soon it will be our turn.

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[jmg257]

24. You are kidding, right? You really have to stop seeing what you want to see

instead of what in fact is.

And you do know what will happen IF even the illusion of some loss of rights looks to occur...HUGE stock-piling of firearms by those feeling their rights will be eroded. Millions and millions more sold then normal, especially the very arms likely to be targeted for control.

Happens EVERY time. Doesn't anyone learn from the mistakes of trying to push a half-assed control agenda??

While everyone else is spending their cash on guns 'just in case', you might as well just send buckets of your money right to the NRA and the gun manufacturers. In fact - do it now, why wait?..you 'we must control the people' types are some of their best allies!

Time to get your head out of the ass of your one trick pony and actually & intelligently pay attention...the liberal-led revolution has begun, and yet there are still those who insist on giving the corporate-controlled state more control over the people. Why??

[friendly_iconoclast]

26. Prohibition 3.0: *This* Time It'll Work! n/t

[rl6214]

35. "The gun-rights folks have made disappointing progress during the past few years."

Disappointing progress? Don't you have google at your UN office in italy? What am I saying, of course your do otherwise you wouldn't be able to spam this forum the way you do.

You do know that now the only state (that's in the United States) that does not have some form of concealed carry?

What a dishonest loser.

[SteveM]

58. No, move the deckchair over HERE! See? The list isn't as bad. nt

[AtheistCrusader]

6. Why do you continually post untrue inflammatory bullshit in your thread titles?

What is wrong with you?

[mikeb302000]

17. I thought that was really funny

It worked even better on my blog when you could see the guys picture at the same time you were reading the title.

All you guys who call that a "lie" and pretend to be so opposed to it are just full of shit. What you'r so opposed to is me personally because I ask questions you don't like to hear. I point out things that you don't like pointed out.

For example, gun availability to criminals and mentally ill guys and your part in making that possible. You don't like that.

[Iktomiwicasa]

28. You think lying...

...is funny?

[Kennah]

40. He seems to laugh at his own criminal history with guns, why not this?

[mikeb302000]

49. that's just a personal attack. nt

[rl6214]

57. How is it a personal attack

you have admitted your own illegal ownership of guns on a public forum.

[SteveM]

60. Well, I guess there's no law against it. I thought bragging about it was...

disruption.

:shrug:

[AtheistCrusader]

34. No, it's mostly just your bullshit conclusions.

That more often than not, do not pan out upon scruitny of the source you cite, or follow up information from other credible sources.

[mikeb302000]

50. which bullshit concludions are you referring to?

The one which says gun availability is a big part of the problem? Or the one that says you personally are partly to blame along with all the other pro gun guys who oppose the gun control laws which would help?

[AtheistCrusader]

53. Swing and a miss.

I wish to continue working on opening up NICS for public use to eliminate private transfers to ineligible recipients, as well as total registration with iron clad grandfathering, so we don't have a repeat of the California confiscation, AND we can track weapons that move from lawful hands, to the grey or black markets.

Try again.

[rl6214]

36. We oppose you because you lie.

[mikeb302000]

51. you call jokes lies. you call opinions lies. you like that word. nt

[rl6214]

38. "It worked even better on my blog"

You mean BOTH readers thought it was funny?

[Remmah2]

43. So you think making fun of black people is funny?

I think it's pretty ignorant.

[Union Scribe]

45. Trolls always think they're funny.

They are universally wrong.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

7. ha.ha. the old bait and switch tactic. worthy of the lounge.

Drugs seem to be the root cause of the problem in Lexington.

[DrDan]

8. could also be that there are so many guns

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. Guns are a tool, an inanimate object. There has to be human involvement,

a motivation. Drugs appear to be the motivating factor in Lexington. People need to be held accountable for their actions. There needs to be a thought process. People need to be educated and well informed and they need to have hope that they can have a better life.

No, it is too easy to blame the tool. The tool is only as good as the human using it.

This is my opinion. I know that you and I disagree on the basic philosophy.

To me, your idea is basically the same as giving the corporations individual (human) status. You want to apply that same logic to guns.
Individual rights are human responsibilities.

[mikeb302000]

19. Tuesday, you have to stop repeating the same old

nonsense. "The gun is a tool" is an overused platitude that doesn't stand up to inspection.

Nobody is blaming the tool. Only you guys accuse us of doing that. I blame the easy access to that particular "tool." And I blame you and your friends for your part in making that possible.

So, please stop with the silly attempts at diverting the discussion.

Plus, we're not talking about addressing the gun availability problem and NOT addressing the crime problem. That's your other favorite mischaracterization.

[jmg257]

21. Speaking of tools...

that's it...eom.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

42. I have as much right to post my opinion as you do. n/t

I intend to treat adults like adults.

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[ileus]

20. You know how it is with them, guns are corrupting devices. There would be no criminals without guns

[friendly_iconoclast]

25. Oh, absolutely. It's well known that Cain slew Abel with a Glock.

Probably one with a large-capacity magazine and a red-dot sight, but the details are sketchy...

[Starboard Tack]

27. If guns are tools, maybe they can be adapted to change toters light bulbs.

[PavePusher]

29. So, just like a hammer then...

I got my rapid-bulb-changing kit from a hammer-show unlicenced dealer without a background check!!

'Cause I knew the secret hand-shake and code words, y'see....

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[ileus]

30. They do make fine inverse defibs.

[Starboard Tack]

33. You could probably get your own radio show with stuff like that.

[rl6214]

37. Talk about tools

what are toters light bulbs? Is that a brand like GE

[Straw Man]

44. Oh, yes. Tools are infinitely adaptable.

I was just thinking that the other day when I was shaving with a bicycle pump.

[Starboard Tack]

54. Why does that not surprise me?

[PavePusher]

59. ROFL!!!!

I think we have a new DU-ism: "shaving with a bicycle pump".

I'm so gonna use that in many mysterious and arcane ways....

[Union Scribe]

47. Do all your policy arguments come from Simpsons episodes?

[Starboard Tack]

55. What's a Simpson episode?

Is it like when a famous footballer goes beserk and kills his ex-wife and her friend in the street?

[gejohnston]

61. no, not exactly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons

[Remmah2]

9. IBTL!

Two in one hour.

[ileus]

10. another gun vitimized by a drug user...

[Iktomiwicasa]

22. I'll bet the victimizer didn't

even use the proper lube.

[Kennah]

39. Unrecced, and not kidding

[Atypical Liberal]

41. Obvious trolling is obvious.

Your postings are now so weak you have to resort to trolling to get attention.

[Glassunion]

62. So full of

[montanto]

64. Ok, you made me look. That's the last time though.