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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:09 PM
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Brady Campaign Framing 101: Would you believe...
...that Paul Helmke & Co. are now encouraging everyone to start referring to magazines holding 11 rounds or more as "assault clips?"

I kid you not. I won't bother to post links to BC sites here - just keep in mind they're actually trying this.

Reminds me of a Chumbawamba song:

Are you happy here in Theme Park, USA?
And do you sometimes wish that your life was Plug-and-Play?
And are the words to this song concise enough to follow?
Is your Smartfood simple enough to swallow?

We're dumbing down, dumb-de-dumb-dumb
Dumbing down, dumb-de-dumb-dumb

Are we only eating worms from a can just because we can?
And is Disneyland all we understand?
Will our history be written out in headlines?
Diana dolls, and miracles, and landmines?

We're dumbing down, dumb-de-dumb-dumb
Dumbing down, dumb-de-dumb-dumb
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:15 PM
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1. That's ridiculous. They should call them 'Nine Year-Old Girl Killing Clips.'
Or 'Democratic Congresswoman Retiring Clips.'

Or 'Federal Judge Erasers.'

Stoopid Brady Bunch.

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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:16 PM
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2. people removers?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:18 PM
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4. That's offensive. Using the word 'people' puts people in the equation.
:sarcasm:

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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:22 PM
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6. LOL
how about high capacity lead delivery system or HCLDS?
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:39 PM
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7. Tony Rumore already has that one
TROMIX !
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:17 PM
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3. +1
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:21 PM
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5. Well...
...I have a few 30-round magazines, and so far they haven't done a thing except sit there in the range bag. They haven't sprouted legs and tried to chase down this ol' Democrat yet.
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:03 PM
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12. Assault size ammunition feeding devices
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 11:24 PM
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15. +1
:yourock:
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:41 PM
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8. I agree, but the rules MUST apply to the police as well.
If the Brady Campaign states that these magazines are "assault clips" there is no need for a police officer to have them.

As they state on their website "The increased firepower of large capacity magazines also emboldens shooters to engage in mass attacks."

I don't need a bunch of police officers engaging in mass attacks.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:57 PM
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9. That's really stretching it....
Did you stock up on 30 round magazines at the last gun show?
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:01 PM
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11. Nope, I have not bought any magazines at all...
How is it stretching? What would be the problem if we limited the police to 10 round magazines for all of their firearms? They can still carry all of the firearms they want, just their magazine size has to be limited to 10.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:57 PM
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10. I firmly believe it's willful ignorence...
on their part.

Same thing when they shriek that shall issue licensing "forces" police chiefs to issue permits against their will.

I swear... they must lie awake at night coming up with this crap just to antagonize gun owners.

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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:04 PM
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13. They just give me better odds to hit the target.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 11:24 PM
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14. 11 rounds = assault clips
6 max

yup
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 12:28 AM
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16. For the police too? If so I'm game...
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:05 AM
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17. Six MAX?
These must be Assault Revolvers:



      ASSAULT REVOLVER

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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:58 AM
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19. Indeed.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:19 AM
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20. Math Fail 8 < 11
yup
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:26 AM
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21. You said six, you idiot. n/t
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:44 PM
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25. sexy I mean "assault" revolver
I need to get some
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:42 AM
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18. Any good reason?
Arbitrary dictate.

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:51 AM
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:43 PM
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24. I own 75 round drum magazines for my AK47
legal. yup.

Nothing you can do about it. yup.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 05:54 PM
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27. Thanks for making my job that much easier
We're going to win this.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:26 PM
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23. Does it surprise me?
NOPE

They are dishonest in everything they do.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:31 PM
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26. That move is ultimately good for the RKBA, IMO.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 10:34 PM by benEzra
It marginalizes the Brady Campaign even more by roping tens of millions more gun owners into the "under threat of ban" category, thereby increasing gun owner activism, and the media will repeat the term ad nauseam to ensure maximum exposure. It will also increase sales of full-size, full-capacity pistols (due to hedging and protest buying), will drive magazine sales through the roof by encouraging hedging, and makes the Brady Campaign look ignorant to boot. Ultimately good for our side, IMO, like the "assault weapon" fraud proved to be.

I suppose I'll probably go out and pick up some magazines myself at some point. Not because I think the BC has a chance of passing an over-10-round ban, but as a protest. They're inexpensive, and I'll certainly use them in matches regardless.
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