Where do Gungeonites stand?

[FatSlob]

Take this test and find out. www.politicalcompass.org I have not taken it yet, I'll post my results. It is different in that it adds to the left-right spectrum. Check it out!

[Superfly]

1. My results...

Economic left/right -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -3.70

(Basically in the middle of the third quadrant)

[iverglas]

3. did it one more time

Seems I'm a tiny shade less "extremist" this time from what I recall of other times.

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

Gosh, too bad there weren't any questions about guns ... I'd have been right up there with Stalin.


Stalin and the gang:


Me:



Oops, me doesn't come out. Down from, and to the left of, Gandhi.

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[Superfly]

4. Didn't work for me either...

I'm pretty much smack-dab where Ghandi is. That's reassuring, I think....

[MrBenchley]

6. Wow...

I "only" ranked with Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama...

"Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28"

[texasdem99]

9. No wonder we don't play nice together

That's a joke, Iverglas. I take back the crack I made about levity on that other thread.

Don't tear my head off, please.

[slackmaster]

2. Kind of half-assed libertarian left

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05

I'm a little surprised I didn't score farther toward the libertarian end.

[iverglas]

5. nobody else?

C'mon, folks -- you can even fake it! And end up more left/libertarian than moi, moi being the gold standard at present.

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[Spoonman]

7. Here it is

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.87

[texasdem99]

8. Thanks, Spoon, I was getting self conscious

I actually didn't think I would come out only a little bit to the left of middle, but:


Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -1.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.38

Pretty much accurately corresponds to my views, I think.

[Liberal Classic]

10. A moderate anarchist? Ha!

I'm inbetween Ghandi and Friedman just to the right of the Y-axis.

[Narf]

11. Velllllly intellllesting...

Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

[iverglas]

12. my, my, my

Pending other self-revelations, I'm certainly expecting, at this point, not to hear too much more about the authoritarian tendencies of the gun-grabbers.

How illiberal would one have to be to score any lower than some of these (well, higher, i.e. higher up on the axis, closer to zero and to the bad positive numbers) on the "libertarian/authoritarian" axis??

I hate to think what vile authoritarian notions my fellow posters harbour in their heart of hearts and reveal only to quizzie websites.

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[slackmaster]

13. I find it very odd indeed and inconsistent

That someone who scored closer to the libertarian/anarchist end of the vertical axis than I did would be one of the most, er, outspoken advocates of gun control on this board. I thought libertarians and anarchists favored each individual living by his or her own rules, with a bare minimum of laws restricting choice.

I acknowledge that I have a hard time grokking other peoples' thought processes.

[iverglas]

14. yeah, eh?

I thought libertarians and anarchists favored each individual living by his or her own rules, with a bare minimum of laws restricting choice.

And I thought they supported other people's autonomy in matters that matter to them in their own lives, and not just their own ability to do whatever they hell they want about things that matter to themselves.

Guess we were both wrong. Actually, I know you are.

Both an economic dimension and a social dimension are important factors for a proper political analysis.

By adding the social dimension you can show that Stalin was an authoritarian leftist (ie the state is more important than the individual) and that Gandhi, believing in the supreme value of each individual, is a liberal leftist. You can also put Pinochet, who was prepared to sanction mass killing for the sake of the free market, on the far right as well as in a hardcore authoritarian position. On the non-socialist side you can distinguish someone like Milton Friedman, who is anti-state for fiscal rather than social reasons, from Hitler, who wanted to make the state stronger, even if he wiped out half of humanity in the process.

The chart also makes clear that, despite popular perceptions, the opposite of fascism is not communism but anarchism (ie liberal socialism), and that the opposite of communism ( i.e. an entirely state-planned economy) is neo-liberalism (i.e. extreme deregulated economy).

I have never said anything at all that would suggest that I believe that the state is more important than the individual. And believing in the supreme value of the individual certainly does *not* necessarily coincide with a belief that a "bare minimum of laws restricting choice" is always best.

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[slackmaster]

15. Let me clarify my remark to which you replied

I was not referring to you.

Sorry if I caused any confusion.

[FatSlob]

16. Back from a field trip

So now I can do it. Economic -.1 Socially -2.92

[NorthernSpy]

17. my numbers

Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

But I don't feel like an extremist -- not at all!

Too bad they didn't ask about guns. I'm sure I could have done better than an 8 on the libertarian index if they had.


:)


Mary

[iverglas]

20. yeah, well

I coulda done that too, if I'd wanted to be an extremist.

I guess that once I bought property, I didn't have quite so much of an aversion to it. ;)

What's a girl gonna do when she's represented thousands and thousands of tenants in the town against their thieving landlords and the thieving landlords all hate her guts, and her own thieving landlord evicts her so he can gentrify her dump of a duplex apartment, eh?

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[Wickerman]

18. Kick for a poorly responded to thread

come on guys, step right up, get yer political ideology read. Free of charge.

Watzamatter, everyone else not gonna post their results? This wouldn't be another one of those who ya gonna vote for polls, now is it? Geez, that was an embarrassment for this librul forum.

[Wickerman]

19. oh, btw

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

[MrSandman]

21. OK

Economic--<0.25>
Social--<-4.25>

The questions and my resullts change every 6 months.

[Columbia]

22. Here's mine

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

Strange enough, iverglas, we share the same score on the social axis... that calls for a beer! :toast:

[DavidMS]

23. My results...

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

About what I expected... Avoudly anti-authoritairian and economicaly progressive. I didn't expect to be that close to being a bomb-thrower!

I somehow think that the survey misses some of the finer political gradations, in that case I would be closer to the center.

[Romulus]

24. Here's another checking in

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

I have to say, some of those questions were pretty weird.

Example: When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

What political view is that supposed to measure?:shrug:

[iverglas]

26. my guess

"When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things."

That one has to do with authoritarian/libertarian: an unquestioning acceptance of authority would go with not thinking about one's troubles. The statement sounds like something yer average fundie xian would say, but not Gandhi. ;)

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

That one too, I'd think. *It* soulds like something Stalin would say -- but not Milton Friedman.


This "test" isn't quite like yer average Internet quizzie (like that "world's shortest political quiz" crap one). I think it's more along the lines of proper psychological testing tools (to the extent that there are such things) like the MMPI -- the questions themselves are tested to see whether they're measuring what they're meant to measure.

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[-..__...]

25. So...

Can I assume that there are more than a few closet Libertarians here since we're all below the bar? Or is that this survey is worded in a manner that would make others belive that? ;-)

FWIW....

Economic left/right -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -2.97

There were also very few questions where I "strongly" agreed or disagreed with. For myself, that seemed to be the questionable factor.