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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:12 PM
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“Daley: Turn in your gun, get $75” as alternative to calling in the militia.
Daley: Turn in your gun, get $75
Holding up an assault weapon surrendered for cash, Mayor Daley urged Chicagoans today to turn in their weapons on May 8 to stop the violence that prompted two state lawmakers to suggest bringing in the National Guard.

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Police Superintendent Jody Weis noted that Chicago Police officers confiscated more weapons over the last year than New York and Los Angeles combined. He urged Chicagoans to turn them in voluntarily.

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“I’m asking you to go out to those young men on the corners because they’re not getting this message. . . . We’re getting the message, but they’re not and they’re the shooters,” Latiker said.

“It’s not gonna be easy. That’s all they think they have. But I would like to talk to them anyway to see if we can get them to turn their guns in and realize that they’re stopping {residents of}of our communities from sitting on their porches.”
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:19 PM
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1. Why doesn't he just ban gun ownership and carry in his city?
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 04:34 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
:shrug:
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:34 PM
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3. Chicago already has a handgun ban
It's been challenged and the SCOTUS should be handing down a decision this summer (McDonald v. Chicago).

Buy back programs don't reduce crime. Criminals who use guns aren't likely to turn them in for a fraction of their worth.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:37 PM
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6. It already is banned.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:40 PM
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12. *snort* ;-) n/t
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:24 PM
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2. So...
The city ends up paying for a bunch of junk that probably wouldn't have seen any use on the streets?

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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:35 PM
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4. Not necessarily true....many turn them in to keep those who break
into their homes from getting their hands on them...
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:07 PM
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9. If I was genuinely concerned about intruders and people breaking into my house...
I'd probably want to hold onto some guns. They might come in handy.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:38 PM
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19. Actually, the city doesn't pay. The buy-back program relies on corporate sponsorship. N/T
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:37 PM
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5. Paying thugs to safely dispose of murder weapons, what a novel idea.
No questions asked? Fantastic idea. Shot someone last week? Turn it in to the police and get 75$ to boot. Ain't America grand?
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:02 PM
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7. $75?
Why would you do that when you can sell it to a gang-banger for way more?

Why does it seem that politicians, as a class, have NO concept of human motivation?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:16 PM
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10. I've read that a $100 dollar handgun will sell for $600 on the street in NYC ...
why get only $75?
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 07:12 PM
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14. Because that way, the evidence doesn't get destroyed
You flog the gun to some thug, it's more than likely to wind up in the hands of the police sooner or later, and they might connect it to whatever you did with it, and the thug might be all too willing to roll over on you in exchange for a reduced charges or sentence. But if you hand it in at a "buy-back," it disappears into the smelter, and it's guaranteed never to be traced back to you.
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:08 AM
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22. Whoa, good catch.
I made the mistake of thinking that a politician's stated goal is actually what he was attempting to accomplish.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:25 AM
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21. They also have no concept of economics...
but everyone here knew that already. Sigh...
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:03 PM
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8. Daley is desperate....
He has totally failed to reduce crime in his city because of his inability to govern, his personal level of corruption or the level of corruption of the other city officials. (Or all three.)

Hopefully, his time in office will soon come to an end and his replacement will be far more competent and honest.

One thing that may drop crime in his city is some reasonable gun laws that allow honest citizens to own firearms for self defense. If the Supreme Court overturns Chicago's strict ban on firearms in the home, I expect Daley will impose so many hurdles to owning a firearm that few will be able to afford the time, effort and expense to get one.

He can't allow firearms in the hands of honest citizens to reduce the crime rate. His efforts at banning guns would be shown to be misguided and foolish. His ego will not allow that.

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tech9413 Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:23 PM
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11. Not gonna happen here
I've got three guns in the house. 1943 Walther P38, 1942 Czech VZ 24, and a late 30's Remington 22 LR. All three are great guns and I wouldn't give them up for less than $500 even if I don't use them much.

I'll take the line from Heston "You can have them when you pry them from my cold dead hands".
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:52 PM
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13. He's going to get his ass handed to him on a platter when McDonald v. Chicago is decided by SCOTUS
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:15 AM
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23. Though not entirely accurate..
I can't wait for Otis McDonald to go down in history as the man who beat Daley.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 07:31 PM
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15. "Holding up an assault weapon surrendered for cash" - note the lack of detail
It doesn't say where it was turned in, when or for how much money, or specify the model. For all we know, it's a pimped-out Ruger 10/22, or an Intratec AB-10 that was handed in over a decade ago. It's a safe bet it was selected because it's the most scary-looking gun Daley had available to impress the news media, not because it's in any way representative of the kind of guns that are typically handed in.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:04 PM
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16. In related news..
City gun turn-in program in need of cash

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2010/04/city-gun-turnin-program-in-need-of-cash.html

Mayor Richard Daley today urged Chicagoans to turn in firearms in exchange for a prepaid credit card, but the city is going to have to pass the hat to come up with enough money to cover the yearly program.

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Two years ago, $130,000 was raised for the annual drive. Last year, it was down to $69,000 in donations and the mayor said the poor economy continues to drive down donations this year. About $46,000 has been raised so far this year for the program, with more than 150 businesses contributing, according to mayoral spokesman Lance Lewis.


Well at least the $$ isn't coming from the city's beleaguered coffers.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:30 PM
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17. “I’m asking you to go out to those young men on the corners" Yeah lets see HIM
go up to a group of gang bangers BY HIMSELF and tell them the error of their was and that they need to turn in their guns. See what happens. . .
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:37 PM
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18. Another PR stunt by Daley.
He must be afraid of the upcoming SCOTUS ruling.

Few people will turn in a gun they can sell for hundreds for only $75. Criminals are stupid, but not that stupid. The ones who will turn it in are not the one that would use the gun for crime. All he is going to get will be junk guns.

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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:43 PM
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20. Or non-criminal relatives / friends of criminals..
.. will turn in 'hot' guns on behalf of the criminals, thereby removing a piece of evidence of a crime, never to be seen again.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 08:21 AM
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25. Yeah, what a deal!
Mr. Thug.

The city of Chicago will pay you $75 for the firearm evidence of your recent murder and will permenantly dispose of it for you.

Pleadingly,
Mayor Daley
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:41 AM
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24. This is still the same police chief who cut and run.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2142373,weiss-cut-run-says-retired-cop-040610.article

You gotta love Chicago and another sterling example of its endemic corruption. Gunfire breaks out in a high crime neighborhood during a photo op by Police Superintendent Jody Weiss (a career bureaucrat who never spent a day as a real cop) and his response is to say, "I gotta go now......" as he ducks into his armored SUV and speeds off. The reporter and her cameraman naively assume who is responding to a call for back-up and when they arrive on the scene, the cops who called are finishing up an "Fearless Leader" is nowhere to be seen. A paper-shuffling, pencil-pushing, posing, pipsqueak pretending to be a policeman!

http://www.youtube.com/v/F2VO97Po51c&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 09:05 AM
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26. What a bargain!
Even the cheapest AK-47 variants are selling for $500+.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:31 PM
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27. How much for a sledge hammer ?

The Chinese have had 3 school attacks in as many days from what I gather . Something must be done immediately. I can picture a Chinese version of mayor Daley in front of a microcosmos of microphones at a press conference holding up a Made in America hammer, announcing his govt financed hammer buy back program, 1000 yuan for a claw hammer, 500 for a ball pene,but only 10 yuan for a nerf foam hammer . (If you replace all of the parts of a Nerf hammer with those of a regular hammer they are can become just as deadly a weapon .)



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5 kindergarten students hurt in hammer attack, 3rd assault on a Chinese school in 3 days



BEIJING (AP) — A farmer attacked kindergarten students with a hammer, injuring five, before burning himself to death Friday in China's third such assault in as many days and prompting the government to demand stricter school security nationwide.

Wang Yonglai used a motorcycle to break down the gate of the Shangzhuang Primary School in the eastern city of Weifang and struck a teacher who tried to block him before hitting students with the hammer, the official Xinhua News Agency said.

Wang then grabbed two children before pouring gasoline over his body and setting fire to himself. Teachers were able to pull the children away to safety, but Wang died. None of the five injured students had life-threatening injuries, Xinhua said.

The attack was confirmed by an employee at the Weifang Public Security information office. But the motive for Wang's rampage was unclear. Xinhua described him only as a local farmer.
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