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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:19 PM
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The prohis will never admit it, but the great Starbucks boycott was a bust.
It's been a year, and despite all the wailing and pearl-clutching from the prohibitionists a year ago, nothing has changed.


Starbuck's has yet to change their stated position on guns one iota, and there have been no shootouts over the cocoa powder shakers

and the extra-long straws.


So the prohis get a -2, for lack of both predictive and political powers.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:22 PM
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1. That just reinforces the rule, that the best way to deal with a bully is
to stand up to them. Good on Starbucks not to bow to the bullies.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:36 PM
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2. I boycott Starbucks because it is overpriced. A great big ripoff.
And I love coffee,black,no sugar.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:44 PM
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3. I also drink it black, no sugar. Starbucks is no more expensive than anywhere else...
...unless you're drinking all those frothy, complicated drinks. But it is total b.s. that Starbucks is expensive for a plain old coffee. Of course, maybe you're comparing it to gas station coffee or a Mickey D's special offer.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:49 PM
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4. Dunkin Donuts.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 06:24 AM
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7. Same price as Starbucks.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 07:04 AM
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8. ...which similarly allows licensed carry, of course. (n/t)
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 07:26 AM
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9. Like you never see any one wearing a gun there....










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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:08 AM
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6. It may be pricey, but *over*priced?
For starters, Starbucks pays its growers--i.e. coffee farmers in places like Guatemala, Ethiopia and Indonesia--on average 23% over market price. Starbucks also provides comprehensive health insurance (and stock options) for all its employees who work 20 hours a week or more; even with the markup on what it pays its growers, five years ago, Starbucks was spending more on health coverage than on coffee beans.

Starbucks also contributes to a variety of charitable causes, such as Product (RED), which is a brand attached to certain products of which the proceeds go to the Global Fund to fight Aids, Tuberculosis and Malaria. As of last month, (RED) had raised $160 million.

So a large chunk of what you're paying for is allowing the company to treat its suppliers and employees decently, and support the more vulnerable both in America and abroad. Yes, that costs money, and that cost is passed to the consumer. If you can't afford to contribute to that by buying expensive coffee, that's understandable, but it's rather unfair to dismiss Starbucks' prices as "a great big ripoff."
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:21 PM
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13. Nice response. Thanks. I should be making my own coffee instead of buying it
outside the home but some habits are hard to break.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:53 PM
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5. I wouldn't change policy for the brady campaign or the KKK or any other hate group
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 09:54 PM by lawodevolution
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 09:05 AM
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10. I never developed a taste for coffee.
Beer either. They are just too bitter for my taste. I'd rather have a milk shake.

And to everyone who says, "Just add more X and you'll like it!" I figure if you have to dump a bunch of stuff in it to make it palatable maybe I should just drink something else.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:57 AM
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12. Same here..
I don't eat / drink anything that is 'an acquired taste' -- I figure that's biology telling you you're doing something wrong.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 02:41 AM
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21. Likewise. Beer particularly.
I never understood beer. It's too weak for you to easily get drunk, and it doesn't taste good. If I'm drinking recreationally, wine is better tasting and has beneficial side-effects--if I'm drinking to get a buzz, vodka is far more efficient.
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 04:48 AM
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22. I thought I was the only one!
Edited on Mon Jun-27-11 04:49 AM by Union Scribe
When I tell people I don't drink coffee they look at me like I just peeled off my human skin. People said things like, "You'll love it after drinking it a few times!" Well no, no I didn't, lol.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 10:57 AM
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25. I first drank coffee for pure survival
I was in the Navy and 20 hour work days underway were brutal. I eventually developed an appreciation for the taste.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:54 AM
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11. Starbucks got a lot of good publicity and many gun owners probably stopped ...
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 10:56 AM by spin
to buy their overpriced coffee merely to show support.

At the same time some criminals who are literate enough to read newspapers or watch TV news decided not to rob a Starbucks.

Late at night I would often stop at a Dunkin Donuts shop if I noticed a couple of police cars parked outside. Nothing discourages bad guys faster than armed people.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 05:25 PM
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14. I think this thread could use a kick.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 05:47 PM
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15. I go to several Starbucks all the time and have never seen an open carry fanatic.
I believe this unusual 'phenomena' only happens when the media is called, for the most part. Except maybe at a few in areas where Sarah Palin is considered a 'saint.'
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 05:53 PM
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16. Actually this came about not as a media event, but as a rebuttal to the called boycott
by the Brady bunch.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 07:25 PM
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18. I never saw a "fanatic" either...
...but I have seen somebody open carry in a Starbucks.
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 12:23 AM
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20. Isn't this kind of a long-winded post for you?
I'm just sayin'... .
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 07:20 PM
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17. Strange, I don't remember many recent shootouts at Starbucks. (n/t)
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 07:55 PM
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19. When was the last time...
the anti-2nd amendment Crusaders accomplished any victory of any significance?

:shrug: :rofl:
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 08:49 AM
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23. They're just waiting for a Supreme Court pick...
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 09:40 AM
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24. They stopped the Iron River on a dime
And started the 90% story right back up again like pushing a button . Uncle Fester got 24 hour coverage for shooting an instant rock star " and others " in Phoenix , and very few have yet heard of the new sport of gunwalking .

I wouldnt call it a victory yet , but that is no small feat .

Oh ! They got somebody to reply to the LoDo thread . THAT was a small victory . Do not make the mistake of confusing gibbering gibbons on message boards as true opponents .
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 01:40 PM
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26. Oops.
Oh ! They got somebody to reply to the LoDo thread . THAT was a small victory .

I'm afraid I fell for that one. Apparently "kick" on the Guns forum is pronounced "Wow!"
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