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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:02 PM
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Barbara Lipscomb: MM marcher, gun controller, murderer.
Million Mom Marcher Barbara Graham was convicted on nine counts of breaking seven different gun-control laws after she shot construction worker Kikko Smith.The other charges were: Carrying Pistol Without License, Unregistered Firearm, and Illegal Possession Of Ammunition. These are local Washington DC gun-control laws not federal laws.


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waterman Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:05 PM
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1. Is there a link to the story?
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:10 PM
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2. One here
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 06:11 PM by demsrule4life
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:17 PM
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5. links
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:37 PM
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12. only about a hundred
google barbra graham.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:16 PM
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3. RKBA "logic" or whatever it is...
"A grieving mother convicted of shooting a young man she blamed for her son's killing was sentenced to 10 years to life yesterday in an unusual case that laid bare the despair and rage of the city's gun battles. "

And this tragedy is supposed to an argument for fewer gun laws and more guns? Fucking weird. No wonder Mary Rosh seems like a real scientist to some folks.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:19 PM
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7. Classic False Dilemma or False Dichotomy
Recounting a tragedy like Ms. Lipscomb's need not be construed as an argument for or against gun laws or guns. It's simply an illustration of the hypocrisy so common in extremists of all stripes, MrBenchley.

Tell us again how the Catholic Church supports gay rights.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:16 PM
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4. She just didn't shoot the person...
she shot the wrong person. Oh, and perhaps I should mention she was also found in possession of a TEC-9.

And lets not forget Carl Rowan; Pulitzer Prize winning columnist, and staunch anti-gun advocate who shot a teenager in the wrist for trespassing in his yard... in Washington DC.

Of course Carl argued that he had the right to use any means needed to protect himself and his family.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:17 PM
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6. The Moral Of The Story
For every good example of a gun owner/gun rights supporter, there is a bad example.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:20 PM
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9. I see a different moral
Inside every zealot there is a hypocrite trying to get out.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:29 PM
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10. So can we let this whole thing...
...(posting bad/good examples of pro/anti gun control examples)
take a rest?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:30 PM
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11. I Hope So
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RUexperienced Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 06:19 PM
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8. Anti-gunners like this remind me of the pro-choice bumper sticker
I saw:

(paraphrased) "If you don't like guns, don't own one."

If we are really pro-choice, we should lay off the gun control and let the people choose.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 08:35 PM
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13. Once again it's the anti-RKBA crowd's motto
"Guns are bad for everyone - BUT ME!"

It's truly sad that, however much we RKBA proponents may disagree with their stance, those who truly oppose RKBA for whatever reason and practice their convictions are given a black eye such as this by so-called anti's.

On the bright side - LOOK MA! ANOTHER GUN GRABBER JUST GOT BITTEN IN THE ASS BY HER HYPROCRICY!
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:06 PM
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14. I seem to recall
someone named Eric Kaplan who was anti-gun and was convicted of ...I don't remember what it was. He fired a gun towards his political opponents house and hit the guys wife some time in the mid 90's if I remember right.


I guess a google search is in order.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:20 PM
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15. Dammit, Beev!
No linkee, no postee. When are you ever gonna learn?
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:32 AM
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16. Ok ya got me...
Check it out, I'm using google. :evilgrin:

http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/89445/89445jur2.pdf


It appears to be a juristictional brief haveing to do with the 5th circut court of appeals. I will assume thats not a biased right wing document.There are also links to pro-gun sites that say he did it too.

I found it in this search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Eric+Kaplan%22++%22Robert+Starks%22&btnG=Google+Search

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