Concealed Carry Gains Support in Illinois

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http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/05_18/concealed_carry_gains_support_in_illinois_8824.php

Concealed Carry Gains Support in Illinois
Tuesday, May 18, 2010

It seems concealed carry is slowly making progress in Illinois.

A proposal is inching its way through the Illinois state legislature.

House Bill 5221, also known as the Family and Personal Protection Act, would allow State Police to issue permits to carry concealed firearms to persons at least 21 years of age, authorize the county sheriff to evaluate the application and accompanying material, require applicants to have completed specified training requirements.

The legislation would also require extensive background checks and mental evaluations for each applicant seeking a permit. There would be registration fees and gun owners would be required to attend training courses.

While 48 state current allow carry and conceal, both Wisconsin and Illinois have remained steadfastly opposed.

Earlier this month, an Illinois House committee pushed through three pieces of gun legislation, sending them to the full House for consideration. If approved, the package of laws would allow gun owners to have a proper, portable gun carrying case in which to transport their weapon. That said, concealed carry remains off the table for now.

Among those supporting the measure, is the Illinois Sheriff’s Association, which has endorsed carry and concealed legislation.

Opponents argue the opposite and contend that even with safeguards in place, there simply is no reason for allowing more guns in public. Under the proposed legislation, guns would not be allowed in churches, schools, airports, stadiums and events where large crowds gather.

Sooner or later, they will join the rest of the country and have shall-issue CC.

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[one-eyed fat man]

2. Illinois demographics hard to overcome

The problem is the Chicago and Cook county skew Illinois politics. That cesspool of endemic corruption so dominates Illinois gun law (among others)that any sane approach to concealed carry is impossible. An 1872 state law allows Chicago aldermen and Mayor to carry guns while absolutely denying that right to lesser mortals.

A few examples of the shameless hypocrisy in Mayor Daley's Gun Ban arguments:

Michael Scott, King Richard II's former right hand man, and some say closest confidant, committed suicide earlier this year with an "illegal unregistered handgun". Michael Scott bailed out on life when the heat got too hot about questionable expenditures while Chicago School Board president. Questions also arose about other financial deals. Of course King Richard II couldn't believe it was a suicide and had to publicly humiliate his coroner. Hypocrisy? You Betcha!

Ricky Hendon in 1994 had an "unregistered" handgun stolen from his home during a burglary. Why unregistered if aldermen are permitted to carry a concealed weapon? Who knows. The arrogant ass wasn't even contrite. "I have a right to protect myself" he declared at the time. Of course, Chicago's Finest (CPD) didn't bother to file charges.
Hypocrisy? You betcha!

U.S. Senator Roland 'Snake Belly" Burris, while running for Governor in 1994, admitted he owned a handgun but a year earlier endorsed a nationwide ban on handguns.
Hypocrisy? You Betcha!

Alderman Dorothy "the Hat" Tillman, in 1991, pulled out a handgun and waved it around when a neighborhood meeting got out of hand.
Hypocrisy? You Betcha!

Alderman Arenda Troutman, one of our latest guests of the federal penal system, was heard on her incriminating tapes saying that "most alderman, most politicians, are ho's".
Finally some truth!

The fact of the matter is, every time King Richard II gets up on his bully pulpit he is running a scam on the residents of Chicago! Decrying the ills of guns is just blatant bullshit. If Mayor Daley really believed in his ordinance he would outlaw the council members from packing heat first. Why is it not okay for residents to protect themselves when the aldermen are? Are the aldermen at such an extreme risk? If yes, from whom? The residents? No, Can't Be! They are not allowed to pack heat. So what are the aldermen protecting themselves from? Each other? Is it because some of their shady deals might go wrong? Too many questions!

[jaxx]

3. Thanks for the reminder.

I'll contact my reps today and tell them NO concealed carry in Illinois. It's not like they haven't heard from me about this before.

[benEzra]

4. No concealed carry for anybody, or just no carry for peons?

If you're going to take an anti-CCW position, it'd be consistent to revoke CCW privileges for Daley and his cronies. Would be nice to make his bodyguards abide by the gun restrictions Daley supports for others, too.

[DonP]

5. Now, now, he obviously doesn't mind his masters and betters being armed

To paraphrase John Adams - "His chains rest lightly on him"

But there were over 7,000 of us in Springfield for I-GOLD this year, twice the count from last year and the last time the gun control people even showed up, they had less than 100 people bused down from Chicago and Cook County. The crooked tail that wags the Illinois dog, for now anyway.

In another month or so Daley's gun ban will be history and eventually he'll be replaced and his machine will fall apart as the different factions he's paid off squabble over the empire.

Then our downstate Dems will actually get a CCW law passed like they have been trying to do for a decade, like the 48 other states. Unless the cheese heads beat us to it.

[proteus_lives]

6. Why?

Just curious on why you think only criminals should be allowed to carry guns.

[jazzhound]

7. I suppose it hasn't occurred to you that the type of people that you need

to be worried about (vis a vis carrying guns) are people that don't pay attention to laws of any type.

Oh yeah........right. I I keep forgetting.

A CC permit holder with no history of violence will one day "snap".



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9. Why? It isn't causing a problem in the 48 states that allow it. N/T

[PavePusher]

10. 'Cause it causes so many problems in other states. Right? n/t

[jeepnstein]

8. Here's to sooner rather than later!

Despite all they hysterical noise from the anti-gun crowd, legal concealed carry doesn't really cause problems. There's no reason why normal law-abiding citizens shouldn't be given the option of going armed if they so choose. The normal law-abiding folks in this country aren't the problem.