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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:51 PM
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Illinois Now the Only State Without a Concealed Carry Law
49 down....only one more to go!!!

Today, Illinois stands alone. It's the only state that does not allow its citizens to carry a concealed weapon.

That's because Wednesday, Wisconsin became the 49th state to join the concealed carry club when its state assembly passed a bill allowing its citizens to carry personal weapons.

Illinois' legislature was a few votes short of passing a concealed carry bill last month. It received 65 votes, six short of the 71 needed to pass the bill and override a promised veto from Governor Pat Quinn.

Now, the news from Wisconsin has gun rights supporters even more energized to make Illinois state number 50.

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http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-concealed-carry-illinois-guns-062311,0,6136469.story
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:54 PM
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1. Reallty?
TRY to get it in NYS without a very, very VALID reason; because I want to, isn't good enough.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:07 PM
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2. Miss the point much?
Anyway, NYS laws will change one day too.

Requiring government permission to exercise a Constitutional Right is vile stuff.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:11 PM
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3. You said only ONE state didn't have it
BUT you failed to acknowledge what are the requirements in other states for that. Will it change? Only if the MAJORITY of the people want it to. Or, imagine if their gave a party, and nobody went to it?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:50 AM
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15. "I" didn't say anything.
But the premise was that only one state now has no legal provision for concealed carry, nothing was said about any unConstitutional restrictions involved in said provisions.

Slow down and enjoy your coffee, the party is coming soon to a court-room near you.

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=152&Itemid=1

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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:18 PM
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4. NYS at least has it, even if you're not a big enough political contributor to get one
... or enough of a celebrity. They never seem to have any trouble getting permits. Hell, even Trump has a permit I read.

In Illinois there are zero options, that is the point of the post.

What are you doing to change the law to "Shall Issue" in NYS?
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:07 PM
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6. There is an option in Illinois
Get elected to the Chicago Board of Alderman. Like New York, those pigs who feed higher up the trough and are more equal than others have no problem getting a permit.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/51003.htm

Hell, Deputy Inspector Benjamin Petrofsky, the head of the NYPD License Division, arranged for Steven Tyler and Joe Perry to obtain concealed carry pistol licenses in return for alleged VIP treatment at an Aerosmith concert, including free tickets to the show, backstage access and a limo ride to the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Famers' post-concert party.

I don't believe the resident harridan from New York can sing that well!


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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:28 PM
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9. Have to love "pay to play" for constitutional rights (nt)
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:34 PM
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5.  Actually you don't always need a valid reason
just have campaign cash or be in the right country club
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:22 PM
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7. I think you may be confusing NY law with NYC law.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 07:23 PM by benEzra
An unrestricted NY PL400 license doesn't seem as impossible to obtain as you imply, though you'd certainly right about carry licenses in NYC (where money and political connections mean far, far more than your record and training do).

http://www.ocshooters.com/Hand/plnys.htm
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:43 PM
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8. Try again
We lived in Suffolk County for 27 years. My husband couldn't get it in NYC (lived there 24 years) OR Suffolk. No felonies and a Vet, but again, no valid reason for it.
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:29 PM
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10. Only because he was not wealthy enough
Perhaps he should have done something worthwhile in his life to qualify for his constitutional right. :sarcasm:

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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:03 PM
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11.  And thats the Glory of "may issue". n/t
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:07 PM
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12. Yet coke head, drunk, racist Don Imus had no problems getting CCW in NYC and I doubt
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 09:08 PM by gejohnston
and I doubt he has a greater "valid need."
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:24 PM
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14. NY is very much county-by-county for issue. Suffolk County is notorious.
The suburban belt surrounding NYC is generally very hostile to handgun permits. Still, your husband should have qualified for the "Sportsman" permit in Suffolk: it's not full-carry, and a valid reason is "target shooting and/or hunting."
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:58 PM
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17. Sounds like your local judge was on a power trip...
and it appears that he was going far, far beyond the legal requirements if he denied your husband a license.

As others have pointed out, that type of arbitrary denial of qualified applicants because they're not wealthy enough, important enough, connected enough, or a good enough storyteller is precisely why non-arbitrary issuance is so important, IMO.

And NYC is its own special case. Money and prestige appear to be the primary "qualifications" for licensure there.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:45 AM
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16. Simple
because in New York state, you are not good enough and your husband is not good enough.

It must be tremendously affirming to know the magisterial powers in Suffolk county think your lives are worthless.

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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:11 PM
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13. Loving it!
Now that the corrupt Daley machine is gone... CCW licensing is even more inevitable.

Ohh... and speaking as one behind enemy lines (MA), it's only a matter of time before the "may issue" house of cards collapses.

Don't give up the good fight!!!
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:00 PM
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18. I'd love for MA to rationalize its requirements on nonresident licenses while you're at it.
I looked into getting one a month or two ago, and I'm qualified, I'm just not wealthy enough.
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