Campus shooting

[MyrnaLoy]

Police are investigating a deadly shooting at San Jose State University. Campus police say the shooting happened Tuesday night in a university parking garage. Three people died, including the suspected gunman. Police believe the victims knew each other and say the incident was not random.

http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2011/05/11/three-dead-following-shooting-at-sjsu/

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. Get ready for the unrec squad.

You know it's coming.

[HankyDubs]

5. yeah we definitely need to unrec this post

because it presents a factual story without commentary.

[lawodevolution]

13. A shooting in a no gun zone again. But but the guns are banned there!

[HankyDubs]

14. lets unban them!!!

This is the first such incident at the school, according to the story.

The only way to make sure there isn't another incident like this is to arm all the students...possibly give them cowboy hats and ponies too just to be on the safe side.

[eqfan592]

16. I think there's a rational middle ground...

...given that the "Gun Free Zone" system has been an abysmal failure, it's clear a change is in order. But I think we can do without the ponies, and most will opt out of the hats as well if my guess is correct.

[Name removed]

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[friendly_iconoclast]

24. "It's a safe place, an example of on-campus bans working quite well"

Can we assume your other posts have the same level of factual accuracy?

[HankyDubs]

29. can we assume you have never been on this campus?

[friendly_iconoclast]

32. I have not. I'm sure Virginia Tech was thought to be a safe campus, as well.

These things can happen anywhere, and short of running colleges like medium-security prisons, incidents like these will continue

to happen occasionally.

[rl6214]

30. I live in Texas and don't wear a cowboy hat, just not my style

but I do carry a handgun every day.

[HankyDubs]

31. do you ride a pony?

[rl6214]

35. No, live in a normal city street, no horses within a few miles

I drive a jeep, guess you could call that a modern day horse.

[PavePusher]

37. Psssst! He's thinking of this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Jmo3yGrSg

[HankyDubs]

38. I'm actually thinking of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awskKWzjlhk&feature=related

That's what our college campuses should look like.

[PavePusher]

39. Odd, Utah has had this for several years.

I was just up there again (frequently for family and vacation time) a few weeks ago, and when I went through the UofU, I didn't see anyone pacing the common areas, fingering their ivory handled Colts.

Maybe they only do it at noon.... high, that is...

[YllwFvr]

40. The college kids are spending all the money they have

On tutition, room and board, and last but certainly not least, pizza and booze! They cant be expected to have pearl handled colts.



Pearl handled keltecs ... Maybe :)

[Katya Mullethov]

43. The cemetery scene is so iconic

This marricone is puttin' the jukebox on Morricone all morning


Wa-wa-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .

[friendly_iconoclast]

52. Where did you get that? That's hysterical! n/t

[Katya Mullethov]

54. An unapproved source .

For example

[friendly_iconoclast]

55. "A liberal is someone who will defend to the death your right to agree with them."

And sadly, it's an accurate description of some here.

I'll stick with 'progressive', thank you very much.

[MicaelS]

56. Day by Day cartoon by Chris Muir

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/

VERY RKBA.

[rl6214]

58. yeah, check the dozen or two college campuses that have CC

Let us know which ones have had shootouts already. Make sure you cite where you found them.


We'll wait.

[oneshooter]

45. I also live in Texas, and traffic at times is really bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_UwC9QNkA


Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[PavePusher]

47. And not one of them using their turn signals....!!! Eeeeep! n/t

[Katya Mullethov]

49. Plenty of open containers too .

hiccup

[shadowrider]

2. Without any more info, I'll go out on a limb and say at least

one of these people wasn't a student, and at least one had a criminal record. I'll go further and guess it had nothing to do with on-campus activity and was some sort of personal feud involving drugs.

I may be wrong, but we'll see.

[MyrnaLoy]

3. More info

Police do not believe the incident was a drive-by, gang-related nor robbery-motivated shooting, Harris said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/11/california.college.shooting/

[Remmah2]

51. So what you're really saying is the facts are not all in.

And until the facts are in the incomplete story supports the agenda of the anti-gun crew.

[MyrnaLoy]

4. And once again

You would be wrong. "Authorities did not release more information about the victims, including whether they were students, other than to say that they did not have criminal records. Investigators also would not detail the circumstances that led to the deaths."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/11/BAKB1JEONF.DTL&feed=rss.news

[one-eyed fat man]

12. Looks like the dump dinner didn't sit well with someone

Double murder suicide. Sure looks someone took being jilted pretty hard.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Wow. What are tonight's lottery numbers

while you're making wild guesses?

[Atypical Liberal]

26. Wrong limb :)

While you would usually be right, since most homicides are committed by people with extensive criminal histories, this does not seem to be the case here. None of the victims had prior criminal records.

It sounds like a love triangle gone bad.

[petronius]

34. A man and a woman dead inside a car, and the shooter dead elsewhere in the garage

Sounds like you're right - really sad event, I hope the families and friends of the victims are getting all possible support... :(

[virginia mountainman]

7. Just another failure of a gun free zone....nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Three are dead. That's enough.

Isn't it?

[virginia mountainman]

33. It should be...BUT..

Some people continue to insist that the best way to stay safe in public places, is to have "Gun Free" zones.

They have been an abstract failure. Because gun free, they certainly are not.

I don't think a sign,has ever stopped a mass shooting.

[pipoman]

42. I think your spell checker

is off a bit...'abstract failure' did you mean to write 'abject failure'?

[TheCowsCameHome]

46. Spell checker does nothing to correct improper use of words.

Not even on DU.

[virginia mountainman]

50. no that was me..LOL,

Been working a lot, maybe I should post BEFORE I leave for work, instead of posting when I get home from work..

[rl6214]

8. what's your point?

Were they gang bangers, drug dealers, student going out to party that just decided to shoot it out, CC holders.

[PavePusher]

10. So, what is the point here?

Is this somehow an argument that students of legal age to carry shouldn't be allowed to? Or that they should? Was the shooter a legal gun owner/carrier prior to his act?

There really does not seem to be enough info yet to make any sort of conclusions, or even suggestions.

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. Read post #2

Case closed.

[PavePusher]

15. I'm thinking he was refering to the shooter.... YMMV.

Still not getting the point. So far there is no evidence indicating that this has any bearing against campus carry.

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. Re-read it

He's all over the lot with his speculation.

[Euromutt]

23. "Case closed"? There's hardly ANY information been made public!

We don't know the ages of the persons involved, whether they were students, the sex of the two victims, whether the shooter had a CCW permit (highly unlikely in Santa Clara Co., I might note). We know hardly anything. So what the fuck do you mean, "case closed"?

[TheCowsCameHome]

27. He gave his expert assessment, based on no information whatsoever.

That's what the FUCK I mean.

[PavePusher]

36. No, he clearly stated he was making a WAG.

Perhaps you need to re-read, with an eye out for some irony and sarcasm.

[TheCowsCameHome]

44. It's a lame attempt, at best.

Nothing new there, though.

[Kurska]

17. It would be impossible for the shooter to be legally carrying, "Gun free zone" and all that.

[Euromutt]

21. Plus it's damn near impossible to get a CCW permit in Santa Clara County (n/t)

[Starboard Tack]

48. Why does it matter if the shooter was a legal owner/carrier?

The only fact we know is 3 died of gunshot wounds.

[PavePusher]

53. Well, the O.P. has pretty consistently presented an anti-carry stance.

It would only help her position if the shooter was a legal carrier.

If the shooter was an illegal carrier, it certainly wouldn't be helpful to her position.

[ileus]

18. Why are all these gunz killing people?

[jpak]

19. More evidence that guns are the answer

not

[Euromutt]

22. Without more information, it's hard to draw any conclusions

We don't know the identities of the victims and the shooter, their relationships to each other, why they were there at that hour. We only know what the police have said they believe not to be the case, but that leaves a rather wide field of possibilities (including the possibility that the police may turn out to be wrong).

[Atypical Liberal]

25. Unrecommended for lack of policy commentary.

[LAGC]

41. Ditto.

Anecdotal current events spam/flame-bait = auto-unrec.

[petronius]

57. A bit more detail:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/12/BA7H1JFC2Q.DTL&tsp=1

The two victims were students. The killer (not SJSU-affiliated) was the husband of the woman...